RIP Starfield is locked at 30fps on Xbox Series X/S

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#1  Edited By Fairmonkey
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https://www.ign.com/articles/bethesdas-todd-howard-confirms-starfield-performance-and-frame-rate-on-xbox-series-x-and-s

Not only is Starfield locked at 30fps/1440p on the underpowered Xbox Series S but even the supposedly mighty Xbox Series X is LOCKED at 30fps/4K with no option for 60fps or even 40fps. Thanks a lot TODD! Expect a lot of frame rate dips also based on the footage we have seen so it might be closer to 20 or 25fps. The fact that we are getting 1998 frame rates of 30fps or less in 2023 with no higher option is unacceptable and there is no excuse. You ever try playing a racing game or shooter at 30fps only? It sucks. Some people get headaches or are sensitive to it and it is objectively worse than 60. Even 40 would have been somewhat better and not as noticeable. What is the point in exploring 1,000 planets when we are stuck with a microsoft powerpoint presentation frame rate? You better hope it doesn't dip below that or you will get sick as a dog.

Redfall is a complete dumpster fire but at least there is a 60fps patch later and it has multiplayer. With starfield on xbox, you are simply screwed with the vastly inferior port. Thank god there is a PC version. Imagine the disappointment on a child's face on christmas when they get xbox starfield instead of pc starfield. It would be like getting a lump of coal and a slap in the face.

I will probably pass on the game entirely anyways since the game looks boring, lifeless, and empty and Bethesda cant write compelling stories, characters, or questlines. Are Xbox fans ok with a vastly inferior 1998 frame rate or they finally gonna come to their senses and switch to the superior PC that has glorious 60fps and mods?

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#3 Archangel3371
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Meh. It would have been nice to have had a 60fps performance mode for the Xbox Series X version but I’m fine with playing this at 30fps myself. 🤷‍♂️

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PC it is. Like that's any kind of surprise.

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#5 Chutebox
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Ya. That does suck. Why not give options?

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#6  Edited By Pedro
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I don't think the folks who are interested in this game would care if they are gaming on consoles.

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#7 Mesome713
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Nobody cares, only 5% of gamers can even tell the difference 😎

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#8 Ibacai
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I’ll be shocked if it hits those expected values.

Sad day for me though, I’m going to have to wait to play this one for a bit. My 1060 has served me well but won’t cut it here sadly.

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#9 DaVillain  Moderator
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I was gonna get this on PC anyway. To bad for Xbox Series gamers though not getting the rich higher framerates on launch day.

What a great time to be a PC gamer👌 (PC privileges)

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#10 PCLover1980
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Ew. This makes me think the PC port will be trash as well.

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#11 Mesome713
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@pclover1980: That’s almost a given with PC.

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@mesome713: Not really, but ok

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@davillain said:

I was gonna get this on PC anyway. To bad for Xbox Series gamers though not getting the rich higher framerates on launch day.

What a great time to be a PC gamer👌 (PC privileges)

^ what if I told you that not every PC gamer has a PC that can handle 4k 60fps. In fact, most don’t 😎

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#14 lundy86_4
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Buying on PC, but this could always be patched in for Xbox gamers. That being said, it sucks.

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#15  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@SolidGame_basic: I wouldn't know as I'm not interested in gaming 4K. (Well, not yet anyway as I find 1440p to be the sweeeetspot😎)

Edit: It's worth pointing out that this game needs to be played on PC just for modding as this is a Bethesda game after all. Skyrim in Space + Mods = this is gonna be fun on PC!

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#16 Fairmonkey
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@mesome713: But wouldn't you agree there should at least be an option for 40fps or 60fps?

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#17  Edited By BassMan
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@SolidGame_basic said:
@davillain said:

I was gonna get this on PC anyway. To bad for Xbox Series gamers though not getting the rich higher framerates on launch day.

What a great time to be a PC gamer👌 (PC privileges)

^ what if I told you that not every PC gamer has a PC that can handle 4k 60fps. In fact, most don’t 😎

What if I told you that not every console gamer even has a current gen console? In fact, most don't.

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#18 blaznwiipspman1
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I could tell the game was 30fps from the trailer, and it isn't too big a deal. They might patch it later, who knows. The game is seriously on a totally different scale. I'm shocked they even got it running on a series S.

