Reason why Halo became such a big success on consoles was because

it successfully brought a lot of gameplay features, that were exclusive to PC games, onto consoles. It was probably due to Halo being a PC/Mac game before Microsoft got their dirty hands on Bungie XD. Anyways, Halo: CE and Halo 2 was probably one of the most PC-centric games on consoles.

If Halo did remain a PC/Mac exclusive game, it probably wouldn't be as big as it is now. Why?? Because Halo: CE and Halo 2 wasn't anything big compared to other PC games at the time. It would have recieved the good game status, Halo: CE especially, but not the "GOD-LIKE" status that Xbox gamers make it out to be.

Agree or Disagree?

it successfully brought a lot of features, that were exclusive to PC games, onto consoles. It was probably due to Halo being a PC/Mac game before Microsoft got their dirty hands on Bungie XD. Anyways, Halo: CE and Halo 2 was probably one of the most PC-centric games on consoles.

If Halo did remain a PC/Mac exclusive game, it probably wouldn't be as big as it is now. Why?? Because Halo: CE and Halo 2 wasn't anything big compared to other PC games at the time. It would have recieved the good game status, but not the "GOD-LIKE" status that Xbox gamers make it out to be.

Agree or Disagree?

ShadowDeathX

It was just how Call of Duty is this gen. CoD offers a PC-like experiecne on consoles because of the higher frame rate and super responsive controls (at the cost of having embarrassing amounts of aim assist due to the lack of precision on gamepads). To PC gamers neither of things are a big deal, but consoles players eat it up and when another FPS doesn't fell the same way, they will dismiss it

I think you're selling Halo a tad bit short. Halo was amazing on Xbox when it first came out. It even had graphics that rivaled, but did not surpass, PC. I was a big gamer back then, and Halo was a huge deal, and it wasn't just because it was a FPS done right on consoles. Other FPS games with the same control scheme had been released already like Red Faction, but Halo had the tight controls, 2 weapon limit, amazing and expansive levels, great story, amazing gameplay, multiplayer to die for, accessible LAN parties, you name it. Halo was and still is the ****.

I have to agree. Halo is the only exclusive I've played that could actually work as a PC game... and I'm not sure if it was because it started on PC and had that PC "feel" or if it is just a game that lends itself really well to PC.

(I'm going to ignore the PC ports because they were absolutly terrible ports that ruined the games which were fine on console) But anyway, Microsoft really missed out on the PC audiences there and probbaly blame piracy and the platform for poor sales on PC. >_>

I think you're selling Halo a tad bit short. Halo was amazing on Xbox when it first came out. It even had graphics that rivaled, but did not surpass, PC. I was a big gamer back then, and Halo was a huge deal, and it wasn't just because it was a FPS done right on consoles. Other FPS games with the same control scheme had been released already like Red Faction, but Halo had the tight controls, 2 weapon limit, amazing and expansive levels, great story, amazing gameplay, multiplayer to die for, accessible LAN parties, you name it. Halo was and still is the ****.

arkephonic

So golden eye didn't exist?

I have to agree. Halo is the only exclusive I've played that could actually work as a PC game... and I'm not sure if it was because it started on PC and had that PC "feel" or if it is just a game that lends itself really well to PC.

(I'm going to ignore the PC ports because they were absolutly terrible ports that ruined the games which were fine on console) But anyway, Microsoft really missed out on the PC audiences there and probbaly blame piracy and the platform for poor sales on PC. >_>

DigitalExile

Lets not forget how long M$ made us wait for those ports a long with the OS/DX exclusive crap

I think Halo would still have been very successful because they are excellent games, though the level of worship it got at the beginning of this generation was just... bizarre.

I think Halo would still have been very successful because they are excellent games, though the level of worship it got at the beginning of this generation was just... bizarre.

PraetorianMan

For the lolz

You're selling Halo way short.

It still remains to this day the most compareable FPS on consoles to top-tier PC-quality (and surpasses many), and it's incredibly feature-rich too.

If Halo did remain a PC/Mac exclusive game, it probably wouldn't be as big as it is now. Why?? Because Halo: CE and Halo 2 wasn't anything big compared to other PC games at the time.

Agree or Disagree?

