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#1  Edited By GhostOfGolden
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Verdict:

After speaking with the entire DF team and based on the experiences of playing both games, we've decided that Gran Turismo 7 gets the nod as the more visually striking game of the two. This isn't even about hardware performance - GT7 could run on Series X hardware just as Forza could run on a PS5.

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#2  Edited By hardwenzen  Online
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I don't know what is up with colors, maybe shading, but Forza reminds me of legos. If this is their approach on photorealism, one that took them 7 years, they have royally failed. Then again, i wouldn't expect anything more when its made for Gamepass.

12tflops for what? Certainly not visuals, or maybe there's no talent left at Microsoft, that's another possibility.

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#3 SolidGame_basic
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inb4 Lems pretend this doesn’t bother them

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#4  Edited By KvallyX
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Incoming cow meltdown

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#6 Heil68
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Gran Turismo 7 is the clear winner, which everyone already knew. It's just nice to see that fact reported by a reputable, unbiased source.

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#7 Archangel3371
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Personally I prefer the Forza Motorsport games over the Gran Turismo games. Something about the GT games just kind of doesn’t click with me and I just end up dropping out of them. Not so with FM though. Just always have a great time playing them. The new FM is still a fantastic looking game, certainly good enough for me to keep playing and enjoying it.

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#8 GhostOfGolden
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@kvallyx: You’re really posting tweets from someone with “Welcome ABK 💜“ in their name?

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@kvallyx said:

Incoming cow meltdown

What a cancer of a twitter.

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@Heil68 said:

Gran Turismo 7 is the clear winner, which everyone already knew. It's just nice to see that fact reported by a reputable, unbiased source.

Let’s not get carried away 😂

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I prefer GTs more stylised visuals.

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#12 Zero_epyon
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I could have told you that GT7 > Forza visually in less than an hour lol

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Surprising

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@Heil68 said:

Gran Turismo 7 is the clear winner, which everyone already knew. It's just nice to see that fact reported by a reputable, unbiased source.

Not just graphically either, but the VR mode is great. Where’s Forza’s mode??

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I saw video in my feed but havent watched it. I already know the outcome depending on who made the video.

John Linneman - GT7, he's been fanboying about the game since it was announced.

Rich - Forza. He has praised forza for its technical graphics rather than aesthetics and has complained that GT7 was too clean

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#16  Edited By Randy_Lahey
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Built from the ground up! Increased trackside detail! Ray tracing!

Loses to a ps4 game lmao! The state of Xbox

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GT7 looks better, sold better and, reviewed better.

The trifecta.

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@navyguy21 said:

I saw video in my feed but havent watched it. I already know the outcome depending on who made the video.

John Linneman - GT7, he's been fanboying about the game since it was announced.

Rich - Forza. He has praised forza for its technical graphics rather than aesthetics and has complained that GT7 was too clean

The verdict was made by the DF team, not a single staff member.

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@kvallyx said:

Incoming cow meltdown

Imagine having WELCOME ABK with a heart in your name. Literally mentally unstable.

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@ghostofgolden said:
@navyguy21 said:

I saw video in my feed but havent watched it. I already know the outcome depending on who made the video.

John Linneman - GT7, he's been fanboying about the game since it was announced.

Rich - Forza. He has praised forza for its technical graphics rather than aesthetics and has complained that GT7 was too clean

The verdict was made by the DF team, not a single staff member.

That may be the case, but who narrated the video? Who wrote the article/script?

Honest question as I havent watched it.

Ive followed DF since the very beginning and know how John, Rich and Alex are.

The others, not so much. Am I wrong about the result?

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@navyguy21 said:

I saw video in my feed but havent watched it. I already know the outcome depending on who made the video.

John Linneman - GT7, he's been fanboying about the game since it was announced.

Rich - Forza. He has praised forza for its technical graphics rather than aesthetics and has complained that GT7 was too clean

The way I see this. This is a Draw!

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Arguing over which racing game looks best🤦‍♂️

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@ghostofgolden said:

@kvallyx: You’re really posting tweets from someone with “Welcome ABK 💜“ in their name?

But the important part is the video accuracy. I can confirm the content of those videos 👍

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#24  Edited By KvallyX
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@Nonstop-Madness said:

GT7 looks better, sold better and, reviewed better.

The trifecta.

Link to official Forza sales. Thanks 🙏

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#25  Edited By Nonstop-Madness
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@kvallyx:

You know Microsoft doesnt shared sales data. But, more importantly, they haven't shared player count either because it bombed.

It released in October and, it was the 17th best selling game that month in the US.

GT7, on the other hand, launched at no. 2 behind Elden Ring in the US. It was the 13th best selling game YTD in 2022 in the US and the 10th best in Europe. In terms of 2023, it was a top 20 best selling game in the US in both August and, September.

So yeah, ... the trifecta.

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#26 dabear
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@ghostofgolden: DF has become shills for Sony.

I no longer care what they say.

Forza > GT. That's true today the same way its always been.

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@last_lap said:

Arguing over which racing game looks best🤦‍♂️

Guess which looks better? GT7, a game you can't play😭😭😭

Telling you, sell your shitbox and get a PLAYSTATION 5. Its a beautiful thing, and believe me when i tell you that we will accept you with open arms (but you will need to defend our exclusives as ferociously as you can. If you fail to do so, you will be kicked from the Sony Professionals clan).

