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#1  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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And it’s a 32/40 from Famitsu!

What do you think, SW? In line with your expectations? Will you be getting it?

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#2 uninspiredcup
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Why can't they just use a normal scale like normal people.

Anyway, they are heavily Japanese bias. Trying to keep Sega afloat. Everyone knows Sonic sucks.

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Not into Sonic, but what i've seen looks billion years ahead of that shitty open world sonic from last year.

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#4 SecretPolice
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That will equate to a 5/10 here. :P

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#5 TheEroica  Moderator
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It appears to be a solid Sonic game if you're into the classic gameplay. Personally, Ive never found sonic games to be in the upper echelon of 2d platformers. I think the classic games had a moment in time slightly larger than Bonks Adventure and Sega has dragged it through multiple iterations of fledgling designs.

I will say that they've managed to keep the franchise viable among kids and so I don't imagine sonic ever being shelved.

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@TheEroica said:

It appears to be a solid Sonic game if you're into the classic gameplay. Personally, Ive never found sonic games to be in the upper echelon of 2d platformers. I think the classic games had a moment in time slightly larger than Bonks Adventure and Sega has dragged it through multiple iterations of fledgling designs.

I will say that they've managed to keep the franchise viable among kids and so I don't imagine sonic ever being shelved.

I would love a new bonks adventure game. most colorful out of sonic and mario.

turbographics 16 could put more colors on the screen at once out of sega and nin systems and bonks showed that.

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O wow, they gave Sonic Fronters a 35/40 🤣

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#8 TheEroica  Moderator
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@gifford38 said:
@TheEroica said:

It appears to be a solid Sonic game if you're into the classic gameplay. Personally, Ive never found sonic games to be in the upper echelon of 2d platformers. I think the classic games had a moment in time slightly larger than Bonks Adventure and Sega has dragged it through multiple iterations of fledgling designs.

I will say that they've managed to keep the franchise viable among kids and so I don't imagine sonic ever being shelved.

I would love a new bonks adventure game. most colorful out of sonic and mario.

turbographics 16 could put more colors on the screen at once out of sega and nin systems and bonks showed that.

I liked bonk. Super fun game to play on TG16. I agree. Colorful and vibrant. Enjoyed it much more than sonic. Never liked sonics stop and go momentum. I get that it's about speed and building momentum through the level, but meh... Doesn't translate like that all the time.

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@TheEroica said:
@gifford38 said:
@TheEroica said:

It appears to be a solid Sonic game if you're into the classic gameplay. Personally, Ive never found sonic games to be in the upper echelon of 2d platformers. I think the classic games had a moment in time slightly larger than Bonks Adventure and Sega has dragged it through multiple iterations of fledgling designs.

I will say that they've managed to keep the franchise viable among kids and so I don't imagine sonic ever being shelved.

I would love a new bonks adventure game. most colorful out of sonic and mario.

turbographics 16 could put more colors on the screen at once out of sega and nin systems and bonks showed that.

I liked bonk. Super fun game to play on TG16. I agree. Colorful and vibrant. Enjoyed it much more than sonic. Never liked sonics stop and go momentum. I get that it's about speed and building momentum through the level, but meh... Doesn't translate like that all the time.

I had a hard time getting into sonic myself.

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For the game, GP or bust but I wouldn't mind having this controller. :P

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I watched a nine minute video of this game just a second ago, and boy does Sonic not move as fast as he did in the Sega Genesis days. I've always wondered why I liked Sonic as a kid, since you're moving so fast you either don't really engage in the level or hit something because you're going too fast. :/ The game looks nice though. I'm sure it's more than I'd pay for, so I won't be getting it.

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@hardwenzen said:

Not into Sonic, but what i've seen looks billion years ahead of that shitty open world sonic from last year.

lol, forgot about that game. Seems most people did.

And yeah, this looks a hell of a lot better. Kind of like it's doing what a Sonic game should do.

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#13 SolidGame_basic
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@mesome713 said:

O wow, they gave Sonic Fronters a 35/40 🤣

Sonic Frontiers is surprisingly not bad!

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#14  Edited By Jag85
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Why can't they just use a normal scale like normal people.

Anyway, they are heavily Japanese bias. Trying to keep Sega afloat. Everyone knows Sonic sucks.

Nah, Sonic is not that popular in Japan. If anything, they're more biased against Sonic.

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#15  Edited By The_Deepblue
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@TheEroica:

I agree about the Sonic franchise not being top-tier as far as platformers go. I have a soft spot for the Genesis games because I grew up with them, but their emphasis on speed was their most notable aspect and their most annoying.

