Why do Wii fps look like ps2 games?

I have yet to see a Wii fps look better than Halo 2 which is a last gen game. Now I don't care much about graphics, but to me they need to be decent. The closest one to Halo 2 gfx wise is The conduit, but even that has a long way to go. So far these are the fps games I've tried on the Wii. The conduit, Metroid, Cod5, Far Cry and Red Steel. The textures in all these games are terrible. I've honestly come to the conclusion that the Wii is in between the Xbox and the Ps2 in terms of power similar to the gamecube, but a bit better.

Sometimes I hate nintendo for not including a gpu similar to the outdated ATI x800 which would've cost them near nothing to make. It would make the Wii's capabilities 20 times better, offer HD, and make the Wii a better experience. I mean I wouldn't feel like the ssytem is overpriced if it fofered a gpu similar to an X800.

You won't see an FPS that looks better than a last gen Halo 2 since Wii IS LAST GEN simple as that.Syferonik

Agreed, but you would think since ebing reported of being slightly better than an xbox we would see gfx like Riddick, Halo 2 and doom 3.

I have yet to see a Wii fps look better than Halo 2 which is a last gen game. Now I don't care much about graphics, but to me they need to be decent. The closest one to Halo 2 gfx wise is The conduit, but even that has a long way to go. so far fps games I've tried on the Wii. The conduit, Metroid, Cod5, and Far Cry. The textures in all these games are terrible. bigblunt537

1-Halo 2 is ugly, clean your rose tinted glasses.

2-Wait for Red Steel 2? Looks nice so far

I've honestly come to the conclusion that the Wii is in between the Xbox and the Ps2 in terms of power similar to the gamecube, but a bit better.

bigblunt537

I've come to the conclusion the earth is indeed flat. Why? Cant see any curvature from my window and people in the South should be falling into deep space and all those fancy science books and so called "facts" are fake as far as i'm concerned

*ajusts monocle, storms out in his chariot*

we would see gfx like Riddick, Halo 2 and doom 3.

bigblunt537

wtf? Those games look ugly. Their poly-count hits rock bottom, so does the texture resolution in doom's case, so the damn system can render bump-mapping on every surface.

Who the hell wants that?

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

I have yet to see a Wii fps look better than Halo 2 which is a last gen game. Now I don't care much about graphics, but to me they need to be decent. The closest one to Halo 2 gfx wise is The conduit, but even that has a long way to go. so far fps games I've tried on the Wii. The conduit, Metroid, Cod5, and Far Cry. The textures in all these games are terrible. Thunderdrone

1-Halo 2 is ugly, clean your rose tinted glasses.

2-Wait for Red Steel 2? Looks nice so far

I've honestly come to the conclusion that the Wii is in between the Xbox and the Ps2 in terms of power similar to the gamecube, but a bit better.

bigblunt537

I've come to the conclusion the earth is indeed flat. Why? Cant see any curvature from my window and people in the South should be falling into deep space and all those fancy science books and so called "facts" are fake as far as i'm concerned

*ajusts monocle, storms out in his chariot*

Unfortunately your last 2 sentences made absolutely no sense and I hope you're happy that you humiliated yourself. Red Steel 2 does look promising, but honestly I think cell shading is taking the easy way out. This looks similar to XIII and The wind Waker. Again both last gen games. I also don't trust wii screnshots any more especially since The conduits gfx were badly hyped and when I got it, it looked like it could've been done on a ps2.

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

we would see gfx like Riddick, Halo 2 and doom 3.

Thunderdrone

wtf? Those games look ugly. Their poly-count hits rock bottom, so does the texture resolution in doom's case, so the damn system can render bump-mapping on every surface.

Who the hell wants that?

Those game had better player models and better environments than any shooter on the Wii.

[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

1-Halo 2 is ugly, clean your rose tinted glasses.

2-Wait for Red Steel 2? Looks nice so far

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

I've honestly come to the conclusion that the Wii is in between the Xbox and the Ps2 in terms of power similar to the gamecube, but a bit better.

bigblunt537

I've come to the conclusion the earth is indeed flat. Why? Cant see any curvature from my window and people in the South should be falling into deep space and all those fancy science books and so called "facts" are fake as far as i'm concerned

*ajusts monocle, storms out in his chariot*

Unfortunately your last 2 sentences made absolutely no sense and I hope you're happy that you humiliated yourself. Red Steel 2 does look promising, but honestly I think cell shading is taking the easy way out. This looks similar to XIII and The wind Waker. Again both last gen games. I also don't trust wii screnshots any more especially since The conduits gfx were badly hyped and when I got it, it looked like it could've been done on a ps2.

