UPDATE: Jury finds both sexual abuse and defamation in rape case against former president Donald Trump.

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NEW YORK (AP) — A jury of six men and three women was chosen Tuesday to hear a former advice columnist’s lawsuit accusing former President Donald Trump of raping her in the 1990s. Opening statements were expected later in the day. The federal civil trial stands to tests Trump’s “Teflon Don” reputation for shaking off serious legal problems and to reprise accounts of the type of sexual misconduct that rocked his 2016 presidential campaign as he seeks office again. He denies E. Jean Carroll’s claim and all the others, saying they were falsehoods spun up to damage him. The jurors were selected after questioning about not only their background but their news-watching habits and more. They were asked whether they had made political donations, supported any of a roster of right- and left-wing groups, used Trump’s social media platform, read Carroll’s former Elle magazine column and even if they’d seen Trump’s former reality show “The Apprentice” — and whether any of these and other matters would make it difficult for them to be fair. Jurors’ names will be kept secret and they’ll be escorted to and from the courthouse to avoid any harassment or invasions of privacy, U.S. District Judge Lewis A. Kaplan said. Ranging in age from 26 to 66, the group includes a janitor, a physical therapist and people who work in security, health care collections, a library, a high school and other settings. One said she follows news by watching “everything”; another said he didn’t follow it at all. The trial is in a federal civil court, meaning that no matter the outcome, Trump isn’t in danger of going to jail. He isn’t required to be in court, either, and his lawyers have indicated he most likely won’t testify. The trial comes a month after he pleaded not guilty in an unrelated criminal case surrounding payments made to bury accounts of alleged extramarital sex. Carroll is expected to testify about a chance encounter with Trump in late 1995 or early 1996 that she says turned violent. The trial will also include Carroll’s defamation claim against Trump over disparaging remarks he made about her in response to the rape allegations. She’s seeking unspecified damages and a retraction. Related coverage – Trump likely won't attend trial over rape claim, lawyer says – Under oath, Trump hurled insults at woman who alleges rape – Trump indictment ends decades of perceived invincibility She says that after she ran into the future president at Manhattan’s Bergdorf Goodman, he invited her to shop with him for a woman’s lingerie gift before they teased one another to try on a garment. Carroll says they ended up alone together in a store dressing room, where Trump pushed her against a wall and raped before she fought him off and fled. Since Carroll first made her accusations in a 2019 memoir, Trump has vehemently denied that a rape ever occurred or that he even knew Carroll. Trump has labeled Carroll a “nut job” and “mentally sick.” He claimed she fabricated the rape claim to boost sales of her book. “She’s not my type,” he has said repeatedly, although during sworn questioning in October, he also misidentified her in a photograph as his ex-wife Marla Maples. Carroll didn’t stop to speak with reporters as she arrived at the courthouse Tuesday morning. Jurors are also expected to hear from two other women who say they were sexually assaulted by Trump. Jessica Leeds is set to testify that Trump tried to put his hand up her skirt on a 1979 flight on which the two were assigned neighboring seats. Natasha Stoynoff, a former People magazine staff writer, will testify that Trump pinned her against a wall and forcibly kissed her at his Florida mansion when she went there in 2005 to interview Trump and his then-pregnant wife Melania Trump. Jurors will also see the infamous 2005 “Access Hollywood” video in which Trump is heard making misogynistic remarks about women, including an assertion that celebrities can grab, even sexually, women without asking. Carroll’s allegations normally would be too old to bring to court. But in November, New York state enacted a law allowing for suits over decades-old sexual abuse claims. Kaplan, who will preside over the trial, rejected a request by Trump’s lawyers that jurors be told that the ex-president wanted to spare the city the disruption his presence might cause. Trump could still decide to attend the trial and testify. If he does not, the jury might be shown excerpts from his deposition, which was recorded on video. On Monday, Kaplan instructed lawyers on both sides not to say anything in front of prospective jurors Tuesday about who is paying legal fees. Earlier this month, the judge let Trump’s lawyers question Carroll for an extra hour after it was revealed that her lawyers had received funding from American Future Republic, an organization funded by LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman. In earlier questioning, Carroll said the lawyers were relying solely on contingency fees. The Associated Press typically does not name people who say they have been sexually assaulted unless they come forward publicly, as Carroll, Leeds and Stoynoff have done.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-columnist-fddbb3e9e3cb6a3831ac5e09dd222774

