Is “Merry Christmas” a microaggression to minorities?

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Poll Is “Merry Christmas” a microaggression to minorities? (66 votes)

Yes it is a holiday of the oppressor 9%
Nope 91%

Well?

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#1 horgen  Moderator
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#2 LJS9502_basic
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In b4 lock

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#4 narlymech
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No it's a microtransaction to gamers.

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#5 deactivated-5c2e78cbd8d85
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No it's a microorganism to biologists.

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#6 Damedius
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Merry Christmas

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#7 SOedipus
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Merry Christmas!

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#8 mattbbpl  Online
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I'm including this in my list of Festivus grievances.

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#9  Edited By TryIt
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no

AND

-Santa is not Jesus

-the christmas tree comes purely from pagan tradition

-Jesus is not a nationalist so when we say 'minority' we must mean world wide. thus

-so called 'minorities' are not the minority

-AND many so called 'minorities' are christian

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#10 sealionact
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@undefined: Who cares. Merry Christmas.

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#11 Treflis
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"Happy nondescript winter season holiday that you may or may not celebrate in whatever capacity that is normal to you."

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#12 DEVILinIRON
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It shouldn't be. Still, I use "Happy Holidays" when I think someone might be sensitive.

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#13 nepu7supastar7
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@narlymech:

"No it's a microtransaction to gamers."

LOL ? It's funny because it's true!!

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#14  Edited By speedfreak48t5p
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Wtf is this shit?

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#15  Edited By TryIt
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@DEVILinIRON said:

It shouldn't be. Still, I use "Happy Holidays" when I think someone might be sensitive.

just to spread the word a bit

-Jesus is not a nationalist so when we say 'minority' we must mean world wide. thus

-so called 'minorities' are not the minority

-AND many so called 'minorities' are christian

AND

-Santa is not Jesus

-the christmas tree comes purely from pagan tradition

-oh and nobody cares about peoples SJW snowflake fit over friggin gender of your damn cookies

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I say “Happy Holidays” to old people just to trigger them.

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#17  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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Micro Agression everyone !

I mean Merry Christmas !

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#18 LordQuorthon
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No. I can't link properly, but here you go: https://twitter.com/Ahmadinejad1956/status/1077287938839531520

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#19 Master_Live
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Yes!

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#20 vl4d_l3nin
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Why not.

Merry Christmas everyone. Remember to talk about politics at the dinner table tonight.

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#21 TryIt
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@vl4d_l3nin said:

Why not.

Merry Christmas everyone. Remember to talk about politics at the dinner table tonight.

should I mention that jesus was not a nationalist and as a result so called 'minorities' are not the minority and many of them are christian as well. I also might bring up how the Christmas tree is a pagan symbol and how the SJW snowflakes and the right are outraged that their sexual identity appears to be under attack by cookies?

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#23 dark_drag765
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@Baconstrip78:

Yeah picking on the elderly is fun because most are antisemitic

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#24 CreasianDevaili
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@Baconstrip78:

Yeah picking on the elderly is fun because most are antisemitic

Isn't that where a lot of antisemitic come from? Including racism, sexism, etc? I'm not talking about the elderly.

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#25 deeliman
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It's not, but I do think you're a bit of an inconsiderate ass if you say merry christmas to someone that you know doesn't celebrate christmas.

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#26 LJS9502_basic
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@deeliman said:

It's not, but I do think you're a bit of an inconsiderate ass if you say merry christmas to someone that you know doesn't celebrate christmas.

Why? If someone wished me Happy Hanukah I'd respond in kind and not get bent out of shape over it. That's just looking to be offended.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@deeliman said:

It's not, but I do think you're a bit of an inconsiderate ass if you say merry christmas to someone that you know doesn't celebrate christmas.

Why? If someone wished me Happy Hanukah I'd respond in kind and not get bent out of shape over it. That's just looking to be offended.

