JRPGs, where and when?

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#1 Pangster007
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Where do you think the JRPGs will go in this generation?
Also, will JRPGs still be coming out on the PS2? because i regard the PS2 very much alive and will be for quite some time to come.
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#2 Felous1
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360, this year.
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360, this year.Felous1
Question was generation. Not this year.
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Im sure PS2 will still get some JRPGs, but none of the "big hitters" anymore most likely. Probably some obscure stuff that may not even release outside Japan Currently 360 has more schedualed JRPGs releasing for it then PS3 (by a good margin). However, it's too early to predict an entire console lifespan and how these trends will change
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DS will get the most by miles.

After that if the interetst holds up probably the Wii.
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Question was generation. Not this year.

Damn ! That's what happens when you just read the title.
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Wii, if it continues it's domination in Japan.
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DS will get the most by miles.

After that if the interetst holds up probably the Wii.
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DS was not in the voting cue.
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[QUOTE="Felous1"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] Question was generation. Not this year.

Damn ! That's what happens when you just read the title.

woops soz
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]DS will get the most by miles.

After that if the interetst holds up probably the Wii.
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DS was not in the voting cue.



That's why I mentioned the Wii as well.
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#11 shungokustasu
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I say PS3. It will have a longer life than the 360 and Wii. Wii will be second. 360 will be last. When will people face the music. Xbox is not liked in Asia.
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Xbox is not liked in Asia.shungokustasu
Since when only people in Asian buy JRPGs ?
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]Xbox is not liked in Asia.Felous1
Since when only people in Asian buy JRPGs ?



Not only but they buy 10 times as many.

Most JRPGs don't even get released outside of Japan.
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#14 Anxz
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360 until at least 2008.
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[QUOTE="Felous1"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]Xbox is not liked in Asia.cakeorrdeath
Since when only people in Asian buy JRPGs ?



Not only but they buy 10 times as many.

Most JRPGs don't even get released outside of Japan.

lol I had like a 20 line paragraph trying to explain that. You did it in 2.
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="Felous1"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]Xbox is not liked in Asia.shungokustasu
Since when only people in Asian buy JRPGs ?



Not only but they buy 10 times as many.

Most JRPGs don't even get released outside of Japan.

lol I had like a 20 line paragraph trying to explain that. You did it in 2.



I do like to be concise8)
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360 until at least 2008.Anxz
And then on from 2008?
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I say PS3. It will have a longer life than the 360 and Wii. Wii will be second. 360 will be last. When will people face the music. Xbox is not liked in Asia.shungokustasu
Correction, xbox is not liked by fanboys like you
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I've yet to see any Tales of..., Suikoden, Wild Arms, etc announced yet so I'm not so thrilled about jRPG's right now. PS2 has a shat load of them that I have yet to played so...
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Not only but they buy 10 times as many.

Most JRPGs don't even get released outside of Japan.
cakeorrdeath
Just because the 360 is not liked in Asia it's not the end for the JRPG developers. Take a look at the FF12 numbers outside Japan.
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] lol I had like a 20 line paragraph trying to explain that. You did it in 2.



I do like to be concise8)

Going back to school for philosophy. I learned to draw out each conclusion. You don't miss the details that people may interpret wrong.
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]I say PS3. It will have a longer life than the 360 and Wii. Wii will be second. 360 will be last. When will people face the music. Xbox is not liked in Asia.osusfaith
Correction, xbox is not liked by fanboys like you

So, you think they do like the Xbox in Asia, in general?
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]I say PS3. It will have a longer life than the 360 and Wii. Wii will be second. 360 will be last. When will people face the music. Xbox is not liked in Asia.osusfaith
Correction, xbox is not liked by fanboys like you



Was that needed? He had a valid point.
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]I say PS3. It will have a longer life than the 360 and Wii. Wii will be second. 360 will be last. When will people face the music. Xbox is not liked in Asia.osusfaith
Correction, xbox is not liked by fanboys like you

You right, I'm stereotyping Asia. How wrong of me. Most people in Asia don't like the Xbox.
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Logically, most rpg franchises that we're on ps2 should go to ps3, so it will probably be the ps3. That being said, the loss of DQ to the DS could be a sign of things to come if Sony continues to have a hard time moving units. If that does happen , it's anyone's game. The 360 has a great lineup so far, and the Wii would be a great candidate for many RPG franchises. So I'll say 360 unless Sony turns things around.
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#26 cakeorrdeath
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

Not only but they buy 10 times as many.

