Fallout 4 free update is a nice change of pace....

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#1  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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Greetings.... For those of you unaware, Bethesda is releasing a pretty nice update to fallout 4 that will modernize the game performance, contain fixes and add content... For free.

https://bethesda.net/en/article/4s2bXQEbpcrsdCZhUYLHAi/fallout-4-is-getting-free-updates

I want to being this up because we live in a remake world where lesser companies would've tried cashing in on the TV shows success with a cash grab at a remaster/remake. To update the game to modern platforms and giving away content for nothing is something that we as gamers should take off our system wars hats and praise because it is a pro gamer move.... Bethesda likely knew there would be increased interest in the franchise with the Amazon show being in the chute. They didn't reach for your wallet the way lesser companies would... They are giving it to us for free.

As an independent minded gamer who roots for positive trends in our hobby I applaud this move. Especially in the face of lesser developers tactics to cash in whenever possible.

Now, in a world where I truly do not believe we need to remake video games, there are a few that would benefit.... The original Fallout being one of them. Those games are dated as eff and if they were remade in today's pallet of gameplay it would be a worthy project.... Gameplay has advanced faaaar beyond those games so again... Worthy project.

What do you think system wars...? Does Bethesda giving away free content and modern upgrades make smile? Do you think they should've charged for this content the way lesser companies do? Lastly.... Are you jumping back in for newly improved fallout 4?

What is a lesser company? 😜

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at this point this 2015 game is get getting more new content than Starfield😄

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#3  Edited By SecretPolice  Online
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Thank you, Uncle Phil. ;o

Oh and also, GOAT Starfield...

lol :P

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Might need to pick up fallout 4 played it years ago on PS4 but didn't get far new Vegas is still my favourite.

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PSA...

Amazeballz. lol :P

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/four-fallout-games-enter-europes-top-10-charts-following-the-shows-release/1100-6522784/

Four Fallout Games Enter Europe's Top 10 Charts Following The Show's Release

Have you bought a Fallout game because of the show?

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Fallout 4 gamers watching all their mods get destroyed:

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Say thank you to phil cows.....Sony would have charged you.and that saved you having to look like a f€%king sap by defending the cost 👍

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#8  Edited By GirlUSoCrazy
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Maybe if they charged for putting out fixes and patches, gamers would have been pissed. Things like wide-screen support and quest fixes are still coming very late. It is almost 10 years later and there are still broken quests.

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I certainly like free. Am looking forward to jumping back into the game to check out the updates and new content.

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I would rather see Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas getting remasters.

I have both games, hardly played them. I tried booting up FNV vanilla but that shit was unplayable.

Is it easy to mod them to support at least 120 fps, relatively modern UI and decent graphics?

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I downloaded Fallout 4 again on my PC and started up Fallout 76 on PS5. I forgot just how entertaining these games are... altho Fallout 4 crashed during the opening section which made me lol.

Not expecting a huge upgrade though. I mean it is Bethesda... hopefully it's a stable release. lol (not likely)

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Let's not get too wrapped up in the Fallout hype and forget that 4 kinda sucked. Then they followed up with Fallout 76; one of many high profile failures in gaming we've become accustomed to. Lies about preorder items, shoddy half-assed physical bag/booze bottle. And worst of all, a completely broken, lie of a game. How quickly you seem to forget.

Now I don't even know what's in that update, but I highly doubt it's enough to make me forget all the crap they've pulled over the last decade. They should just make great games that are worth the money.

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I really enjoyed Fallout 4 when it first came out. Bought all the dlc as well. That was on the Xbox One too so it wasn’t like had the options for mods like the PC version had.

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@dimebag667 said:

Let's not get too wrapped up in the Fallout hype and forget that 4 kinda sucked. Then they followed up with Fallout 76; one of many high profile failures in gaming we've become accustomed to. Lies about preorder items, shoddy half-assed physical bag/booze bottle. And worst of all, a completely broken, lie of a game. How quickly you seem to forget.

Now I don't even know what's in that update, but I highly doubt it's enough to make me forget all the crap they've pulled over the last decade. They should just make great games that are worth the money.

Man, you sure know how to hold a grudge! I thoroughly enjoyed fallout 4 despite it not being a monumental step forward. Fallout 76 was a disaster launch and likely remained that way a while, but those who waited are not playing that game anymore and have no experience with it... 76 seems super inviting to me.

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#15  Edited By GirlUSoCrazy
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@Stevo_the_gamer: I think it is still the same models/textures/engine/everything so it is not really an upgrade, just resuming support of the original game. Otherwise they would probably charge for it like Skyrim Anniversary.

