UH OH, doesn't look good for both XBSEX and PS5 (IGN article on NVIDIA 3000 Series

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#1 daredevils2k
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Well, we all knew that the new Nvidia card are powerful, but look like both MS and Sony has something to worry about.

https://www.ign.com/articles/comparing-nvidias-impressive-new-gpus-to-ps5-and-xbox-series-x

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95% of the gaming population don't care about Nvidia, and about 2% of that 5% will be the only ones wasting money on these cards lol.

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#3 JasonOfA36
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PS5 and XSEX DOA confirmed.

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#4 Fedor
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Console only gamers don't care about power, I've been told so several times. So this information is irrelevant to them.

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#5 incuensuocha
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Why do people continue to believe that consoles are competing with graphics cards?

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#6 Telekill
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I'll enjoy my PS5. Thanks.

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#7 hardwenzen
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I refuse to read the article because it frustrates me.

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#8 daredevils2k
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@i_p_daily said:

95% of the gaming population don't care about Nvidia, and about 2% of that 5% will be the only ones wasting money on these cards lol.

I don't care for nvidia, i'm waiting for the Big Navi reveal.

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#9 Techhog89
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@i_p_daily said:

95% of the gaming population don't care about Nvidia, and about 2% of that 5% will be the only ones wasting money on these cards lol.

Someone's insecure/salty.

Granted, IGN doesn't know enough about tech or journalism to write a good article on this subject, but still.

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#10 JoshRMeyer
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I'll be happy with my $399 digital PS5 which includes a $60 controller. I don't worry about spending the $40 on PS Plus every year since I don't buy many games and the ones that come with PS Plus are worth the $40 spent. No way am I gonna spend any more than that on just a GPU.

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#11 Archangel3371
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Meh. PCs are always going to be more powerful and I’m fine with that. If I wasn’t then I’d just become a PC gamer instead. 🤷‍♂️

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@hardwenzen said:

I refuse to read the article because it frustrates me.

Ahahahah

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#13 NathanDrakeSwag
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Are hermits still pretending that a GPU is the entire PC?

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#14 Fairmonkey
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@i_p_daily: you know there are hundreds of millions of people who use PCs and the gpus are either Nvidia or AMD right? A more accurate statement would be 95 percent of the world doesn't care about xbox

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#15 Fairmonkey
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@fedor: tell that to the lems

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#16  Edited By Fairmonkey
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@joshrmeyer: you don't have to spend more on a GPU. PC can be whatever u want it to be. It is great, however, to have a GPU that obliterates the next gen consoles at an affordable price

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#17  Edited By DrSerigala
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Are hermits still pretending that a GPU is the entire PC?

Of course not, what a childish question???? ROFL.

But with DOUBLE teraflops and TRIPLE RT cores, NVidia has a lot to offer than next gen consoles have in their pocket.

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#18  Edited By Fairmonkey
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@NathanDrakeSwag: No one is saying GPU is the entire system. We are saying the GPUs obliterate the next gen consoles at an affordable price. Imagine how much better or cheaper they will be within a year. Consoles are gonna have to release new versions every year or two to keep up or it's going to hold gaming back again

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#19 Sushiglutton
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Are hermits still pretending that a GPU is the entire PC?

Yeah pretty much lol

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#20 Tessellation
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Well it sh*ts on xbox series x, imaging the 9.2 TFlops console...

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#21 VFighter
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Whelp, stupid thread is stupid...

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#22 Ten_Pints
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To be fair though nvidia GPU cost more than the console, you get what you pay for.

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#23 PSP107
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@Fairmonkey: "or it's going to hold gaming back again"

Wasn't this always the case?

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#24 SolidGame_basic
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The only people that are worried are the PC people who make these insecurity threads lol.

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@i_p_daily said:

95% of the gaming population don't care about Nvidia, and about 2% of that 5% will be the only ones wasting money on these cards lol.

Whatever drugs you are using, please stop taking them cause you're post was illogically foolish.

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#26 deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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Sure, PC GPUs have always been more powerful. But multiple times at console launches, we’ve seen console with very competent graphics capabilities.

What we’ve NEVER seen is a gap this big. Digital Foundry stayed that the Series X Gears 5 bench was falling short of the RTX 2080 in performance. The Series X chip says “8K” on it while the RTX 2080 isn’t a 4K/60 card...