I would not be insulted but I would be dismissive

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#28 LJS9502_basic
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@tryit said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@deeliman said:

It's not, but I do think you're a bit of an inconsiderate ass if you say merry christmas to someone that you know doesn't celebrate christmas.

Why? If someone wished me Happy Hanukah I'd respond in kind and not get bent out of shape over it. That's just looking to be offended.

I would not be insulted but I would be dismissive

Okay. You're arrogant. Why did you feel the need to tell me that?

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@tryit said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@deeliman said:

It's not, but I do think you're a bit of an inconsiderate ass if you say merry christmas to someone that you know doesn't celebrate christmas.

Why? If someone wished me Happy Hanukah I'd respond in kind and not get bent out of shape over it. That's just looking to be offended.

I would not be insulted but I would be dismissive

Okay. You're arrogant. Why did you feel the need to tell me that?

because I am arrogant I suppose.

I personally think religion is a bad thing a very very very bad thing.

so dismissive is being generous

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#30 LJS9502_basic
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@tryit: Like I said. Arrogance.

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@LJS9502_basic said:

@tryit: Like I said. Arrogance.

What if I am right though? what if religion really is very very bad. does that still make me arrogant? or do you just call anyone you disagree with as 'arrogant' despite the facts?

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#32 LJS9502_basic
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@tryit said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

@tryit: Like I said. Arrogance.

What if I am right though? what if religion really is very very bad. does that still make me arrogant? or do you just call anyone you disagree with as 'arrogant' despite the facts?

People are bad. Most religions give a general guidance toward a good life. For instance Christianity which I am most familiar with tells you to love your neighbor and to help your neighbor. That is the precept of Christianity. Now humans ignore that and do bad things.......but that is on the humans. The vast majority of conflicts in the world throughout history are caused by selfishness and greed.

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#33  Edited By TryIt
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@tryit said:
@LJS9502_basic said:

@tryit: Like I said. Arrogance.

What if I am right though? what if religion really is very very bad. does that still make me arrogant? or do you just call anyone you disagree with as 'arrogant' despite the facts?

People are bad. Most religions give a general guidance toward a good life. For instance Christianity which I am most familiar with tells you to love your neighbor and to help your neighbor. That is the precept of Christianity. Now humans ignore that and do bad things.......but that is on the humans. The vast majority of conflicts in the world throughout history are caused by selfishness and greed.

completely disagree

so with that if you do not fucking mind when someone of religion tells me happy (their holiday) please let me be dismissive about it without you being a dick about it.

I dont want to have anything to do with religion so the least I can ask if for religious pepole to **** off with their religious reference without calling me 'arrogant' for not accepting it as in a grateful matter.

talk about the pinnacle of arrogance! Jesus fucking christ how insulting

Arrogance defined: If I am religious and I come to you and wish you happy (religious day) you should be grateful. dismissive is being extremely rude. ok well then I will do the act of pretending to be grateful so that you will not be offended

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#34 LJS9502_basic
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@tryit: You stuck your bigoted opinion in MY post. I did not address yours. I gave an example of being civil to other people with beliefs I do not share and you couldn't wait to display your arrogance at other people's beliefs. Making YOU the problem. In the future if you're going to be nasty then don't discuss anything with me. I do not like discussing things with those filled with hate. Sure you don't support trump? Because your attitude aligns with his.

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@LJS9502_basic said:

@tryit: You stuck your bigoted opinion in MY post. I did not address yours. I gave an example of being civil to other people with beliefs I do not share and you couldn't wait to display your arrogance at other people's beliefs. Making YOU the problem. In the future if you're going to be nasty then don't discuss anything with me. I do not like discussing things with those filled with hate. Sure you don't support trump? Because your attitude aligns with his.

Arrogance defined: If I am religious and I come to you and wish you happy (religious day) you should be grateful. dismissive is being extremely rude. ok well then I will do the act of pretending to be grateful so that you will not be offended

that is snowflaking as well. I have to alter my actions when you come to me and wishing me a happy holiday so that you will not get offended, I have to be careful and just wait for you to fucking leave.