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@TheEroica: Haha, you're not wrong 😂. If I get burned, I don't forget. But don't we need that? If bad actors are allowed to continue their grift without consequences, nothing will get better.

I'm also pissed at myself for stopping my workout regimen for that game. I was so excited because of my love for 3 that I said I was gonna give all my attention to 4. Fully saturate myself in that world and have a wonderful experience. That did not pan out. I was severely disappointed with the game, and haven't really worked out since. Now there's no reason why I couldn't start up again, but I just haven't. And I blame Bethesda 😂.

As far as 76 goes, I'm sure it's gotten better, but they burned their chance with me.

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#17  Edited By mrbojangles25
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Far be it from me to look a gift horse in the mouth, but is anyone else a little upset it's taken them 10+ years to release a fix for a game just because of a damn show?

In an ideal world, the fixes would have either been out, or been coming out, until the game was stable. I understand development has to stop at some point but support needs to continue.

In either case, happy to see this game getting support after release. Hopefully it doesn't break the mod community.

@Stevo_the_gamer said:

I downloaded Fallout 4 again on my PC and started up Fallout 76 on PS5. I forgot just how entertaining these games are... altho Fallout 4 crashed during the opening section which made me lol.

Not expecting a huge upgrade though. I mean it is Bethesda... hopefully it's a stable release. lol (not likely)

Yeah Fallout 4 crashed on me as well last week after reinstalling it. This AFTER I decided to play it vanilla with no mods (I've had issues with mods before but that's a "grain of salt" type situation; I expect a vanilla game to work, though).

I think I will wait for the update haha.

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It's a nice move. They should had ready along with the show. I will check it out.

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Yep gonna destroy the institute this time and blow shit up!

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Nah, been there done that.

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I wonder if Microsoft will make another studio develop fallout 5. I mean the main Bethesta studio will be developing the new elder scrolls for at least 5 years. If they want a new fallout relatively soon, they need to make someone else develop it.

Give it to obsidian. They are also under Microsoft and have did a great job with new Vegas.

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#22  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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@nirgal said:

I wonder if Microsoft will make another studio develop fallout 5. I mean the main Bethesta studio will be developing the new elder scrolls for at least 5 years. If they want a new fallout relatively soon, they need to make someone else develop it.

Give it to obsidian. They are also under Microsoft and have did a great job with new Vegas.

Definitely... When obsidian finishes outer worlds 2 id love to see a follow up tk new Vegas.... Doesn't have tk be a direct follow up either. Would just love for them to get another crack at the franchise.

10 years before the next fallout game seems helllllla long.

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I wonder how this compares to the FO4 unofficial patch.

The story and characters in FO4 are some of the worst ever concieved in a video game, but the world is fun to explore and the settlements are fun to build.

I'd recommend the War of The Commonwealth mod.

Oh and the Silent Protaganist mod. Game is basically unplayable without that.

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fallout 4 felt like a 360/ps3 gen game, more of an expansion to f3 with a base building component tacked on. not anything comparable to a morrowind to oblivion, or an oblivion to skyrim-type evolutionary leap.

was cool that bethesda announced it mid 2015 and then released it a few months later as opposed to the cringeworthy elder scrolls 5 announcement all the way back in e3 2018 given that it's 2024 and it's likely still years away, but regardless, the game was average at best, and i liked f3.

they're giving it away for free because they couldn't charge for it. it's just an update for a 8 year old game that's on gamepass, not a full remake like tlou.

@nirgal said:

I wonder if Microsoft will make another studio develop fallout 5. I mean the main Bethesta studio will be developing the new elder scrolls for at least 5 years. If they want a new fallout relatively soon, they need to make someone else develop it.

Give it to obsidian. They are also under Microsoft and have did a great job with new Vegas.

yeah this is the interesting question. will ms give it to obsidian to make something new to support the tv show, is it already underway, have they missed the opportunity, or would it even be financially viable given that it'll need to go on gamepass?

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#25  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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@Macutchi: the sentiment here is that we didn't need a last of us remake after a last of us remastered..... To do a low key upgrade that adds content and modern performance and charge nothing for it is EXACTLY what I want in the face of a company like naughty dog coming at me with more paid versions of their game that were both unnecessary and also left developers from developing new content at naughty dog.

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@TheEroica: well yeah, that goes without saying. my point was its fallout 4, it's 8-9 years old, it felt like a lazy main series instalment back in 2015, and it's timed to coincide with the prime show, without that i doubt we'd get it, so hearing there's a free upgrade doesn't do much for me now

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They should put out an update to New Vegas so that modern gamers can play that game without the hassle of installing mods, but that would mean exposing players to best Fallout game ever made, one that Bethesda didn’t make that makes their games look bad.