Trump rape case incoming. Trump says Carroll isn't his type, which begs the question who is his rape type. Perhaps it's Jessica Leeds who sounds like she has a story that fits with what Trump bragged about in 2016, "grabbing women by the pussy". Or perhaps Natasha Stoynoffis is the type of woman Trump prefers to rape as she will be testifying that Trump pinned her up against a wall a forcibly kissed her.

I wonder what other details will come out.

I also wonder what other lawsuits against Trump are in the works.

UPDATE!

8m ago15.10 EDT

Jury finds Trump sexually abused Carroll, awards $2m

A federal jury in New York City has found that Donald Trump sexually abused advice columnist E Jean Carroll and awarded more than $2m in damages, Reuters reports. However, the jurors did not agree with Carroll’s allegation that the former president raped her, according to Reuters.

4m ago20.14 BST

Trump defamed Carroll, jury finds, orders $3 mn in damages

A federal jury in New York City found that Donald Trump defamed advice columnist E Jean Carroll with an October 2022 social media post in which he called her allegations a “con job”, Reuters reports.

The jury awarded Carroll a total of $3 mn in damages, $2.7 mn of which are compensatory and $280,000 of which are punitive. They also awarded $20,000 in punitive damages against Trump over a claim of battery made by Carroll.

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#2 LJS9502_basic
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Odd so few women on the jury.

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@LJS9502_basic said:

Odd so few women on the jury.

Agreed. I would think it should be 5 women and 4 men, but I don't have any legal argument to back that up.

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@Serraph105 said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Odd so few women on the jury.

Agreed. I would think it should be 5 women and 4 men, but I don't have any legal argument to back that up.

Yeah, but doesn't it take a unanimous decision from the jurors? Or is it different in these cases?

Still, the fact that there are more men lowers the odds. At least, you would think so.

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@mrbojangles25 said:
@Serraph105 said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

Odd so few women on the jury.

Agreed. I would think it should be 5 women and 4 men, but I don't have any legal argument to back that up.

Yeah, but doesn't it take a unanimous decision from the jurors? Or is it different in these cases?

Still, the fact that there are more men lowers the odds. At least, you would think so.

Can't speak for that location but where I live when it comes to civil trials it's 10 out of 12.

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#6  Edited By SargentD
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woman is batshit grifter.

This is the same wacko who wrote a book about her supposed "rape" but wrote a book about it before pressing charges, same woman from back in 2016 lol

I laughed at her last time she came out because her interview was insane, CNN cut the ending of this interview because it was bizzare she looked giddy and happy about all of it, said rape was sexy and then called anderson cooper cute lmao!! cant make this shit up, this is real life guys..

and im laughing at it again because its ridiculous they are trying to use this against Trump again

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she refuses to use the word rape because it didnt last long, she calls it a "fight" to not disrespect woman who WERE raped....??? lol

She doesn't use the word rape... because she says most people think of rape as being SEXY thinking about thier fantasies'!! LMAOOO *CNN cuts that part out on their video*

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@sargentd: Never write off sexual assault as not criminal dude.

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@LJS9502_basic said:

@sargentd: Never write off sexual assault as not criminal dude.

Lying about being raped for money/attention is evil. She wrote herself off going on air sounding like an absolute fraud.

I don't believe her at all. Anyone who actually listened to her objectively should come to the same conclusions.

What she is doing is a slap in the face to actual rape victims. It's disgusting.

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@sargentd said:

woman is batshit grifter.

Source?

We know for a fact Trump is a batshit grifter as per court cases, dunno about her.

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@sargentd said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

@sargentd: Never write off sexual assault as not criminal dude.

Lying about being raped for money/attention is evil.

The chances all 20 women are lying is very slim, statistically speaking. Where are your facts/evidence she lied for money?

