Puzzles these days suck

Most games today thee puzzle is pull the lever the door opens, or find the red key, put the red key in the red door, and it's just like, you gotta be kidding me.

Someone needs to bring, REAL puzzles, back to video games.

You should play Tormented Souls.

Isn't that what System Wars is?

@BassMan: More lost souls on here than tormented, lol

Yeah I’ve noticed that in almost every new game the last few years, very minimal problem solving skills, or in the case of Hogwarts legacy it would just tell you how to solve it if you didn’t get it in the first minute or 2.

Blame video games becoming mainstream and appealing to a mass audience.

I miss the puzzles in '90s games like Lufia II, Resident Evil 1-2, Wild Arms, Alundra, etc.

Baldurs Gate 3 has some pretty difficult puzzles where you only get a few hints here and there to solve them!

I used to feel like using guides was cheating. These days if I'm stumped for more than 5 minutes I'm off to YouTube.

Of course it varies from game to game, but if it breaks up the flow of a game, I just can't be assed.

Yes and no. You generally won't find complex puzzles in mainstream games - but then again, the biggest game of the year (TOTK) is loaded with great puzzles.

Play Outer Wilds

Games back then were designed to challenge you.

Games now are designed to challenge your wallet.

I don’t expect interesting puzzles in AAA games. I think it’s better to play dedicated puzzle games. There some great indie puzzle games.

In AAA games they are mostly used as a pacing device, to break up the action sequences. I agree that it’s disapointing, but I think the main problem is humanity more than game design.

Easy puzzles are bad enough,but to have the main character/s tell you what to do have got to stop or have the choice of being turned off,the 2 that spring to mind as i played them recently are Ragnarok and forbidden west.

@uninspiredcup: Truly. The passion to make great games isn 't there anymore, the passion of making money is the only thing now.

Miss the puzzles in the ps1 era resident evil series and RPG's like alundra. Puzzles now are more like cinematic breaks in gameplay.

believe it or not I miss the blocks from soul reaver.

but india games have great puzzles latley

soul reaver one picture boxes I miss. rotating them

tomb raider as well

I tried playing that last week actually. It's extremely low budget. I just couldn't.

Play Tears of the Kingdom. Greatest puzzles ever in the history of gaming.

It is not a game you go into with previous expectations of what an adventure game should be. I don't agree with your assertion of extremely low budget.

@drifter1924:

There are thousands of games that already have better puzzles than that. Modern Tomb Raider and Resident Evil are good examples of that. I personally prefer puzzles based on gravity and physics for 3D games.

Fenyx Rising has some cool puzzles. I was surprised since it’s a Ubitrash game. It falls for many of the same trappings as most Ubisoft open-worlds (or in general, really) but has some neat stuff.

That why you can't just play watered down and stripped down AAA games that are just trying to appeal to the largest possible audience. Plenty of games still have challenge in tact.. you just have to know where to look if you want a greater challenge, especially when it comes to the puzzles and problem solving. The big blockbuster AAA games are always going to have more hype, but hundreds of great games are released and forgotten about almost immediately that are great games and if they had a larger marketing budget would solidify themselves as staples in the gaming space.

Basically amateurish. PS2 graphics, very basic animations, subtitles, just very basic overall as if it was made by one modder in his parent's basement. I landed on the first planet, discovered that it was completely barren other than a few caves and POI's and that all you do is follow the ping set off by your radar, died and had to do it all over again and was like, if this is the entire game, I think I'll pass. I have other games to play.

If it gets better, let me know. I'll give it another shot.

Well Firmament was just released by Cyan… you know, the studio who made the Myst games back in the day. It’s a puzzle game but its puzzles are tied into the world instead of being totally random like a lot of other puzzle games.

It’s not perfect by any stretch but I’ve really been enjoying it.

Wasn't there somebody name tormented tomatoes on these forums?

Rather easy or hard, puzzles are pretty much boring anyway.

Pentament is a big puzzle - complex and interesting when you see your choice happen and next time pick a different choice and know what can happen to change everything. Try it free - Game Pass!! Thank you Uncle Phil.

@BassMan: WTF is going on with that thumb

Tormy was gifted the perfect video game thumb from the Gods.

@Jag85: Lufia 2 puzzles are brutal. There was no online guides at the time too.

@robbie23: There were quite a few puzzles in Lufia II and Alundra that had me stumped. But it felt rewarding when you eventually figured out the puzzles. But yeah, the brutal puzzles were a big reason why they were so niche, despite being some of the best games in the '90s. It's hard to sell a game to a mainstream audience if the puzzles are brutally difficult.

Puzzles in general stuck.

I'm switching between two games at the moment.

BG3 - I'm stuck on a puzzle.

Dead Space - I'm stuck on puzzle.

**** puzzles.

Get rid of them