Mindlessly dashing through a predetermined path is not gameplay, and it’s especially annoying to suddenly run into a “gotcha” object that damages your character at the end of that predetermined path. And Sonic’s movements are so loose and fast that the more contained platforming moments in a confined space feel wonky because the character feels out of place due to his speed and looseness.

Still, every time a new game in the series is announced, the hopeful nostalgia bubbles up within me, but then I realize it will probably be no better this time around. I might try this one, though. I will see what other reviewers say.

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#16 SolidGame_basic
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75 metacritic, not bad! I wonder if @Renegade_Fury is ok with this??

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#17 pmanden
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I want to play this game one day but I don't expect it to be anywhere near as good as the classics 1-3.

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I will most likely buy it next year. Its reviews means little to me.

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#19 AcidTango
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I might try it out when the price gets cheaper.

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#20  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@SolidGame_basic said:

75 metacritic, not bad!

It's Segas lead character and people are "ahh it's not absolutely terrible, well done!"/"Oh! I'll get it on discount".

Mario would never sink this low.

Sonic has been a disaster for Sega, and mankind. They have a ton of other better IPs pushed to the side, forgotten so they can milk this turd until it's just bone-dust left.

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#21 SolidGame_basic
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@uninspiredcup: it is true that 75 is good for Sonic standards lol

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#22 Jag85
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When it comes to Sonic, I don't really care what critics say. They gave Sonic Generations a 77, yet I enjoyed that more than Mario Galaxy, which was a 97. I'm more interested in what the fanbase has to say.

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#23 hardwenzen  Online
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Looks like Lords of the Fallen is a better game, sorry.

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#24 Renegade_Fury
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@SolidGame_basic said:

75 metacritic, not bad! I wonder if @Renegade_Fury is ok with this??

It's what I expected. Superstars has the copy and pasted Mania physics, but everything else is "meh" or only passable since this is an Arzest game. This is not a Sonic Generations or Unleashed scenario, where scores shouldn't be taken at face value. With that said, it'll probably sell more than Mania though since it's 2.5D and Sonic is more popular now than in 2017.

I just hope after Evening Star is done with Penny's Big Breakaway, SEGA can get them on another 2D Sonic. It doesn't have to be Mania 2, but it's clear as day that they know how to make better games than even some of the original creators, like Naoto Ohshima.

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Not much into the Sonic games myself but would give this a try if it ever hits Game Pass.

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#26  Edited By MyCatIsMilk
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I was talking to my friend about how weird it is that Sega has high standards for profit for IP like Alien(s), yet Sonic can keep sucking and they'll keep making more. :(

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@mycatismilk said:

I was talking to my friend about how weird it is that Sega has high standards for profit for IP like Alien(s), yet Sonic can keep sucking and they'll keep making more. :(

They own Sonic, so they keep all the money from it. With Alien they have to share the money with its owners.

And besides, Sonic is a huge cash cow, because not only does it make money from games, they make even more money from licensing and from movies and shows and comics.

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I might give this a shot some day, but Sonic has just always been heavily outshadowed by other platformers.. most notably Mario and Donkey Kong.

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@hardwenzen said:

Not into Sonic, but what i've seen looks billion years ahead of that shitty open world sonic from last year.

sonic frontiers looks better than this

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Sonic destined for the "decent" category when it comes to platformers...

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#32 SargentD
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@Jag85 said:
@uninspiredcup said:

Why can't they just use a normal scale like normal people.

Anyway, they are heavily Japanese bias. Trying to keep Sega afloat. Everyone knows Sonic sucks.

Nah, Sonic is not that popular in Japan. If anything, they're more biased against Sonic.

its good, frontiers is fun

but not anywhere near Mario Odyssey good..

which came out like 5 years before frontiers did...

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@sargentd said:
@hardwenzen said:

Not into Sonic, but what i've seen looks billion years ahead of that shitty open world sonic from last year.

sonic frontiers looks better than this

Are u out of your mind? Sony Frontiers looks words than Halo Infinite. This is the most xbox 360 game i have seen this whole generation.

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#34 SargentD
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@hardwenzen said:
@sargentd said:
@hardwenzen said:

Not into Sonic, but what i've seen looks billion years ahead of that shitty open world sonic from last year.

sonic frontiers looks better than this

Are u out of your mind? Sony Frontiers looks words than Halo Infinite. This is the most xbox 360 game i have seen this whole generation.

Not talking pixels, the game is fun. But not as fun as odyssey

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#35 hardwenzen  Online
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@sargentd said:
@hardwenzen said:
@sargentd said:
@hardwenzen said:

Not into Sonic, but what i've seen looks billion years ahead of that shitty open world sonic from last year.

sonic frontiers looks better than this

Are u out of your mind? Sony Frontiers looks words than Halo Infinite. This is the most xbox 360 game i have seen this whole generation.