@sargentd said:

and im laughing at it again because its ridiculous they are trying to use this against Trump again

List of Trump's accusers and their allegations of sexual misconduct - ABC News (go.com)

You are saying all of them are lying? Interesting.

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Just because Trump admits and brags about being a sexual abuser it doesn't means he's guilty. I find it very hard, even if guilty, to have a solid case for something the happened in the 90s.

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@zaryia: "You are saying all of them are lying? Interesting."

Come on, you know sargentd is saying that. He's a proud membe of cult45.

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@zaryia: "You are saying all of them are lying? Interesting."

Come on, you know sargentd is saying that. He's a proud member of cult45.

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@Serraph105: she goes on CNN to promote her book, where she claims she was raped in the 90s by Trump... But she wouldn't call it rape.. because she finds that insulting to woman who were raped... Then says rape is sexy and apart of fantasies.. then proceeds to hit on Anderson Cooper... A gay news anchor..

Hilarious 😂😂😂😂

I get part of being a leftist nowadays is believing all woman no matter what... But this woman obviously isn't all there or have the right intentions.

Good luck stopping Trump with this trash but like I've said before, when the left over extends it makes people look into it... That's the last thing the left should want.. because the details smell like doodoo.

the constant attacks using the justice system will look coordinated because it is. It will backfire. Democrats are making Trump a legit Martyr.

Big Dummies.

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I don't believe her at all. Anyone who actually listened to her objectively should come to the same conclusions.

This gives me a good chuckle coming from someone who believes the words of a proven con man and liar.

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She looks mad as ****, i mean i hate Trump as much as the next guy, but it doesn't mean any accusation against him is truth by default.

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The way some of you guys sound, you might as well voluntarily give up all your rights as a human if you’re a guy.

Imagine being tasked with having to view a case objectively, to look over all the evidence, and to determine if someone is guilty but to be told that you don’t have the right judgment on this particular case because you’re a man.

You guys are literally arguing for bias to be overtly inserted into the case because you think that women will vote a certain way. I fear for the right to a fair trial in this land.

Feminism has really brainwashed the masses, not the least of which are men.

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@The_Deepblue said:

The way some of you guys sound, you might as well voluntarily give up all your rights as a human if you’re a guy.

Imagine being tasked with having to view a case objectively, to look over all the evidence, and to determine if someone is guilty but to be told that you don’t have the right judgment on this particular case because you’re a man.

Feminism has really brainwashed the masses, not the least of which are men.

Who said Trump was guilty ITT?

The biggest claims I have seen being thrown around ITT are from SargentD, a conservative. Claiming the woman is lying, without citation.

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@sargentd said:

@Serraph105:

Good luck stopping Trump with this trash

Are you saying all 18 allegations are tactics by Democrats to stop his election? Link?

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@zaryia: From what I read, people were hoping that more women would be jurors because, if it involves sexual assault against a woman, then those women would cast their votes against Trump. There was sentiment posted that more women would hopefully equate to a guilty verdict.

It assumes that women won’t use their brains and that men are just going to be misogynistic and vote against the woman.

But maybe I misread you guys. I don’t speak or understand “lib” too well.

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@zaryia: From what I read, people were hoping that more women would be jurors because, if it involves sexual assault against a woman, then those women would cast their votes against Trump. There was sentiment posted that more women would hopefully equate to a guilty verdict.

I don't see any of that in this thread.

If you're going off of the dredges of social media, I can just start quoting the KKK or Neo-Nazis, which are conservatives groups, and apply to that to every poster here in every thread.

See how silly that would be?

@The_Deepblue said:

But maybe I misread you guys. I don’t speak or understand “lib” too well.

The English posted ITT is quite clear.

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I still think the jury make-up stands in the plaintiff's favor, given it's in New York. It certainly doesn't look good that under deposition, regarding his defense she wasn't his type, is that he couldn't tell the difference between E Jean Carroll and his wife. I had heard he decided to agree to the deposition over his previous statements about how guilty people don't plead the 5th and that could be used against him. Boy, his mouth certainly does dig himself into a hole. I'm sure any cross examination of Trump will be like shooting fish in a barrel.