Unfortunately your last 2 sentences made absolutely no sense and I hope your happy you humiliated yourself. bigblunt537

I am.

Red Steel 2 does look promising, but honestly I think cell shading is taking the easy way out. This looks similar to XIIIbigblunt537

Not really, no.

I also don't trust wii screnshots any more especially since The conduits gfx were badly hyped and when I got it, it looked like it could've been done on a ps2.

bigblunt537

The Conduit never looked good. It was pushing bum-mapping, yadda yadda, but its an ugly, shiny game by a smallish developer that's just trying to earn a reputation and stop developing licensed games for a living.

I dunno what you where expecting from HVS, a multi-million dollar production financed by an industry giant? yeah its your own fault you where disapointed

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"]

I've come to the conclusion the earth is indeed flat. Why? Cant see any curvature from my window and people in the South should be falling into deep space and all those fancy science books and so called "facts" are fake as far as i'm concerned

*ajusts monocle, storms out in his chariot*

Cobalt_Spartan

Unfortunately your last 2 sentences made absolutely no sense and I hope you're happy that you humiliated yourself. Red Steel 2 does look promising, but honestly I think cell shading is taking the easy way out. This looks similar to XIII and The wind Waker. Again both last gen games. I also don't trust wii screnshots any more especially since The conduits gfx were badly hyped and when I got it, it looked like it could've been done on a ps2.

Specs mean absolutely nothing in comparison of 2 consoles that have completely different architecture. This sounds like the PS3 fanboy arguments. "The ps3 can do real life, but dev's aren't taking advantage of it yet." If the system is capable of it would produce something amazing. only game coming soon of decent gfx are Mario Galaxy 2 and The Grinder. Again I think all the fps I mentioned still look better than the Grinder.

Those game had better player models and better environments than any shooter on the Wii.

bigblunt537

Doom 3(low rez textures, piss-poor geometry)

^look at the monster model and its textures

^look at the monster model's blocky legs and the low resolution of the gun's textures.

Halo 2 (low geometry enviorments, low rez textures hidden by bump mapping, highly patterned texture maps to free memory)

^large but blocky areas. low rez textures

Riddick (blurry, Low resolution textures and geometry, again, hidden by some heavy bump-mapping)

^look at that floor. Look at those hands

Is nostalgia sugar-coating your memories or are you people blind?

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

Those game had better player models and better environments than any shooter on the Wii.

Thunderdrone

Doom 3(low rez textures, piss-poor geometry)

^look at the monster model and its textures

^look at the monster model's blocky legs and the low resolution of the gun's textures.

Halo 2 (low geometry enviorments, low rez textures hidden by bump mapping, highly patterned texture maps to free memory)

^large but blocky areas. low rez textures

Riddick (blurry, Low resolution textures and geometry, again, hidden by some heavy bump-mapping)

^look at that floor. Look at those hands

Well I'll admit that my memory of those games has them painted a bit clearer than those screens, but I still think the player/world models in Wii shooters look worst than those.

Well I'll admit that my memory of those games has them painted a bit clearer than those screens, but I still think the player/world models in Wii shooters look worst than those.

bigblunt537

Not at all.

Well I'll admit that my memory of those games has them painted a bit clearer than those screens, but I still think the player/world models in Wii shooters look worst than those.

bigblunt537

Well, its not a shooter but Metroid Prime 3 completely takes a dump on those games technicaly. It has huge amounts of highly detailed textures, soft shadows and lighting, complex enviroments and it runs locked at 60 fps. Its also very crisp and clean.

^ Horribly compressed pics, but you can see the complex models and details

^ MP3 textures. They NEVER repeat, every single world, model and prop had its own figh quality texture map. Also, soft shadows

^high detailed character models.

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

I have yet to see a Wii fps look better than Halo 2 which is a last gen game. Now I don't care much about graphics, but to me they need to be decent. The closest one to Halo 2 gfx wise is The conduit, but even that has a long way to go. so far fps games I've tried on the Wii. The conduit, Metroid, Cod5, and Far Cry. The textures in all these games are terrible. Thunderdrone

1-Halo 2 is ugly, clean your rose tinted glasses.

2-Wait for Red Steel 2? Looks nice so far

I've honestly come to the conclusion that the Wii is in between the Xbox and the Ps2 in terms of power similar to the gamecube, but a bit better.

bigblunt537

I've come to the conclusion the earth is indeed flat. Why? Cant see any curvature from my window and people in the South should be falling into deep space and all those fancy science books and so called "facts" are fake as far as i'm concerned

*ajusts monocle, storms out in his chariot*

MP3's an FPS... :|

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

Well I'll admit that my memory of those games has them painted a bit clearer than those screens, but I still think the player/world models in Wii shooters look worst than those.