ShadowDeathX

Blatantly disagree.

Halo canon >>>>>> all.

That's why I've beaten the Halo 2 campaign 178 times and only played 47 total matches for Halo 2. Same for the other Halos save the numbers.

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]

If Halo did remain a PC/Mac exclusive game, it probably wouldn't be as big as it is now. Why?? Because Halo: CE and Halo 2 wasn't anything big compared to other PC games at the time.

Agree or Disagree?

Spartan070

Blatantly disagree.

Halo canon >>>>>> all.

That's why I've beaten the Halo 2 campaign 178 times and only played 47 total matches for Halo 2. Same for the other Halos save the numbers.

all the halos were godlike. except 3, lets forget about that one please. and the campaign in 2mems_1224

Halo changed the way FPS's were made and played.fast_sonic

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]all the halos were godlike. except 3, lets forget about that one please. and the campaign in 2Spartan070

[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]all the halos were godlike. except 3, lets forget about that one please. and the campaign in 2mems_1224

Disagree.

Halo:CE was unique at the time of it's release. Not original or groundbreaking in every way, but even if it had been made as a PC/Mac game, it would not have suffered for it. The game brought together the best elements of many of the games that came before it, coupled that with great atmosphere and finished with unrivaled playability.

I get the impression that you aren't quite old enough to understand just what FPS games were like in the 90's and early 00's.

It was Because Halo:CE was such an amazing game back in 2001.....

i agree

if Halo was PC exclusive, it wouldnt be as succesful (without Microsofts huge marketing budget), but still very succesful none the less, most likely above Doom and Unreal etc, but just below Half Life and Counter strike

Halo is still a great game, heaps of people still play Halo 1 on PC and its a crappy console port, sadly no one plays Halo 2 on PC because of LOL vista exclusive, lol GFWL, lol gimped mod tools, lol high requirements (was very poorly optimized, ran like crap for an Xbox port), lol built in auto aim, lol monthly fee (at least MS removed it later on)

if Halo was multiplat it would be on par with COD, but MS of course wont have that

Lets not forget how long M$ made us wait for those ports a long with the OS/DX exclusive crap

NoodleFighter

[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]all the halos were godlike. except 3, lets forget about that one please. and the campaign in 2mems_1224

Halo didnt invent anything... (inb4 someone comments on my name)

2 weapon limit was done in CS

sheilds and regen health was done in tribes (i think, havent played tribes 2 in years)

big enviroments were done in Unreal and tribes

Halo didnt invent good stories in shooters, Half Life and AVP2 both had good stories (ill have to say Half life 1 was better aswell)

Tribes did vehicles

what Halo did well was chuck all these ideas into 1 game and blend them perfectly

it successfully brought a lot of gameplay features, that were exclusive to PC games, onto consoles. It was probably due to Halo being a PC/Mac game before Microsoft got their dirty hands on Bungie XD. Anyways, Halo: CE and Halo 2 was probably one of the most PC-centric games on consoles.

If Halo did remain a PC/Mac exclusive game, it probably wouldn't be as big as it is now. Why?? Because Halo: CE and Halo 2 wasn't anything big compared to other PC games at the time. It would have recieved the good game status, Halo: CE especially, but not the "GOD-LIKE" status that Xbox gamers make it out to be.

Agree or Disagree?

ShadowDeathX

only fps avalible from 11-15-2001 to 11-15-2002 on xbox.

Halo didnt invent anything... (inb4 someone comments on my name)

2 weapon limit was done in CS

sheilds and regen health was done in tribes (i think, havent played tribes 2 in years)

big enviroments were done in Unreal and tribes

Halo didnt invent good stories in shooters, Half Life and AVP2 both had good stories (ill have to say Half life 1 was better aswell)

Tribes did vehicles

what Halo did well was chuck all these ideas into 1 game and blend them perfectly

HaloinventedFPS

This.

...since it's pretty much what I already said.