Now we have the RTX 3080 launching in a couple of weeks and it is 60%-90% faster than the RTX 2080. The RTX 3070 is faster than the RTX 2080Ti which was around 35%-45% faster than the RTX 2080. So it’s probably safe to assume the RTX 3060 will be comparable/faster than the RTX 2080 as well, and probably for around $300. So we’re looking at 7 cards being faster than the Series X before it launches.

TLDR: The most powerful console ever made is further behind PC tech than we’ve ever seen. And the PS5? Why even bother launching that thing? These consoles aren’t 4K/60 machines let alone... 8K lol.

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#27  Edited By Bluestars
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Cows all getting 3090’s now

HaH

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#28  Edited By Sevenizz
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People don’t chose a console over PC because of power or lack there of. They do it for convenience, ease of operation, and price.

When will this sink in to pc gamers heads? This argument’s been going on for decades and they still don’t get it.

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#29 NoodleFighter
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@goldenelementxl: We likely won't see the RTX 3060 till early January but no big deal as its only 1-2 months after the PS5 and Series X launch. Plus the RTX 3050 should release in Febuary and comparable/faster than the RTX 2070 which is comparable to the PS5s GPU. This isn't even factoring the performance advantage of DLSS.

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#30 Juub1990
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@Sevenizz said:

People don’t chose a console over PC because of power of lack there of. They do it for convenience, ease of operation, and price.

When will this sink in to pc gamers heads? This argument’s been going on for decades and they still don’t get it.

When it will sink into console gamers' head that consoles will never match high-end PC's.

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@goldenelementxl said:

Sure, PC GPUs have always been more powerful. But multiple times at console launches, we’ve seen console with very competent graphics capabilities.

What we’ve NEVER seen is a gap this big. Digital Foundry stayed that the Series X Gears 5 bench was falling short of the RTX 2080 in performance. The Series X chip says “8K” on it while the RTX 2080 isn’t a 4K/60 card...

Now we have the RTX 3080 launching in a couple of weeks and it is 60%-90% faster than the RTX 2080. The RTX 3070 is faster than the RTX 2080Ti which was around 35%-45% faster than the RTX 2080. So it’s probably safe to assume the RTX 3060 will be comparable/faster than the RTX 2080 as well, and probably for around $300. So we’re looking at 7 cards being faster than the Series X before it launches.

TLDR: The most powerful console ever made is further behind PC tech than we’ve ever seen. And the PS5? Why even bother launching that thing? These consoles aren’t 4K/60 machines let alone... 8K lol.

Do you think the average consumer who buys PS4 or Switch really going to care about that? They are going to see how great PS5/XSX games look and will be content with that. I mean, millions of people are content with Switch's Xbox 360 graphics lol.

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#32  Edited By Sevenizz
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@Juub1990: ‘When it will sink into console gamers' head that consoles will never match high-end PC's.’

Who says they want them to? I state this in my first sentence.

But thank you for proving my point.

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#33 Juub1990
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@Sevenizz said:

@Juub1990: ‘When it will sink into console gamers' head that consoles will never match high-end PC's.’

Who says they want them to? I state this in my first sentence.

But thank you for proving my point.

Dude. It goes both ways. That's why there are system wars in the first place. Quit acting like only PC gamers are at fault when console warriors are just as guilty if not more of the same garbage.

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This is a tired assed repeating cycle for anyone who was born before the year 2000.

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#35 tormentos
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@Juub1990 said:
@Sevenizz said:

People don’t chose a console over PC because of power of lack there of. They do it for convenience, ease of operation, and price.

When will this sink in to pc gamers heads? This argument’s been going on for decades and they still don’t get it.

When it will sink into console gamers' head that consoles will never match high-end PC's.

Just like most PC gamers will never own a TRUE top of the line PC.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It just how things are,even if the xbox had a 3090RTX you probably could use 2 on SLI,what really matter is what you get for the price you get it.

Most gamers on PC are the same,which is why the 3060 is destine to rule over any other model on that 3000 series just as it was with the 2060,1060 and so on,which isn't a bad thing either.