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#19 judaspete
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Was anyone expecting this to run at 60fps on console? For a huge ambitious open world rpg this would usually be the case.

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keeps getting worse and worse. DOA

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#21 adsparky
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This game should be played on PC, not only for things like this, because modders are always better at solving the problems bethesda games have than bethesda themselves.

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#22  Edited By hardwenzen
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As i predicted🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

When Todd made an interview like a year ago, without even stating Starfield, he mentioned that for them at Bethesda, frame rate is not a priority. You didin't need to have 200 IQ to see in between the lines what he is really saying.

So not only will i leech your biggest game in like a decade for just $10, but i will be playing it at over twice the performance of your average lemming. Sealionact is not happy right now, but what can he do? Nothing. He can't do anything. What a sad life.

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#23 dabear
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@Fairmonkey: more copium.

Starfield is going to be the game of the generation. Just accept it.

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@hardwenzen: Welcome to the Xbox ecosystem.

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#25  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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@hardwenzen: You're the last person who should accuse anyone for having a sad life, lmao.

Anyway whatevs. I'm happy with a stable 4k/30fps with the settings turned up for this type of game.

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#26 hardwenzen
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@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: Welcome to the Xbox ecosystem.

I came, gave them $10, and played their best game in like a decade. Am i ripping off Microsoft right now?

@hrt_rulz01 said:

@hardwenzen: You're the last person who should accuse anyone for having a sad life, lmao.

Anyway whatevs. I'm happy with a stable 4k/30fps with the settings turned up for this type of game.

How dare you say that? HOW???

And you were probably one of those people saying that with all the additional time of development they got, no way the game would run as poorly as in their first gameplay reveal a year ago. Now, just because you have no choice, you accept your 30fps, and if you believe that the 4k is native, you're very delusional. The game is guarateed to be 1440-1600p upscaled to 4k.

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#27 WhatAFailure
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Days like this are why my account was made. Thank you, Microsoft.

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#28 Miquella
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Let's wait and see how the optimal quality on PC will be

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@mesome713 said:

Nobody cares, only 5% of gamers can even tell the difference 😎

😏

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#30 gotgames
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Series S needs to be taken off the market it’s holding back the Xbox Series X.

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#31 Fairmonkey
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@gotgames: I agree, Xbox Series S was a massive mistake by Microsoft. It's not that hard to save an additional 200 dollars and now all Xbox games are held back technologically so they can run on that piece of crap. No wonder the graphics are so bad compared to PS5 exclusives

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#32 my_user_name
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It'll be 60 fps on Series X2. Maybe I'll play it then. Or maybe not...it's a Bethesda game unlikely the gameplay will be all that good

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#33 adrian1480
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That's really unfortunate. The only place I will accept 30fps anymore is on mobile devices.

I guess my 4090 will have a new Bethesda toy to play with.

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30 more frames per second than PlayStation though.

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@Fairmonkey said:

@gotgames: I agree, Xbox Series S was a massive mistake by Microsoft. It's not that hard to save an additional 200 dollars and now all Xbox games are held back technologically so they can run on that piece of crap. No wonder the graphics are so bad compared to PS5 exclusives

What if the bottleneck is the CPU? The Series X and Series S essentially have the same CPU. And while it’s MUCH faster than the Jag crap of generations past, a Zen2 processor at those clocks is gonna cause problems.

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#36 GhostOfGolden
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PC folks, what GPU are we expecting to handle this game at 1440p/60fps? A 4070? 4070Ti? Or are we gonna have to deal with another bad PC port?

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#37 BassMan
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@ShadowDeathX said:

30 more frames per second than PlayStation though.

30fps is shit and the game not being on PS5 is not something to cheer about. This goes for all exclusives.

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#38  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@ghostofgolden said:

PC folks, what GPU are we expecting to handle this game at 1440p/60fps? A 4070? 4070Ti? Or are we gonna have to deal with another bad PC port?