Not talking pixels, the game is fun. But not as fun as odyssey

This game looks like some abandoned kickstarter project. They didn't have the time needed to add actual gameplay in it, so i am not too sure what you're finding so fun in it.

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#36 SargentD
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@hardwenzen said:
@sargentd said:
@hardwenzen said:
@sargentd said:
@hardwenzen said:

Not into Sonic, but what i've seen looks billion years ahead of that shitty open world sonic from last year.

sonic frontiers looks better than this

Are u out of your mind? Sony Frontiers looks words than Halo Infinite. This is the most xbox 360 game i have seen this whole generation.

Not talking pixels, the game is fun. But not as fun as odyssey

This game looks like some abandoned kickstarter project. They didn't have the time needed to add actual gameplay in it, so i am not too sure what you're finding so fun in it.

??

It's all gameplay, it's a platformer.

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#37 hardwenzen  Online
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@sargentd said:
@hardwenzen said:
@sargentd said:
@hardwenzen said:
@sargentd said:

sonic frontiers looks better than this

Are u out of your mind? Sony Frontiers looks words than Halo Infinite. This is the most xbox 360 game i have seen this whole generation.

Not talking pixels, the game is fun. But not as fun as odyssey

This game looks like some abandoned kickstarter project. They didn't have the time needed to add actual gameplay in it, so i am not too sure what you're finding so fun in it.

??

It's all gameplay, it's a platformer.

Did you say the same thing about Sonic 06?

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#38  Edited By SargentD
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@hardwenzen said:
@sargentd said:
@hardwenzen said:
@sargentd said:

Not talking pixels, the game is fun. But not as fun as odyssey

This game looks like some abandoned kickstarter project. They didn't have the time needed to add actual gameplay in it, so i am not too sure what you're finding so fun in it.

??

It's all gameplay, it's a platformer.

Did you say the same thing about Sonic 06?

No lol

06 is straight up broken mechanically. Frontiers isn't broken just not pretty detailed graphics.

But I'd say the same thing about THPS 1&2

It's all about the gameplay

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@sargentd said:
@hardwenzen said:
@sargentd said:
@hardwenzen said:
@sargentd said:

Not talking pixels, the game is fun. But not as fun as odyssey

This game looks like some abandoned kickstarter project. They didn't have the time needed to add actual gameplay in it, so i am not too sure what you're finding so fun in it.

??

It's all gameplay, it's a platformer.

Did you say the same thing about Sonic 06?

No lol

06 is straight up broken mechanically. Frontiers isn't broken just not pretty detailed graphics.

But I'd say the same thing about THPS 1&2

It's all about the gameplay

When it looks this dull, gameplay is ruined. This game isn't only technically ugly, but also artistically.

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#40 SargentD
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@hardwenzen: to each thier own I thought frontiers was fun, really nailed the speed of Sonic. This new 2D sonic looks like a major downgrade from mania, looks floaty and wack. Rather play frontiers

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#41 Jag85
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@sargentd said:
@Jag85 said:
@uninspiredcup said:

Why can't they just use a normal scale like normal people.

Anyway, they are heavily Japanese bias. Trying to keep Sega afloat. Everyone knows Sonic sucks.

Nah, Sonic is not that popular in Japan. If anything, they're more biased against Sonic.

its good, frontiers is fun

but not anywhere near Mario Odyssey good..

which came out like 5 years before frontiers did...

Haven't played either game yet (I barely have much time for games nowadays).

But a decade ago, I did enjoy Sonic Generations more than Mario Galaxy, despite Metacritic rating Generations a 77 and Galaxy a 97.

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#42 uninspiredcup
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It's pretty teams like IGN have it in for Sonic. They never even attempted to hide it. The bald caveman looking one is a disgrace to the industry.

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Might play if it comes to PS+

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The only thing that's keeping Sonic relevant are the movies, and even those need Jim Carrey to get noticed. This franchise is more zombified than Resident Evil

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#45 Litchie
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@uninspiredcup said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

75 metacritic, not bad!

It's Segas lead character and people are "ahh it's not absolutely terrible, well done!"/"Oh! I'll get it on discount".

Mario would never sink this low.

Sonic has been a disaster for Sega, and mankind. They have a ton of other better IPs pushed to the side, forgotten so they can milk this turd until it's just bone-dust left.

lol

Funny cause it's true.

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I'll play if it ever comes to gamepass it looks similar to mania.

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It's a dope game.

Sonic haters can suck it.

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#48  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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GS gives it a 7!

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Sega still can't do what Nintindoes.

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How’s the soundtrack?