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#36 LJS9502_basic
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@tryit:

I see why everyone calls you a troll.

Also your posts break the ToU.

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#37  Edited By Lach0121
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@LJS9502_basic: Dismissing irrational beliefs isn't even half as arrogant as that of any religion, or most religious people.

All religions preach hate, or oppression. Christianity is no different, peaceful Christianity is a modern fraud. If you think any of the Abrahamic faiths are really about loving your fellow human, then more actual study of such faith, and their history, is needed.

That said, I hope everyone a better year than the last, no matter what mythology one may believe.

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#38  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@LJS9502_basic: is not being half as arrogant in stating that as any religion, or most religious people. Secondly he is NOT wrong.

So where is the proof of that? Most religious people go about their daily lives as any other person does. Also historically he is wrong. Most conflicts in the world are not religious conflicts. Per the encyclopedia of war only approximately 10% were religious. That means 90% are other reasons. What do you think that is? There are militant atheists the paint religion with a broad brush and ignore facts. They have no respect for anyone and don't care if they believe stereotypes. I do not like bigots of any stripe. He's a bigot.

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@LJS9502_basic said:

@tryit:

I see why everyone calls you a troll.

Also your posts break the ToU.

we are done talking now

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#40 LJS9502_basic
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@tryit: Been done. Stop quoting me.

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#41  Edited By Lach0121
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@LJS9502_basic: I won't carry this on especially with bs like militant atheist being thrown around.

However most wars are classified under economical reasons. Even the ones of deep religious nature as religion has been so heavily ingrained in the governments of the past. Slavery in the United States was ushered in with Christianity at the helm, and the even the Civil war is an economical one. Slavery being the mechanism of that.

Also the grand majority of atheist are decent people, without the need of a bs carrot on a stick to keep them that way.

I won't carry this on anymore, and just as I edited in to my post above that you ninja quoted before I could make the edits... Have a good upcoming year.

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@LJS9502_basic: I won't carry this on especially with bs like militant atheist being thrown around.

However most wars are classified under economical reasons. Even the ones of deep religious nature as religion has been so heavily ingrained in the governments of the past. Slavery in the United States was ushered in with Christianity at the helm, and the even the Civil war is an economical one. Slavery being the mechanism of that. Also the grand majority of atheist are decent people, without the need of a bs carrot on a stick to keep them that way.

I won't carry this on anymore, and just as I edited in to my post above that you ninja quoted before I could make the edits... Have a good upcoming year.

and the thing is all I said is that I would be dismissive.

but that is not polite enough, no, if a religious person comes to you and wishes you a happy religious holiday you have to be grateful and honest as such, not just polite waiting for them to leave, that is not good enough.

ticks me off. If people do their relgious thing I just ignore it, but noooooo not good enough.

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@LJS9502_basic: I won't carry this on especially with bs like militant atheist being thrown around.

However most wars are classified under economical reasons. Even the ones of deep religious nature as religion has been so heavily ingrained in the governments of the past. Slavery in the United States was ushered in with Christianity at the helm, and the even the Civil war is an economical one. Slavery being the mechanism of that.

Also the grand majority of atheist are decent people, without the need of a bs carrot on a stick to keep them that way.

I won't carry this on anymore, and just as I edited in to my post above that you ninja quoted before I could make the edits... Have a good upcoming year.

Now you're making excuses. And there are, in fact, two kinds of atheists. Militant atheists that spend time denigrating the beliefs of others and atheists that have their personal beliefs that don't "dismiss" other individuals the right to form their own beliefs.

You're going to have to provide some evidence that slavery is a Christian concept because it's been around much longer than Christianity. It is an economic institution.

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I like how this dumb thread still managed to resort in a fight.