I don't know why Halo became such a huge success. Maybe you're right TC. All I know is that I have had some of the most fun with shooters playing the Halo games.cloudff7tm

best shooter on console and microsofts huge budget

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

Halo didnt invent anything... (inb4 someone comments on my name)

2 weapon limit was done in CS

sheilds and regen health was done in tribes (i think, havent played tribes 2 in years)

big enviroments were done in Unreal and tribes

Halo didnt invent good stories in shooters, Half Life and AVP2 both had good stories (ill have to say Half life 1 was better aswell)

Tribes did vehicles

what Halo did well was chuck all these ideas into 1 game and blend them perfectly

Assassin_87

This.

...since it's pretty much what I already said.

indeed, i was just explaning it more, most console gamers dont even know what tribes on unreal 1 is

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Spartan070"] :o The Arbiter is the greatest character in gaming history, Halo 2 campaign ruled imo lolDigitalExile

Disagree. Halo: Combat Evolved was amazing, regardless of platform.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]all the halos were godlike. except 3, lets forget about that one please. and the campaign in 2Spartan070

[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]all the halos were godlike. except 3, lets forget about that one please. and the campaign in 2percech

Thank you for stating the obvious TC. :P

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Spartan070"] :o The Arbiter is the greatest character in gaming history, Halo 2 campaign ruled imo lolmems_1224

Yeah, it's not a bad level at all. In fact it was very spooky and atmospheric.

Thank you for stating the obvious TC. :P

NeonNinja

Not only was it originally planned for PC but also started off as a RTS :shock:

Anyhoo, suffice to say, Halo is the greatest shooter on the planet. :P

GameSpot wouldn't have given it a 9.0 on PC a year after its original release if it wasn't anything special. Halo changed the way FPS's were made and played.fast_sonic

It was so successful on the consoles because it was an absolutely fantastic game built with the consoles in mind from the ground up.

It was one of the first games to successfully combine the linear shooting/military feel found in games like Medal Of Honor with the arena shooting of Unreal and Quake. The speed of the game was built exclusively for a controller. Things like the dedicated melee and grenade button were excellent additions which moved away from having to select a dedicated melee weapon which was just clunky on a controller.

The level design took advantage of the slower pace giving the player more diverse terrain to fight in. The AI was also the best AI we've ever seen in an FPS. They used the levels to their advantage, had different personalities, and would work together.

The vehicles were also sort of a revolution. They were seamlessly integrated with the gameplay and really felt like they were a part of the environment. This was a big step for FPSs as most FPSs with vehicles up until that point always featured dedicated vehicle sections or the vehicles felt disconnected from the game world.

The regenerating health also played into the pace of the game. Since the game wasn't moving a mile a second they could get away with the player having to take cover from time to time. This mechanic played straight into the varied environments. Instead of big, flat and open terrain featured in PC shooters, Halo had a lot of hills and whatnot for players to get away from enemies and use the terrain to cover themselves. This forced them to think of a mechanic that would allow a player to survive longer when they couldn't move as fast. Thus the regenerating health instead of health pick ups.

The games focus was also not on suriving and action/adventure like a lot of the FPSs before it. As I said, it was more like Medal of Honor where the goal was to just clear the level of enemies and get to the end. Regenerating health kept the focus on the fighting and away from scrouging for life. It was a different mechanic that was bulit for the slower pace of the game.

PC gamers hated on it because it was a bit slower pace than the PC games that they were playing at the time. This was also a time where PC gamers didn't play console games like they do today. They didn't fully understand you couldn't have a game with the pace of Unreal or Quake work very well on the consoles. Bungie knew this and built the whole game with a controller in mind. Most FPSs built on the console until then were attempting to be like PC shooters in every way possible. This only hampered them.

A two weapon limit (only seen in the Ghost Recon and Rainbow Six series), dedicated grenade and melee button, seamless vehicles, slower pace, large, static aiming reticules, uncompromised split-screen co-op, and 4 player split screen competitive play with totally custom gameplay options really made Halo what it was. The fact that they didn't try to make it like other PC shooters where you could carry an endless supply of weapons, had to equip your grenades or your melee weapon to use them, have to fast of a pace, and have reticule bloom were all a part of why Halo was so damn successful. It was an FPS made for the Xbox. That's why PC people didn't like it, it wasn't a PC shooter in any way.

It was so successful on the consoles because it was an absolutely fantastic game built with the consoles in mind from the ground up.