Most JRPGs don't even get released outside of Japan.
Felous1
Just because the 360 is not liked in Asia it's not the end for the JRPG developers. Take a look at the FF12 numbers outside Japan.



Yes a few big titles do well in the West but 95% flop or don't even get released.

I'm not saying the 360 will get no JRPGs just that it will get the least, as it is clearly the console with the least JRPG fans.
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#27 cakeorrdeath
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"] lol I had like a 20 line paragraph trying to explain that. You did it in 2.



I do like to be concise8)

Going back to school for philosophy. I learned to draw out each conclusion. You don't miss the details that people may interpret wrong.



I've learned on here that people will normally pick apart what you say and only argue against your weakest and usually most isignificant point. Ignoring the rest.
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[QUOTE="Felous1"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

Not only but they buy 10 times as many.

Most JRPGs don't even get released outside of Japan.
cakeorrdeath
Just because the 360 is not liked in Asia it's not the end for the JRPG developers. Take a look at the FF12 numbers outside Japan.



Yes a few big titles do well in the West but 95% flop or don't even get released.

I'm not saying the 360 will get no JRPGs just that it will get the least, as it is clearly the console with the least JRPG fans.

And that 95% don't get released on NA and EU usually cuz they're too weird or suck. We're talking about mainstream JRPG titles that always come to the west. Why would someone care about all the obscure, usually bad, JRPGs that never come to the US unless they were an overzealous importer?
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="Felous1"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]

Not only but they buy 10 times as many.

Most JRPGs don't even get released outside of Japan.
osusfaith
Just because the 360 is not liked in Asia it's not the end for the JRPG developers. Take a look at the FF12 numbers outside Japan.



Yes a few big titles do well in the West but 95% flop or don't even get released.

I'm not saying the 360 will get no JRPGs just that it will get the least, as it is clearly the console with the least JRPG fans.

And that 95% don't get released on NA and EU usually cuz they're too weird or suck. We're talking about mainstream JRPG titles that always come to the west. Why would someone care about all the obscure, usually bad, JRPGs that never come to the US unless they were an overzealous importer?

Oh, so the TC meant mainstream Jrpgs, and not all Jrpgs? Are you the TC?
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And that 95% don't get released on NA and EU usually cuz they're too weird or suck. We're talking about mainstream JRPG titles that always come to the west. Why would someone care about all the obscure, usually bad, JRPGs that never come to the US unless they were an overzealous importer?osusfaith


Well I was only refering to numbers not quality.

I mean how are we supposed to predict where the good JRPGs will end up when we don't even know which the good ones will be?
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#31 osusfaith
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^^^^^^^^^^^^ I'm not speaking for the TC, I'm speaking for myself. Why would a western gamer claim having tons of JRPGs of poor quality (so poor they never release outside Japan) on a console as an attribute? It does not affect them at all, nor should it be something to be terribly proud of.
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#32 osusfaith
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[QUOTE="osusfaith"]And that 95% don't get released on NA and EU usually cuz they're too weird or suck. We're talking about mainstream JRPG titles that always come to the west. Why would someone care about all the obscure, usually bad, JRPGs that never come to the US unless they were an overzealous importer?cakeorrdeath


Well I was only refering to numbers not quality.

I mean how are we supposed to predict where the good JRPGs will end up when we don't even know which the good will be?

I'm not sayin all the ones that make it to the west are good (god knows they're not), but it's a pretty safe bet that 99% of the ones that don't even make it to the west , there's usually a good reason for it (not culturally friendly over here, or just god-awful quality)
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#33 cakeorrdeath
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[QUOTE="osusfaith"]^^^^^^^^^^^^ I'm not speaking for the TC, I'm speaking for myself. Why would a western gamer claim having tons of JRPGs of poor quality (so poor they never release outside Japan) on a console as an attribute? It does not affect them at all, nor should it be something to be terribly proud of.



No one was expressing pride or preference they were just stating an opinion about which they felt would have the greatest numbers.
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#34 osusfaith
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="osusfaith"]^^^^^^^^^^^^ I'm not speaking for the TC, I'm speaking for myself. Why would a western gamer claim having tons of JRPGs of poor quality (so poor they never release outside Japan) on a console as an attribute? It does not affect them at all, nor should it be something to be terribly proud of.