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#45  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@tryit: STOP quoting me.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@Lach0121 said:

@LJS9502_basic: I won't carry this on especially with bs like militant atheist being thrown around.

However most wars are classified under economical reasons. Even the ones of deep religious nature as religion has been so heavily ingrained in the governments of the past. Slavery in the United States was ushered in with Christianity at the helm, and the even the Civil war is an economical one. Slavery being the mechanism of that.

Also the grand majority of atheist are decent people, without the need of a bs carrot on a stick to keep them that way.

I won't carry this on anymore, and just as I edited in to my post above that you ninja quoted before I could make the edits... Have a good upcoming year.

Now you're making excuses. And there are, in fact, two kinds of atheists. Militant atheists that spend time denigrating the beliefs of others and atheists that have their personal beliefs that don't "dismiss" other individuals the right to form their own beliefs.

You're going to have to provide some evidence that slavery is a Christian concept because it's been around much longer than Christianity. It is an economic institution.

'dismiss' in the context of what i said simply means 'I smile back and them and say thank you and walk away'

that is not 'militant'

but what you want is not that, you want an atheist to be grateful that you come to them and wish them a happy holiday. that is arrogant.

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#47  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@tryit said:

'dismiss' in the context of what i said simply means 'I smile back and them and say thank you and walk away'

that is not 'militant'

but what you want is not that, you want an atheist to be grateful that you come to them and wish them a happy holiday. that is arrogant.

You're still engaging. I thought you went all snowflake and said you were done. Dismiss is a negative connotation of arrogance. You replied to my answer that I would be pleasant and decent to someone with differing beliefs offering a nice gesture that means something to them. I don't know why you have to be so ignorant but it is what it is. I don't "dismiss" people trying to be nice.

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I like how this dumb thread still managed to resort in a fight.

Also I'm bored and he was unpleasant.

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#48  Edited By TryIt
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@tryit said:

'dismiss' in the context of what i said simply means 'I smile back and them and say thank you and walk away'

that is not 'militant'

but what you want is not that, you want an atheist to be grateful that you come to them and wish them a happy holiday. that is arrogant.

You're still engaging. I thought you went all snowflake and said you were done. Dismiss is a negative connotation of arrogance. You replied to my answer that I would be pleasant and decent to someone with differing beliefs offering a nice gesture that means something to them. I don't know why you have to be so ignorant but it is what it is. I don't "dismiss" people trying to be nice.

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I like how this dumb thread still managed to resort in a fight.

Also I'm bored and he was unpleasant.

well regardless of what 'dismissive' means here is what I meant by using the word

'I am polite, I say thank you, I leave as soon as its polite to do so because I really do not want to be a part of it'

you find that 'militant'?

you dont find someone feeling that doing such a thing is insulting is not being a 'snowflake'?

seriously?

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@LJS9502_basic: Christianity didn't invent slavery. It used it as a mechanism to enslave black people in the US. Reading history books other than those written in Texas, and books about socioeconomics (including slavery) will tell you that religion has largely been the mechanism to enslave a people.

Militant is not dismissing irrational beliefs, those that demand others to respect their irrational beliefs are the ones being militant.

But I am done, good day sir.

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@Lach0121 said:

@LJS9502_basic: Christianity didn't invent slavery. It used it as a mechanism to enslave black people in the US. Reading history books other than those written in Texas, and books about socioeconomics (including slavery) will tell you that religion has largely been the mechanism to enslave a people.

Militant is not dismissing irrational beliefs, those that demand others to respect their irrational beliefs are the ones being militant.

But I am done, good day sir.

Slavery was a British, Dutch, Africa to US thing. Yes reading history books would be a boon for you.

And again religion has not been the mechanism to enslave people. Throughout history it's been economic. Also a means to have cheap labor when conquest happened. The vanquished were either killed or enslaved.

Militant is not allowing other people to have their beliefs. Period. No one really cares what YOU believe. Why are so bent out of shape over what someone else believes?