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#36 R4gn4r0k
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@tormentos said:
@Juub1990 said:
@Sevenizz said:

People don’t chose a console over PC because of power of lack there of. They do it for convenience, ease of operation, and price.

When will this sink in to pc gamers heads? This argument’s been going on for decades and they still don’t get it.

When it will sink into console gamers' head that consoles will never match high-end PC's.

Just like most PC gamers will never own a TRUE top of the line PC.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

An RTX2080ti used to be top of the line 2 years ago.

And now you get that kind of power in a mid range card.

So yeah, loads of PC gamers will own top of the line cards, they just need to wait until it has become affordable for everyone.

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#37 HalcyonScarlet
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So after all that bluster from console gamers, their uber-duba consoles might be competing with the 3050 Ti? :-S

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@Tessellation said:

Well it sh*ts on xbox series x, imaging the 9.2 TFlops console...

so tell me what game is better looking than the ps5 games that they showed so far? your 12 teraflop machine has nothing to show that 12 teraflop. not one. zero heck only one game has been shown on the series x other than gear 5 is heaven.

games matter and if cross gen games going to be 120fps/4k raytraced on the ps5 what will series x bring to these multiplats that can out perform the ps5 ones?

so have fun waiting 2 years before you see any thing close to the ps5 launch games.

you can sit there and say yeah at 30fps all you want because the is a 60fps mode to each one of them.

even at 60fps still looks better than xbox series x cross gen games.

people buy next gen for games not teraflops.

so the sony is shitting on xbox this holiday season.

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#39  Edited By Tessellation
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@gifford38: keep thinking your PS4 games in 4K with few raytracing effects look next gen 🤣 you were the guy claiming COD cold war on PS5 is going to be native 4K 120FPS with full raytracing 🤣🤣🤣

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@Tessellation said:

@gifford38: keep thinking your PS4 games in 4K with few raytracing effects look next gen 🤣 you were the guy claiming COD cold war on PS5 is going to be native 4K 120FPS with full raytracing 🤣🤣🤣

PS4 games in 4k with raytracing. ok so what does next gen mean? 3d games to 4d? every gen next gen is just higher textures and better lighting etc. from the last

see guys another one that says the the series x will look a gen ahead of the ps5 lol. see i was not bullshitting when i see xbox fans saying 12 teraflops games will look even better than the 3000 gpu's because its a gen ahead of every one else. so series x games will look like ps6 games never mind ps5. because ps5 games look like ps4 games.

but if you watch ratchet and clank and hzd2 the first thing i noticed that next gen will bring is the density of the world. more npc running around or more animals like the under water seen in hzd2.

all you see is teraflops. have you seen raytracing even looks like? or you to busy still looking at the spec sheet for the series x?

Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War will run at 4K resolution and with refresh rates of 120hz on next-gen consoles.

https://www.ign.com/articles/cod-black-ops-cold-war-4k-120hz

in fact its going to run at 60 fps on the ps4.

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@hardwenzen said:

I refuse to read the article because it frustrates me.

I assume it's trash since OP doesn't provide any summary or details from the article.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

The only people that are worried are the PC people who make these insecurity threads lol.

I think you need your daily reminder solidcow

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#43  Edited By remiks00
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@gifford38 said:
@Tessellation said:

@gifford38: keep thinking your PS4 games in 4K with few raytracing effects look next gen 🤣 you were the guy claiming COD cold war on PS5 is going to be native 4K 120FPS with full raytracing 🤣🤣🤣

PS4 games in 4k with raytracing. ok so what does next gen mean? 3d games to 4d? every gen next gen is just higher textures and better lighting etc. from the last

see guys another one that says the the series x will look a gen ahead of the ps5 lol. see i was not bullshitting when i see xbox fans saying 12 teraflops games will look even better than the 3000 gpu's because its a gen ahead of every one else. so series x games will look like ps6 games never mind ps5. because ps5 games look like ps4 games.

but if you watch ratchet and clank and hzd2 the first thing i noticed that next gen will bring is the density of the world. more npc running around or more animals like the under water seen in hzd2.

all you see is teraflops. have you seen raytracing even looks like? or you to busy still looking at the spec sheet for the series x?

Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War will run at 4K resolution and with refresh rates of 120hz on next-gen consoles.

https://www.ign.com/articles/cod-black-ops-cold-war-4k-120hz

in fact its going to run at 60 fps on the ps4.

I thought COD has always ran at 60fps on consoles in general?

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@incuensuocha said:

Why do people continue to believe that consoles are competing with graphics cards?

Because it always has.

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#45 Gifford38
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@remiks00 said:
@gifford38 said:
@Tessellation said:

@gifford38: keep thinking your PS4 games in 4K with few raytracing effects look next gen 🤣 you were the guy claiming COD cold war on PS5 is going to be native 4K 120FPS with full raytracing 🤣🤣🤣

PS4 games in 4k with raytracing. ok so what does next gen mean? 3d games to 4d? every gen next gen is just higher textures and better lighting etc. from the last

see guys another one that says the the series x will look a gen ahead of the ps5 lol. see i was not bullshitting when i see xbox fans saying 12 teraflops games will look even better than the 3000 gpu's because its a gen ahead of every one else. so series x games will look like ps6 games never mind ps5. because ps5 games look like ps4 games.

but if you watch ratchet and clank and hzd2 the first thing i noticed that next gen will bring is the density of the world. more npc running around or more animals like the under water seen in hzd2.

all you see is teraflops. have you seen raytracing even looks like? or you to busy still looking at the spec sheet for the series x?

Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War will run at 4K resolution and with refresh rates of 120hz on next-gen consoles.

https://www.ign.com/articles/cod-black-ops-cold-war-4k-120hz

in fact its going to run at 60 fps on the ps4.

I thought COD has always ran at 60fps on consoles in general?

i know he doesn't think that is will run 120fps on the ps5. that it was going to be 60fps max

he also doesn't think it can have raytracing in the game as well. only the series x will have it because its 12 teraflops. heck he said only series x games will look next gen while the ps5 games will look like ps4 games with raytracing. like that makes sense.

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#46 Fedor
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@gifford38: It's not doing 4k/120/RT simultaneously, stop it.

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@i_p_daily said:

95% of the gaming population don't care about Nvidia, and about 2% of that 5% will be the only ones wasting money on these cards lol.

Thread ended right here.

Want to know something even funner ? A lot of people who buys consoles, genuinely think they are buying the best graphics available on the market ... hell, they don't even know what Nvidia is.

So yeah, i'm betting MS and Sony are shaking right now.

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#48 Tessellation
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@gifford38: 4K native at 120FPS with full raytracing effects on a 9.2 TFlops console with less CU for raytracing lol... That 4K is most likely with lower frame buffer to achieve 120fps and not raytracing effects at all... Your little brain doesn't really know what RT is and how expensive it is.

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#49 Tessellation
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@gifford38 said:
@Tessellation said:

@gifford38: keep thinking your PS4 games in 4K with few raytracing effects look next gen 🤣 you were the guy claiming COD cold war on PS5 is going to be native 4K 120FPS with full raytracing 🤣🤣🤣

PS4 games in 4k with raytracing. ok so what does next gen mean? 3d games to 4d? every gen next gen is just higher textures and better lighting etc. from the last

see guys another one that says the the series x will look a gen ahead of the ps5 lol. see i was not bullshitting when i see xbox fans saying 12 teraflops games will look even better than the 3000 gpu's because its a gen ahead of every one else. so series x games will look like ps6 games never mind ps5. because ps5 games look like ps4 games.

but if you watch ratchet and clank and hzd2 the first thing i noticed that next gen will bring is the density of the world. more npc running around or more animals like the under water seen in hzd2.

all you see is teraflops. have you seen raytracing even looks like? or you to busy still looking at the spec sheet for the series x?

Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War will run at 4K resolution and with refresh rates of 120hz on next-gen consoles.

https://www.ign.com/articles/cod-black-ops-cold-war-4k-120hz

in fact its going to run at 60 fps on the ps4.

Why you make sh*t up? I didn't even say half the poison you are spewing lol, The truth is the more CU a GPU has the better for raytracing will be.. if you think 36 CU can do better than 52CU you live in a delusional world lol.

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#50 Tessellation
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@gifford38: I never say xsx games will look a gen ahead of anything , you just made that up because of the anger and how angry you get at facts 😎🤣