No one was expressing pride or preference they were just stating an opinion about which they felt would have the greatest numbers.

Well greatest numbers, then, even if 95% of it will potentially be garbage, will be Wii or PS3, as those are "safe bet" systems for small Japanese devs who make 95% of the shovel-ware garbage JRPGs that don't hit the US
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#35 cakeorrdeath
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[QUOTE="osusfaith"] I'm not sayin all the ones that make it to the west are good (god knows they're not), but it's a pretty safe bet that 99% of the ones that don't even make it to the west , there's usually a good reason for it (not culturally friendly over here, or just god-awful quality)



Maybe it's because outside of Final Fantasy and Kingdom Hearts almost all JRPGs bomb in the West when compared to Japan even the good ones.

(Where's Panzer when you need him.)
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[QUOTE="Anxz"]360 until at least 2008.Pangster007
And then on from 2008?

No one knows for sure. I personally think Ps3 will have more but 360 will also have lots.

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I personally think that whichever system sells the most in Japan will get the most attention from JRPG developers. Also, i'm more interested in titles that will hit this side of the world. I know Japanese, but i'm not good enough to read the all the kanjis.
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I personally think that whichever system sells the most in Japan will get the most attention from JRPG developers. Pangster007


Me too.
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[QUOTE="Pangster007"]I personally think that whichever system sells the most in Japan will get the most attention from JRPG developers. cakeorrdeath


Me too.

I concur that notion too.
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="Pangster007"]I personally think that whichever system sells the most in Japan will get the most attention from JRPG developers. shungokustasu


Me too.

I concur that notion too.

But Japanese devs have shown a desire lately to make their games for a more global market. I would also agree with that statement, but that was the trend for last gen. I don't see it going the same way this gen.
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But Japanese devs have shown a desire lately to make their games for a more global market. I would also agree with that statement, but that was the trend for last gen. I don't see it going the same way this gen.TheCrazed420


Japanese devs have shown the desire to make Western syle games for the Western market not JRPGs
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[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="Pangster007"]I personally think that whichever system sells the most in Japan will get the most attention from JRPG developers. TheCrazed420


Me too.

I concur that notion too.

But Japanese devs have shown a desire lately to make their games for a more global market. I would also agree with that statement, but that was the trend for last gen. I don't see it going the same way this gen.

that's a good point. *bump*
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[QUOTE="TheCrazed420"] But Japanese devs have shown a desire lately to make their games for a more global market. I would also agree with that statement, but that was the trend for last gen. I don't see it going the same way this gen.

That's still the Wii, then, with a majority in Japan, and probably a majority in Europe and the US..
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[QUOTE="TheCrazed420"]But Japanese devs have shown a desire lately to make their games for a more global market. I would also agree with that statement, but that was the trend for last gen. I don't see it going the same way this gen.cakeorrdeath


Japanese devs have shown the desire to make Western syle games for the Western market not JRPGs

FFXII had a very western feel to it.
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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="TheCrazed420"]But Japanese devs have shown a desire lately to make their games for a more global market. I would also agree with that statement, but that was the trend for last gen. I don't see it going the same way this gen.TheCrazed420


Japanese devs have shown the desire to make Western syle games for the Western market not JRPGs

FFXII had a very western feel to it.

Very Western

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[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="TheCrazed420"]But Japanese devs have shown a desire lately to make their games for a more global market. I would also agree with that statement, but that was the trend for last gen. I don't see it going the same way this gen.TheCrazed420


Japanese devs have shown the desire to make Western syle games for the Western market not JRPGs

FFXII had a very western feel to it.

I agree with that completely. MMO + Western... that might be an anomaly though.
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[QUOTE="TheCrazed420"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"][QUOTE="TheCrazed420"]But Japanese devs have shown a desire lately to make their games for a more global market. I would also agree with that statement, but that was the trend for last gen. I don't see it going the same way this gen.cakeorrdeath


Japanese devs have shown the desire to make Western syle games for the Western market not JRPGs

FFXII had a very western feel to it.

Very Western

Have you played it , bud? Yes, the main character is still very metro, but the combat system and Star Wars/LOTR influenced story is very noticeable.
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looks like PS3 is winning in the poll so far *bump*
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