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I could never get into Fallout 4(PS4) back when it released. Hopefully with the update and PS5 version, I can play the game again. I tried playing a bit of the game but something felt off

about the gameplay.

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#29  Edited By hardwenzen  Online
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So much talk about Fallout as of late i am tired of hearing it, and its in my top 3 fav franchises... Talk about a brand new quality Fallout game with quality writing that doesn't exist, not a god damn show or the shitty fallout 4 wtf.

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Now all it takes is a tv show to make people like your game franchise again.

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@hardwenzen said:

So much talk about Fallout as of late i am tired of hearing it, and its in my top 3 fav franchises... Talk about a brand new quality Fallout game with quality writing that doesn't exist, not a god damn show or the shitty fallout 4 wtf.

It's a blip in time Hardy... Rude the wave.... We're all still waiting ten years for the next game.

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@Willy105 said:

They should put out an update to New Vegas so that modern gamers can play that game without the hassle of installing mods, but that would mean exposing players to best Fallout game ever made, one that Bethesda didn’t make that makes their games look bad.

Microsoft owns both Bethesda and Obsidian.... I agree with everything you said. In fact, my only experience with new Vegas was a playthrough at launch when it played like doodoo.... Quests were broken too.... If I'm Microsoft I'm not allowing the franchise to stay dormant for ten more years.... Let obsidian make one!

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@TheEroica said:
@hardwenzen said:

So much talk about Fallout as of late i am tired of hearing it, and its in my top 3 fav franchises... Talk about a brand new quality Fallout game with quality writing that doesn't exist, not a god damn show or the shitty fallout 4 wtf.

It's a blip in time Hardy... Rude the wave.... We're all still waiting ten years for the next game.

Not only are we waiting 10 years for the next game, but MS will make a massive mistake by allowing Todd and his clueless team develop the game instead of letting Obsidian doing the job.

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@hardwenzen said:
@TheEroica said:
@hardwenzen said:

So much talk about Fallout as of late i am tired of hearing it, and its in my top 3 fav franchises... Talk about a brand new quality Fallout game with quality writing that doesn't exist, not a god damn show or the shitty fallout 4 wtf.

It's a blip in time Hardy... Rude the wave.... We're all still waiting ten years for the next game.

Not only are we waiting 10 years for the next game, but MS will make a massive mistake by allowing Todd and his clueless team develop the game instead of letting Obsidian doing the job.

Would be wise of Microsoft to give obsidian another crack at it.... Obsidian at the time of new Vegas had developers from Black Isle Studios... Is that still the case?

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@TheEroica said:
@hardwenzen said:
@TheEroica said:
@hardwenzen said:

So much talk about Fallout as of late i am tired of hearing it, and its in my top 3 fav franchises... Talk about a brand new quality Fallout game with quality writing that doesn't exist, not a god damn show or the shitty fallout 4 wtf.

It's a blip in time Hardy... Rude the wave.... We're all still waiting ten years for the next game.

Not only are we waiting 10 years for the next game, but MS will make a massive mistake by allowing Todd and his clueless team develop the game instead of letting Obsidian doing the job.

Would be wise of Microsoft to give obsidian another crack at it.... Obsidian at the time of new Vegas had developers from Black Isle Studios... Is that still the case?

They lost everyone as far as i am aware, but i would still like to see them develop a new fallout game to see the difference in writing compared to NV. I guess we'll see what they're capable off of with Avowed.

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#36 TheEroica  Moderator
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@hardwenzen said:
@TheEroica said:
@hardwenzen said:
@TheEroica said:
@hardwenzen said:

So much talk about Fallout as of late i am tired of hearing it, and its in my top 3 fav franchises... Talk about a brand new quality Fallout game with quality writing that doesn't exist, not a god damn show or the shitty fallout 4 wtf.

It's a blip in time Hardy... Rude the wave.... We're all still waiting ten years for the next game.

Not only are we waiting 10 years for the next game, but MS will make a massive mistake by allowing Todd and his clueless team develop the game instead of letting Obsidian doing the job.

Would be wise of Microsoft to give obsidian another crack at it.... Obsidian at the time of new Vegas had developers from Black Isle Studios... Is that still the case?

They lost everyone as far as i am aware, but i would still like to see them develop a new fallout game to see the difference in writing compared to NV. I guess we'll see what they're capable off of with Avowed.

Did you like Outer Worlds?

Also...

Where's my steam version of Alpha Protocol? Why is that not a thing?

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@TheEroica said:
@hardwenzen said:
@TheEroica said:
@hardwenzen said:
@TheEroica said:

It's a blip in time Hardy... Rude the wave.... We're all still waiting ten years for the next game.