It was one of the first games to successfully combine the linear shooting/military feel found in games like Medal Of Honor with the arena shooting of Unreal and Quake. The speed of the game was built exclusively for a controller. Things like the dedicated melee and grenade button were excellent additions which moved away from having to select a dedicated melee weapon which was just clunky on a controller.

The level design took advantage of the slower pace giving the player more diverse terrain to fight in. The AI was also the best AI we've ever seen in an FPS. They used the levels to their advantage, had different personalities, and would work together.

The vehicles were also sort of a revolution. They were seamlessly integrated with the gameplay and really felt like they were a part of the environment. This was a big step for FPSs as most FPSs with vehicles up until that point always featured dedicated vehicle sections or the vehicles felt disconnected from the game world.

PC gamers hated on it because it was a bit slower pace than the PC games that they were playing at the time. This was also a time where PC gamers didn't play console games like they do today. They didn't fully understand you couldn't have a game with the pace of Unreal or Quake work very well on the consoles. Bungie knew this and built the whole game with a controller in mind. Most FPSs built on the console until then were attempting to be like PC shooters in every way possible. This only hampered them.

A two weapon limit (only seen in the Ghost Recon and Rainbow Six series), dedicated grenade and melee button, seamless vehicles, slower pace, large, static aiming reticules, uncompromised split-screen co-op, and 4 player split screen competitive play with totally custom gameplay options really made Halo what it was. The fact that they didn't try to make it like other PC shooters where you could carry an endless supply of weapons, had to equip your grenades or your melee weapon to use them, have to fast of a pace, and have reticule bloom were all a part of why Halo was so damn successful. It was an FPS made for the Xbox. That's why PC people didn't like it, it wasn't a PC shooter in any way.

Wasdie

Halo didnt invent anything... (inb4 someone comments on my name)

2 weapon limit was done in CS

sheilds and regen health was done in tribes (i think, havent played tribes 2 in years)

big enviroments were done in Unreal and tribes

Halo didnt invent good stories in shooters, Half Life and AVP2 both had good stories (ill have to say Half life 1 was better aswell)

Tribes did vehicles

what Halo did well was chuck all these ideas into 1 game and blend them perfectly

HaloinventedFPS

Agreed, some people give Halo way too much credit.

It had a spectacular co-op mode though. And Halo 2 pretty much made people pay 50 bucks a year for Live.

it was sucessful because it was balanced with skillgaps that console gamesrs hadn't really experienced (at least onlnie) /thread.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

It was so successful on the consoles because it was an absolutely fantastic game built with the consoles in mind from the ground up.

It was one of the first games to successfully combine the linear shooting/military feel found in games like Medal Of Honor with the arena shooting of Unreal and Quake. The speed of the game was built exclusively for a controller. Things like the dedicated melee and grenade button were excellent additions which moved away from having to select a dedicated melee weapon which was just clunky on a controller.

The level design took advantage of the slower pace giving the player more diverse terrain to fight in. The AI was also the best AI we've ever seen in an FPS. They used the levels to their advantage, had different personalities, and would work together.

The vehicles were also sort of a revolution. They were seamlessly integrated with the gameplay and really felt like they were a part of the environment. This was a big step for FPSs as most FPSs with vehicles up until that point always featured dedicated vehicle sections or the vehicles felt disconnected from the game world.

PC gamers hated on it because it was a bit slower pace than the PC games that they were playing at the time. This was also a time where PC gamers didn't play console games like they do today. They didn't fully understand you couldn't have a game with the pace of Unreal or Quake work very well on the consoles. Bungie knew this and built the whole game with a controller in mind. Most FPSs built on the console until then were attempting to be like PC shooters in every way possible. This only hampered them.

A two weapon limit (only seen in the Ghost Recon and Rainbow Six series), dedicated grenade and melee button, seamless vehicles, slower pace, large, static aiming reticules, uncompromised split-screen co-op, and 4 player split screen competitive play with totally custom gameplay options really made Halo what it was. The fact that they didn't try to make it like other PC shooters where you could carry an endless supply of weapons, had to equip your grenades or your melee weapon to use them, have to fast of a pace, and have reticule bloom were all a part of why Halo was so damn successful. It was an FPS made for the Xbox. That's why PC people didn't like it, it wasn't a PC shooter in any way.

AcidSoldner