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@zaryia:

“Still, the fact that there are more men lowers the odds. At least, you would think so.”

“Agreed. I would think it should be 5 women and 4 men, but I don't have any legal argument to back that up.”

“Odd so few women on the jury.”

Again, I don’t speak lib, so maybe reading between the lib’s lines or even taking a lib at face value doesn’t mean anything. Libs do have a notorious disregard for how language works after all.

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@The_Deepblue said:

@zaryia:

“Still, the fact that there are more men lowers the odds. At least, you would think so.”

“Agreed. I would think it should be 5 women and 4 men, but I don't have any legal argument to back that up.”

“Odd so few women on the jury.”

I should start quoting random Neo-Nazis and the KKK social media posts in every thread to counter what conservatives say in this forum.

Oh wait, I'm not a child. Why are you using a 12 year olds tactics?

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Libs do have a notorious disregard for how language works after all.

Trump had the lowest educated voter base in 50 years and red areas have worse educational outcomes. You had countless conservatives die because they couldn't understand simple dictionary definitions and simple science (Covid).

You picked the worst ad-hom to throw at me.

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@The_Deepblue said:

@zaryia:

“Still, the fact that there are more men lowers the odds. At least, you would think so.”

“Agreed. I would think it should be 5 women and 4 men, but I don't have any legal argument to back that up.”

“Odd so few women on the jury.”

Again, I don’t speak lib, so maybe reading between the lib’s lines or even taking a lib at face value doesn’t mean anything. Libs do have a notorious disregard for how language works after all.

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#27  Edited By InEMplease
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@The_Deepblue said:

@zaryia:

“Still, the fact that there are more men lowers the odds. At least, you would think so.”

“Agreed. I would think it should be 5 women and 4 men, but I don't have any legal argument to back that up.”

“Odd so few women on the jury.”

Again, I don’t speak lib, so maybe reading between the lib’s lines or even taking a lib at face value doesn’t mean anything. Libs do have a notorious disregard for how language works after all.

That's rich. Your lack of awareness is truly amusing.

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@sargentd: Never write off sexual assault as not criminal dude.

Lying about being raped for money/attention is evil. She wrote herself off going on air sounding like an absolute fraud.

I don't believe her at all. Anyone who actually listened to her objectively should come to the same conclusions.

What she is doing is a slap in the face to actual rape victims. It's disgusting.

You did exactly what I said not to do. It's disgusting how you hate women so much that your default answer to a sexual assault allegation is immediate dismissal and blame.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@sargentd said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

@sargentd: Never write off sexual assault as not criminal dude.

Lying about being raped for money/attention is evil. She wrote herself off going on air sounding like an absolute fraud.

I don't believe her at all. Anyone who actually listened to her objectively should come to the same conclusions.

What she is doing is a slap in the face to actual rape victims. It's disgusting.

You did exactly what I said not to do. It's disgusting how you hate women so much that your default answer to a sexual assault allegation is immediate dismissal and blame.

Typical leftist BS. You say I hate women because I'm openly stating truths. This woman is bat shit crazy, she went on CNN to promote her book, she called rape sexy, and hit on Anderson Cooper. Do I take this person seriously??? Nope. That doesn't mean I hate all woman.

I think this woman is insulting to actual victims of rape. This woman makes a mockery of it. She disgusts me. I do not at all believe she's a victim. She's a fraud.

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@sargentd said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@sargentd said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

@sargentd: Never write off sexual assault as not criminal dude.

Lying about being raped for money/attention is evil. She wrote herself off going on air sounding like an absolute fraud.

I don't believe her at all. Anyone who actually listened to her objectively should come to the same conclusions.

What she is doing is a slap in the face to actual rape victims. It's disgusting.

You did exactly what I said not to do. It's disgusting how you hate women so much that your default answer to a sexual assault allegation is immediate dismissal and blame.

Typical leftist BS. You say I hate women because I'm openly stating truths. This woman is bat shit crazy, she went on CNN to promote her book, she called rape sexy, and hit on Anderson Cooper. Do I take this person seriously??? Nope. That doesn't mean I hate all woman.

