Upgrading from i7 4770k

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#1 com2006
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I’m thinking of either going AMD with the 3700x or Intel with the 10600k, what would you think is the best option? the system will be used for gaming alone

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@com2006 said:

I’m thinking of either going AMD with the 3700x or Intel with the 10600k, what would you think is the best option? the system will be used for gaming alone

10600K is the better CPU

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#3  Edited By rmpumper
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No point in upgrading for gaming, unless you'll be getting something like a 3080 along with the new CPU or you are still gaming at 1080p.

I have upgraded from 4.2GHz 4770K to 3900X with 3600CL16 RAM and see the same exact FPS in games running at 1440p high/ultra settings with 1070Ti, because the GPU is the bottleneck at that resolution. GN's benchmarks show that the 3900X is supposed to be 25-50% faster than the 4770K for gaming, but the tests were done at 1080p medium settings so the numbers are irrelevant in the real world - https://youtu.be/j9HV9V5nzOc.

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#4 com2006
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I’m gaming at 1440p on a 5700xt, but will be looking to upgrade the card as well once things get back to normal

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Might as well wait then, unless you really need an nvme or something other that the Z87 does not support.

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#6  Edited By 04dcarraher
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@rmpumper said:

No point in upgrading for gaming, unless you'll be getting something like a 3080 along with the new CPU or you are still gaming at 1080p.

I have upgraded from 4.2GHz 4770K to 3900X with 3600CL16 RAM and see the same exact FPS in games running at 1440p high/ultra settings with 1070Ti, because the GPU is the bottleneck at that resolution. GN's benchmarks show that the 3900X is supposed to be 25-50% faster than the 4770K for gaming, but the tests were done at 1080p medium settings so the numbers are irrelevant in the real world - https://youtu.be/j9HV9V5nzOc.

yea totally depends on the game and how its multithreaded and how stressful it is for the cpu along with feeding gpu if it can keep up. If a game only uses upto 8 threads and does not max out the cpu sure that may be the case. But most of the newer games coming out that four core 8 thread cpu is going going to hold back the system in general.

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What's wrong with your current system? Unhappy with performance?

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Ryzen 5000 series makes more sense than either 3700X or 10600K IMO. If you can find a CPU at a reasonable price. It gives you the best gaming performance and support for PCI-E 4th gen.

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#9  Edited By com2006
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@PfizersaurusRex: yes it does look like I’m going to wait and see if these prices come down, because I can’t get the graphics card I want at the moment anyway. I’m happy to wait it out for now and I do achieve well over 60fps on high/ultra @ 1440p so not much of a rush to be honest. Guess like some have said I wouldn’t gain much upgrading the cpu motherboard and ram now.

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@com2006 said:

@PfizersaurusRex: yes it does look like I’m going to wait and see if these prices come down, because I can’t get the graphics card I want at the moment anyway. I’m happy to wait it out for now and I do achieve well over 60fps on high/ultra @ 1440p so not much of a rush to be honest. Guess like some have said I wouldn’t gain much upgrading the cpu motherboard and ram now.

There's 6 gen difference between the two CPUs from what you currently own and the one you were thinking to upgrade.

There's 20% performance gain on gaming, including heavy duty stuff like editing or even using some daily desktop apps like browsing etc.

if you want to wait for lower prices or 11th gen Intel / Ryzen 5000 series and you're happy with the performance of your current settings fps then it's all good.

I'm still rocking GTX970 with i5 4690 (1080p) but I might need an upgrade myself soon (damn Cyberpunk)

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@gerygo: Surely there is more than 20% difference? Clock speed increase alone is almost 20% from stock to stock. Another 2 cores, 4 threads, support for faster RAM.

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@horgen: Not all games use all the cores properly, mostly open world and RTS games use all the cores.

I think the workstation benches show proper difference - most heavy duty tasks such editing do take advantage of more cores.

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@gerygo said:

@horgen: Not all games use all the cores properly, mostly open world and RTS games use all the cores.

I think the workstation benches show proper difference - most heavy duty tasks such editing do take advantage of more cores.

Yeah, but I was thinking that increased clock speed and improved IPC alone would make 20% difference. At least with faster RAM that also helps CPU.

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@horgen said:
@gerygo said:

@horgen: Not all games use all the cores properly, mostly open world and RTS games use all the cores.

I think the workstation benches show proper difference - most heavy duty tasks such editing do take advantage of more cores.

Yeah, but I was thinking that increased clock speed and improved IPC alone would make 20% difference. At least with faster RAM that also helps CPU.

It does, that's exactly what I'm saying - because of the fact that most games sadly still do not utilize all cores given to benefit from is the reason why it's only 20% increase in performance solely based on better architecture and clock speeds.