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#28 blaznwiipspman1
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@kvallyx: end thread, cows are rekkd.

Plus I don't trust John lineman o4 the df crew at all when it comes to these things, they are a paid publication and the facts are that they are paid from clicks, and sponsorship ads, which is heavily tilted in favor of Playstation. Frankly, DF isn't big enough as a channel to not shill...they have no choice but put out these click bait videos in favor of Sony. In reality, they know that 12 tflop >>> 9 tflop oc to 10.28, it's not even close.

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#29 GirlUSoCrazy
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An hour long! That's a very detailed look at both of these games. Car and game enthusiasts both have some interesting things to look at here.

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Is GT on PC?

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#32  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@Stevo_the_gamer said:

Is GT on PC?

It was listed on Nvidia GeForce leak indicating GT7 will come to PC at some point. Rumors suggest GT7 will likely come in Summer/Fall of 2024.

If you really want something closer to GT, Assetto Corsa is as close to GT as we'll ever gonna get...until GT7 comes to PC that is.

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Looking at the review above, i find it funny how some are still in denial about MS exclusives seeing a massive downgrade in quality ever since their titles began to be made for gamepass in mind. I holy shit, i wasn't following Forza because its a racing game, and i couldn't give a damn about racing titles, but hearing him point out THIS MANY issues, and the fact that its a massive downgrade from previous titles is real something.

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@davillain said:
@Stevo_the_gamer said:

Is GT on PC?

It was listed on Nvidia GeForce leak indicating GT7 will come to PC at some point. Rumors suggest GT7 will likely come in Summer/Fall of 2024.

If you really want something closer to GT, Assetto Corsa is as close to GT as we'll ever gonna get...until GT7 comes to PC that is.

Well, until then... 4K 60+ fps on PC will be the winner.

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GT7 is playable in VR and it’s incredible. There’s no debate here Forza loses horribly.

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#36 ENI232
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Gt was on PS4 also and is still better?!!????!! Let's wait for a PS5 only gt for a final showdown.

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Jimbo Ryan is out. You can stop dreaming about my exclusives coming to pc.

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#38 daredevils2k
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Man DF slap the sh!t out of the lems with the new of GT7 owning Forza

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#39  Edited By sakaiXx
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GT7, a cross gen title sharing with PS4 slapped Forza "build from the ground up" motorsport lmao. how can a release be this mediocre its incredible. Xbox really needs to figure out an improvement process with their internal teams how can most of xbox first party studio releases ended up underwhelming in many departments.

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@Nonstop-Madness said:

@kvallyx:

You know Microsoft doesnt shared sales data. But, more importantly, they haven't shared player count either because it bombed.

It released in October and, it was the 17th best selling game that month in the US.

GT7, on the other hand, launched at no. 2 behind Elden Ring in the US. It was the 13th best selling game YTD in 2022 in the US and the 10th best in Europe. In terms of 2023, it was a top 20 best selling game in the US in both August and, September.

So yeah, ... the trifecta.

Also player engagements remained high for GT7 confirmed by the studio head.

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Every time i come by this thread, i feel bad, and feel the pain of our lemmings. Its just such a shame if you ask me.

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@hardwenzen: Insert yawning gif here.

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@hardwenzen said:

I don't know what is up with colors, maybe shading, but Forza reminds me of legos. If this is their approach on photorealism, one that took them 7 years, they have royally failed. Then again, i wouldn't expect anything more when its made for Gamepass.

12tflops for what? Certainly not visuals, or maybe there's no talent left at Microsoft, that's another possibility.

The problem with what you said is, that GT7 took WAY longer, 9 years and only looks as good as Forza Motorsport 7 maxed on the PC. FM looks the same, but at least that wasn't designed around the Jag CPU. Looks like GT7 "royally failed" too.

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I will say that GT has the better lighting engine, but it always has. Even in the old games it was the lighting engine which made it visually stand out.

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DF are Sony shills so not surprised by the result.

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I was completely underwhelmed with the visual fidelity of Forza Motorsport 8, even with the monster RTX 4090.

All maxed out and honestly didn't look impressive. Nor did it perform particularly well lol.

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Of course GT7 is better in almost every single way. A cross-gen game beat the shit out of a next gen game which was built from the "ground up" for Xbox Series.

Big L for Xbox

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@davillain said:
@Stevo_the_gamer said:

Is GT on PC?

It was listed on Nvidia GeForce leak indicating GT7 will come to PC at some point. Rumors suggest GT7 will likely come in Summer/Fall of 2024.

If you really want something closer to GT, Assetto Corsa is as close to GT as we'll ever gonna get...until GT7 comes to PC that is.

Forza is on PC and closer to Assetto than GT ever would be.

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#49 KvallyX
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@Nonstop-Madness said:

@kvallyx:

You know Microsoft doesnt shared sales data.

Thank you for finally being honest.

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#50 BenjaminBanklin
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Once again, I don't even like racing sims but this is pretty amusing. GT7 was a crossgen game while Forza was the "next-gen experience", and it still got left in the dust.

LOL! Forza still looks pretty good in motion. If you have the hardware, it should be hard to screw up a car game visually. 🤷‍♂️