I think this woman is insulting to actual victims of rape. This woman makes a mockery of it. She disgusts me. I do not at all believe she's a victim. She's a fraud.

And if shes an actual victim of rape youll say she deserved it. Youre in a cult.

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@sargentd said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

You did exactly what I said not to do. It's disgusting how you hate women so much that your default answer to a sexual assault allegation is immediate dismissal and blame.

Typical leftist BS. You say I hate women because I'm openly stating truths. This woman is bat shit crazy, she went on CNN to promote her book, she called rape sexy, and hit on Anderson Cooper. Do I take this person seriously??? Nope. That doesn't mean I hate all woman.

I think this woman is insulting to actual victims of rape. This woman makes a mockery of it. She disgusts me. I do not at all believe she's a victim. She's a fraud.

You're not stating the truth.

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@sargentd said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@sargentd said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

@sargentd: Never write off sexual assault as not criminal dude.

Lying about being raped for money/attention is evil. She wrote herself off going on air sounding like an absolute fraud.

I don't believe her at all. Anyone who actually listened to her objectively should come to the same conclusions.

What she is doing is a slap in the face to actual rape victims. It's disgusting.

You did exactly what I said not to do. It's disgusting how you hate women so much that your default answer to a sexual assault allegation is immediate dismissal and blame.

Typical leftist BS.

Myths about Sexual Assault Reports | Health Promotion | Brown University

False reports of sexual assault are dramatically overestimated. Poorly constructed studies and a lack of understanding of the dynamics of sexual assault contribute to this problem. In rigorous research, rates of false reports are consistently very low, ranging from 2% to 10%. This is similar to rates of false reports for other crimes.

Dumb liberal facts and stats.

@sargentd said:

I think this woman is insulting to actual victims of rape. This woman makes a mockery of it. She disgusts me. I do not at all believe she's a victim. She's a fraud.

The other 17 are frauds and liars too?

Trump has said far crazier shit than her and far more often. Going by your standards he's lying on this matter.

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@zaryia: its E. Jean Carroll's lawsuit against Trump. So yeah I'm going to talk about E. Jean Carroll, Its her case and her accusation. She's the basket case who went on CNN in 2016 to promote her book, who called rape sexy and then hit on Anderson Cooper live on air. Its insane. I don't care if you guys are mad I don't believe her. I don't at all lol You guys who do believe her are so entrenched in hating orange man you will blindly follow anything to make him look bad.

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You can never know for sure what happened, but she being so crazy doesn't help. I also find her hard to trust.

Though the defense of trump is so bad too "she is not my type", like how about saying i would never rape a woman ?

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This is a civil case, not a criminal case...and defamation is at the heart of it.

Multiple other witnesses are going to testify against him for unwanted groping, kissing, etc. He also sunk himself on the Access Hollywood tape by admitting that is what he has done...often.

His lawyer admited to it again yesterday by asking for a witness clarification before trial...from one of the other ladies testifying. The clarification sought: what specific body parts were groped? Or was it just kissing and pressing. I kid you not, that was the tone of filing....as if it matters.

E. Jean Carroll doesn't need to prove that he raped her - let alone beyond a reasonable doubt. She needs to establish a pattern of unwanted sexual advances via other victims testimony and the likelihood he did something similar to her. They can disagree on the severity...that doesn't actually matter.

What matters is whether the jury believes the likelihood of something having happened. It is a defamation case, which is about him trashing her and saying nothing at all happened and that it is all a money grab...sounds like some of the Trump parrots posting here too.

There is a fairly high probability he will be paying $ and apologizing. Then he will go on social media and cry about it....possibly being stupid enough to defame her again :)

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#36  Edited By comp_atkins
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@nirgal said:

You can never know for sure what happened, but she being so crazy doesn't help. I also find her hard to trust.

Though the defense of trump is so bad too "she is not my type", like how about saying i would never rape a woman ?

right? like not being his type is the only reason he wouldn't assault her?

but yeah, carroll is the crazy one here.

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#37  Edited By Planeforger
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All they really need to do is get Trump to give testimony. He'd bury himself without much prompting.