Thunderdrone

Well, its not a shooter but Metroid Prime 3 completely takes a dump on those games technicaly. It has huge amounts of highly detailed textures, soft shadows and lighting, complex enviroments and it runs locked at 60 fps. Its also very crisp and clean.

^ Horribly compressed pics, but you can see the complex models and details

^ MP3 textures. They NEVER repeat, every single world, model and prop had its own figh quality texture map. Also, soft shadows

^high detailed character models.

You know what I'll have to admit. Metroid Prime 3 does beat the other games so yes I was wrong I admit it, but than why does this game look better than every wii title out now?

Also the last screen is horrible and definitely not highly detailed.

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

Well I'll admit that my memory of those games has them painted a bit clearer than those screens, but I still think the player/world models in Wii shooters look worst than those.

Thunderdrone

Well, its not a shooter but Metroid Prime 3 completely takes a dump on those games technicaly. It has huge amounts of highly detailed textures, soft shadows and lighting, complex enviroments and it runs locked at 60 fps. Its also very crisp and clean.

^ Horribly compressed pics, but you can see the complex models and details

^ MP3 textures. They NEVER repeat, every single world, model and prop had its own figh quality texture map. Also, soft shadows

^high detailed character models.

You are quite deluted if that game can have that type of anti alias.Communistsheep

You are quite deluted if that game can have that type of anti alias.

Communistsheep

[QUOTE="Communistsheep"]You are quite deluted if that game can have that type of anti alias.

Cobalt_Spartan

[QUOTE="Communistsheep"]You are quite deluted if that game can have that type of anti alias.Thunderdrone

[QUOTE="Cobalt_Spartan"]

[QUOTE="Communistsheep"]You are quite deluted if that game can have that type of anti alias.

Communistsheep

Still kinda hard to see the jaggies.

[QUOTE="Thunderdrone"][QUOTE="Communistsheep"]You are quite deluted if that game can have that type of anti alias.Communistsheep

in-game pics

Same thing, less AA.

...and no ps3 or 360 FPS controls as well as can be achieved on the Wii.

Aim assist is for nubs. Sure, the Wii doesn't have the graphics capacity of the other two consoles, but graphics don't decide whether the people playing a game are nubs. Control schemes that end up using aim assit, however, do make their players out to be nubs.

You know what I'll have to admit. Metroid Prime 3 does beat the other games so yes I was wrong I admit it, but than why does this game look better than every wii title out now?

Also the last screen is horrible and definitely not highly detailed.

bigblunt537

Because Wii graphic sucks we all know that by now

A couple of Wii games looks much better than PS2 games. I am more irritated by the fact the the best GC games can still rival the best looking Wii games.

Twin Snakes, Rogue Squadron 2 and 3 for example.

Lazy devs?

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

Well I'll admit that my memory of those games has them painted a bit clearer than those screens, but I still think the player/world models in Wii shooters look worst than those.

Thunderdrone

Well, its not a shooter but Metroid Prime 3 completely takes a dump on those games technicaly. It has huge amounts of highly detailed textures, soft shadows and lighting, complex enviroments and it runs locked at 60 fps. Its also very crisp and clean.

^ Horribly compressed pics, but you can see the complex models and details

^ MP3 textures. They NEVER repeat, every single world, model and prop had its own figh quality texture map. Also, soft shadows

^high detailed character models.

Holy thread revival, batman!!

How did you track this down?

Wow Thunderdrone you're awesome...

Anyway, although it's true that the Wii's FPS's don't look great, the games you mentioned aren't that good looking either. Not only that but MP3 looks a hell of a lot better than all of those games and Red Steel 2 is pretty good looking too. I also think The Conduit looks better than those games.

Don't you know the Wii's graphics capabilities by now?

Apparantly you dont. While not by much the Wii is more graphically advanced then the PS2.

Might as well take the time to say MP3 looks gorgeous.

[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

we would see gfx like Riddick, Halo 2 and doom 3.

wtf? Those games look ugly. Their poly-count hits rock bottom, so does the texture resolution in doom's case, so the damn system can render bump-mapping on every surface.

Who the hell wants that?

You won't see an FPS that looks better than a last gen Halo 2 since Wii IS LAST GEN simple as that.Syferonik

Apparantly you dont. While not by much the Wii is more graphically advanced then the PS2.

bobcheeseball

Because the wii is last gen. asyrian758

This gen must suck badly because it is winning the console war.