Not only are we waiting 10 years for the next game, but MS will make a massive mistake by allowing Todd and his clueless team develop the game instead of letting Obsidian doing the job.

Would be wise of Microsoft to give obsidian another crack at it.... Obsidian at the time of new Vegas had developers from Black Isle Studios... Is that still the case?

They lost everyone as far as i am aware, but i would still like to see them develop a new fallout game to see the difference in writing compared to NV. I guess we'll see what they're capable off of with Avowed.

Did you like Outer Worlds?

Also...

Where's my steam version of Alpha Protocol? Why is that not a thing?

I would kill for an Alpha Protocol remake. Hell, just give me a remaster, even.

(James Bond + Jason Bourne) x (Mass Effect-style action-rpg gameplay) = FUN!

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#38  Edited By hardwenzen  Online
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@TheEroica said:
@hardwenzen said:
@TheEroica said:
@hardwenzen said:
@TheEroica said:

It's a blip in time Hardy... Rude the wave.... We're all still waiting ten years for the next game.

Not only are we waiting 10 years for the next game, but MS will make a massive mistake by allowing Todd and his clueless team develop the game instead of letting Obsidian doing the job.

Would be wise of Microsoft to give obsidian another crack at it.... Obsidian at the time of new Vegas had developers from Black Isle Studios... Is that still the case?

They lost everyone as far as i am aware, but i would still like to see them develop a new fallout game to see the difference in writing compared to NV. I guess we'll see what they're capable off of with Avowed.

Did you like Outer Worlds?

Also...

Where's my steam version of Alpha Protocol? Why is that not a thing?

Absolutely not. The only thing i liked about it is how the game was structured with a bunch of mini planets. Gunplay and enemies variety was so insanely poor that it wasn't possible to enjoy the game.

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#39  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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@hardwenzen said:
@TheEroica said:
@hardwenzen said:
@TheEroica said:

Would be wise of Microsoft to give obsidian another crack at it.... Obsidian at the time of new Vegas had developers from Black Isle Studios... Is that still the case?

They lost everyone as far as i am aware, but i would still like to see them develop a new fallout game to see the difference in writing compared to NV. I guess we'll see what they're capable off of with Avowed.

Did you like Outer Worlds?

Also...

Where's my steam version of Alpha Protocol? Why is that not a thing?

Absolutely not. The only thing i liked about it is how the game was structured with a bunch of mini planets. Gunplay and enemies variety was so insanely poor that it wasn't possible to enjoy the game.

I also felt like it was sub par overall.... I went into it thinking this was the dev that made new Vegas and came going... Mmm OK.

I do think that their second crack at the franchise will be much better though. Just my gut.

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I've put over 200 hours into this game. I think im going to go all in on the creation side. Make settlements, ammo factory, make a crap load of robots. Then decide to get all the gangs and RAID!!!!

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When I first tried Fallout 4 I left the vault and was unable to proceed because I couldn't speak to Mr Handy lol. Luckily I restarted from the beginning and was able to play to the end- got all the main endings too.

Game was just ok. I liked my time with Fallout 3 and New Vegas more. Still feel there can be a better Fallout game. I also don't care at all about the base building

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As a cow, i have more time invested into this shallow game than any lemmings on SW, and i am being called a Bethesda hater by massive trolls like @dabear😏Sickening.

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@hardwenzen said:

As a cow, i have more time invested into this shallow game than any lemmings on SW, and i am being called a Bethesda hater by massive trolls like @dabear😏Sickening.

You played what you deemed as a "shallow game" for almost 400 hours...? 😂 Wut?

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#44 Archangel3371
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Tomorrow is when the update hits right? I’m pretty hyped for it.

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#45 dabear
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@hardwenzen said:

As a cow, i have more time invested into this shallow game than any lemmings on SW, and i am being called a Bethesda hater by massive trolls like @dabear😏Sickening.

What? I never even replied to this thread...

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#46 Saint-George
Member since 2023 • 1260 Posts

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/fallout-reaches-5-million-players-in-one-day/1100-6522892/

If its fallout stats your boasting about....then suck on these

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#47 Saint-George
Member since 2023 • 1260 Posts

^^^^^^^^^^^

Xbox studio's killing it.

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#48 robert_sparkes
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I brought fallout 4 for £3.99 on PSN ready for tomorrow next gen drop looking forward to it after the tv series.

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#49 judaspete
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@mrbojangles25: @TheEroica: Alpha Protocol got re-released on GOG recently. Don't think there will be a Steam version soon though, GOG had to put in a lot of the legwork to bring the game back.