Is this the same defamation case where Trump started waffling about how she enjoyed being sexually assaulted by him?

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#38  Edited By The_Deepblue
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@InEMplease: I don’t misuse language. You can’t cite any misuse.

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#39 Silentchief
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@zaryia said:
@sargentd said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

@sargentd: Never write off sexual assault as not criminal dude.

Lying about being raped for money/attention is evil.

The chances all 20 women are lying is very slim, statistically speaking. Where are your facts/evidence she lied for money?

@sargentd said:

and im laughing at it again because its ridiculous they are trying to use this against Trump again

List of Trump's accusers and their allegations of sexual misconduct - ABC News (go.com)

You are saying all of them are lying? Interesting.

Do you clowns believe in every rape accusation? Guy is a billionaire banging Russian models and you think he's raping big bird?

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#40 LJS9502_basic
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@silentchief: How come he has to pay for it? Also rape/sexual assault is about power. Not desire.

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Lol

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#43  Edited By Zaryia
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Lol

Why does he always have to be an asshole lol? And why would any well adjusted adult like that kind of constant behavior?

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#44  Edited By Zaryia
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Do you clowns believe in every rape accusation?

I never said this, so crossing out the straw-man. I do not believe in every rape accusation. All I said was the chances all 19 women are lying is low going by reliable statistics.

Myths about Sexual Assault Reports | Health Promotion | Brown University

False reports of sexual assault are dramatically overestimated. Poorly constructed studies and a lack of understanding of the dynamics of sexual assault contribute to this problem. In rigorous research, rates of false reports are consistently very low, ranging from 2% to 10%. This is similar to rates of false reports for other crime.

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Guy is a billionaire banging Russian models and you think he's raping big bird?

Weren't Epstein and Weinstein super wealthy people who still sexually assaulted people? Cosby? Where is the logic here. And if we're talking about people in power here's a big old list:

Republican Sexual Predators, Abusers, and Enablers Pt. 41 (dailykos.com)

Rich and/or powerful people can't be rapists now because they can just pay for it? Do you have a source for this stat or perhaps a study? Seems made up.

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This case is just civil and not criminal correct?

I’m wondering how it will interplay with the brewing legal trouble in GEORGIA.

Really can’t believe they will let him run with all the hardcore legal issues

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@Mercenary848: imo that's the strategy, hit him with as many lawsuits as possible to bog Trump down in court going into the 2024 election so it's difficult to campaign.

I think it's going to backfire and boost Trump tho.

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#47 LJS9502_basic
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@sargentd said:

@Mercenary848: imo that's the strategy, hit him with as many lawsuits as possible to bog Trump down in court going into the 2024 election so it's difficult to campaign.

I think it's going to backfire and boost Trump tho.

Hasn't boosted him yet. He still only has his base and that's likely to be all he has. Also these cases have plenty of evidence to support prosecution.

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#48 SargentD
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@zaryia said:
@sargentd said:
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Why does he always have to be an asshole lol? And why would any well adjusted adult like that kind of constant behavior?

I mean if you have people lying that your a rapist and bringing you to court for it... I'd say that enough to want to be an asshole about it.

I just liked that he told the prosecutor he would never pursue her either lmao!!!

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#49  Edited By Zaryia
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@sargentd said:

I mean if you have people lying that

There is no proof of this. You gave your opinion and tossed it off as a fact.

@sargentd said:

I'd say that enough to want to be an asshole about it.

Nah, not in a professional setting like this. He does that a lot, just rude and obnoxious so often. You just seem to like childish asshole behavior. But that's fine, not everyone is normal.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@sargentd said:

@Mercenary848: imo that's the strategy, hit him with as many lawsuits as possible to bog Trump down in court going into the 2024 election so it's difficult to campaign.

I think it's going to backfire and boost Trump tho.

Hasn't boosted him yet. He still only has his base and that's likely to be all he has. Also these cases have plenty of evidence to support prosecution.

Bogus indictment by NY DA Bragg actually did boost Trump BIGLY.

Basically knocked DeSantis into irrelevant territory