Taken from PC Gamer regarding PC specs: (PC Gamer: Starfield PC specs)

Minimum:

  • OS: Windows 10 version 22H2 (10.0.19045)
  • Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X, Intel Core i7-6800K
  • Memory: 16 GB RAM
  • Graphics: AMD Radeon RX 5700, NVIDIA GeForce 1070 Ti
  • DirectX: Version 12
  • Network: Broadband Internet connection
  • Storage: 125 GB available space
  • Additional Notes: SSD Required

Recommended:

  • OS: Windows 10/11 with updates
  • Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X, Intel i5-10600K
  • Memory: 16 GB RAM
  • Graphics: AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080
  • DirectX: Version 12
  • Network: Broadband Internet connection
  • Storage: 125 GB available space
  • Additional Notes: SSD Required

Not surprising it's asking for an RTX 2080 as this game has Global Illumination for its Raytracing but looking at the gameplay from today's show, I wouldn't think this will be a bad port but bugs? Most likely but I'm sure it'll be a good port...at least I hope it will be for both MS & Bethesda's sake after Redfall's disaster.

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Whatevs, I'll just install it and put everything to max without worry. Beef pc comes in handy, there is good reason I don't own an Xbox. All framerate talk aside we all knew this was going to be 30fps on consoles and honestly it's not the end of the world for lems. After 30 minutes you get used to it and move on with the game.

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#40 NfamousLegend
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@davillain: didn't realize this game had any ray-tracing at all. Is there DXR on consoles?

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#41 blamix
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Wasn't this game like the 2nd coming of jesus for lems?

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#42 palasta
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Those massive looming 12 TERAFLOPS.

And they can't even get their "own" exclusives beyond 30 FPS. After Redfail, now Starfail.

@BassMan said:
@ShadowDeathX said:

30 more frames per second than PlayStation though.

30fps is shit and the game not being on PS5 is not something to cheer about. This goes for all exclusives.

Saying that after Redfail...

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#43 SOedipus
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….yikes.

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#44 with_teeth26
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Bethesda games have a history of struggling on console especially. I think its something to do with their engine.

I remember hearing that Fallout 4 had drastic performance problems on console, but ran OK on PC.

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#45 Last_Lap
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Gotta love how people think you can't play games at 30fps lol.

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#46 st_monica
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The trailer is very rough and looks like a 360 game at best. Those jerky movements, low quality textures, barren environments, low FPS with no performance mode, creepy NPC faces and way of talking, clunky gunplay, etc.... This is literally FO76 in space. I honestly can't believe anyone could be excited about this.

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"12tflops". "Most powerful system ever made."

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Disappointed but expected. I'll still play it.

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#49 hrt_rulz01
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@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: Welcome to the Xbox ecosystem.

I came, gave them $10, and played their best game in like a decade. Am i ripping off Microsoft right now?

@hrt_rulz01 said:

@hardwenzen: You're the last person who should accuse anyone for having a sad life, lmao.

Anyway whatevs. I'm happy with a stable 4k/30fps with the settings turned up for this type of game.

How dare you say that? HOW???

And you were probably one of those people saying that with all the additional time of development they got, no way the game would run as poorly as in their first gameplay reveal a year ago. Now, just because you have no choice, you accept your 30fps, and if you believe that the 4k is native, you're very delusional. The game is guarateed to be 1440-1600p upscaled to 4k.

I'm sure you & your fellow no-lifers will be the first to point out if it isn't native 4k, the second it's released 🤷‍♂️

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#50 hardwenzen
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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: Welcome to the Xbox ecosystem.

I came, gave them $10, and played their best game in like a decade. Am i ripping off Microsoft right now?

@hrt_rulz01 said:

@hardwenzen: You're the last person who should accuse anyone for having a sad life, lmao.

Anyway whatevs. I'm happy with a stable 4k/30fps with the settings turned up for this type of game.

How dare you say that? HOW???

And you were probably one of those people saying that with all the additional time of development they got, no way the game would run as poorly as in their first gameplay reveal a year ago. Now, just because you have no choice, you accept your 30fps, and if you believe that the 4k is native, you're very delusional. The game is guarateed to be 1440-1600p upscaled to 4k.

I'm sure you & your fellow no-lifers will be the first to point out if it isn't native 4k, the second it's released 🤷‍♂️

You're becoming such a troll as of late.