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#1 cheatymcshifty
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Profanity is illegal in the US, no joke, look it up, supreme court and everything... for everyone saying Australians shouldn't stand for it and they wouldn't let that happen in America. Of course the laws wording has made in unenforcible from day one.. one justice asked after the fact said he had no idea what they passed due too the wording, but.. it's there none the less, I haven't read the Aussie one though.. something too think about.
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#2 cheatymcshifty
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]I wasn't too big on the second season. Not sure if I'll tune in for the third.sammyjenkis898

Does it go south? We're 4 or 5 episodes in and are super-intrigued with the whole Michelle Forbes character. Just wondering if you disliked it from the get-go or if there were developments along the way that chased you off. Again, I recognize that it's basically fan fiction, but I find this season pretty entertaining thusfar

No, I liked it in the beginning. I actually thought it was better than the first season. The last three episodes are what really bothered me. It's hard to go into specifics without spoiling anything.

Same here.. I dont understand how so many people/critics did'nt like the first season but thought the second was great, I thought, 1st was amazing, 2nd was great untill those last few episodes (3-4) still worth watching they just seemed a little crazy, definately took the show down a notch for me, but i'll be watching season 3 for sure.
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#3 cheatymcshifty
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Becoming an MP is just like any other MOS in the army... Get your contract for it (or however you get too MP AIT) Go through basic, and go to MP AIT, MP's do OSUT which means you're with drill sgt's the entire time, and the same ones at that (as well as the same people, and living in bays, whereas many live in barracks or apt. style housing during AIT) which.. sucks, it's 9~10 weeks long the first 5 is about working the road (law and order) stupid mostly.. they telling you how to fill out forms, the last week or 2 isint bad, you do practical exercises and such... the other 4 weeks (the last is usually ceremony stuff mostly) it's about deployment training, convoy's and such, none of it's too realistic, you'll be retought everything how your unit does it when you get there, basic/ait most assuredly is not the real army. Some special things about MP's are that we dont get as much training time for deployments as everyone else, since we have to train to work the road, as well as work the road, you need a secret clearance too be an MP even as a private (most jobs only higher ups do) it's not an issue if you dont have a criminal record though. We get in alot more trouble for alot of things, and article 15's are alot bigger deal too MP's than other combat jobs, from what I've seen. Oh, MP's are deployed alot, we can do all kinds of jobs so they like too have us around... some work the road (most dont, ) while deployed... can do pretty much anything any other combat job can do, (infantry, armor, etc) but we tend too work in smaller elements and they call MP's the "Force of choice" for low intensity conflicts (like... the ones we're in). And @ Weezyfb It took me almost a year too join going through red tape and and BS, almost got a AF colonel family friend involved, went to MEPS 7 times, and my recruiter tried too bribe the doctor at MEPS, who is a civilian by the way, and thats with a nearly perfect ASVAB score, which most college graduates cant get above an 85 on. The national guard more or less said no, and if I had not had the civilian recruiter, who could more or less do what he felt like, and honestly did'nt care about his job, I likely would not be here.... but surely, they'll let anyone in.
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ha, yeah.. I'm an MP.
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[QUOTE="cheatymcshifty"][QUOTE="xhellcatx"]I am not, no. I took the ASVAB in high school... 11th grade. I found it but ive no idea how to figure it out.... lol. um.. Mebby you can ask your recruiter for me, what "ASVAB codes 3, 4" means, and what a military careers score: 202 means. Cause i lost the thing that goes with it and never really looked at it since i took it back then (which was in 2000). o_o. I know my scores werent so bad, but yea i dont know what the main parts really mean. *shakes fist in the air*xhellcatx
Haven't looked at one in more than a year, but the ones that matter are GT and composite, should be labled as such (composite maybe not), GT should be from 32-140 , composite should be from 5-99. I've got the highest score in my company, honestly it means nothing as long as it's not ridiculously low, and even then you can retake it (many times, and theres a class) and it really only affects school acceptence (and even then), it's too easy to get just about any job in the Army (as far as asvab is concerned)... You'd think you would have to at least be fairly smart too be an MP yeah? We got a few ASVAB waivers...

Well, I know id feel safer if my MP's werent as dumb as rocks >_> ... but yea. And the recruiter that recruited my ex husband was AF (and crazily enough he ended up getting stationed at Pope AFB while my ex and I were at Bragg) and he got paid for recruiting my ex. Maybe things have changed though :) just sayin thats what happened with this case. :) and yea I was just curious as to deciphering mine cause I get interested in stupid things like that. Just curiosity is all. Id never pass an army physical - my knees are horrid and so is my back. and i smoke too much. lol but lemme see.... it says DD Form 1304-5. Again, it was taking in 2000, to be specific, 2000-10-26. And I remember screwing around on a lot of it cause i didnt really care cause I was a stupid teenager ^_^ I think i remember writing 'you are hot' to the recruiter on my form as well... poor guy. but yea, the areas where i didnt score so great in were areas i just didnt even try in cause i didnt really care to put forth an effort into areas where i knew i sucked anyways if that makes any sense. The areas I rocked in... well... its cause i liked those areas anyways. *shrugs*

Theres a bunch of sections with 2 letter denotations, they're just the different sections of the test (math, reading, logic, electrical, mechanical, etc) the way the test is set up academics are about half and real world is about half, so a decent comprehension of academia and real world work are the only way too do well... though not a particularly deep or high level understanding of any of the above.

I've never heard of people in the Army being paid, maybe the AF is different... would'nt surprise me, My sister joined in 02 and her recruiter did'nt.. i beleive, i'm certain it's no longer that way regardless.

Edit: About mp's being smart... it's all relative... not too toot my horn, but in the Army I'm considered rediculously smart by most... in the real world, yeah... Most would call me very (or not) smart, but super-geniuses dont join the Army... I'd wager the average MP is smarter than the average infantry soldier, but.. it's all relative.

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I am not, no. I took the ASVAB in high school... 11th grade. I found it but ive no idea how to figure it out.... lol. um.. Mebby you can ask your recruiter for me, what "ASVAB codes 3, 4" means, and what a military careers score: 202 means. Cause i lost the thing that goes with it and never really looked at it since i took it back then (which was in 2000). o_o. I know my scores werent so bad, but yea i dont know what the main parts really mean. *shakes fist in the air*xhellcatx
Haven't looked at one in more than a year, but the ones that matter are GT and composite, should be labled as such (composite maybe not), GT should be from 32-140 , composite should be from 5-99. I've got the highest score in my company, honestly it means nothing as long as it's not ridiculously low, and even then you can retake it (many times, and theres a class) and it really only affects school acceptence (and even then), it's too easy to get just about any job in the Army (as far as asvab is concerned)... You'd think you would have to at least be fairly smart too be an MP yeah? We got a few ASVAB waivers...
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#7 cheatymcshifty
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[QUOTE="Atheos-Arkhaios"][QUOTE="xhellcatx"]Show your enthusiasm :) and make sure you have a list of questions to ask, write em down if you gotta. Have you taken the test yet?xhellcatx
I'm taking a notebook with a ton of questions written down. No I haven't taken the ASVAB, I was going to see if we could schedule a time for me to take it so I could see if I even qualify for the MOS that I'm interested in.

.... *goes to dig hers out* .... just cause i never shared my scores with anyone... lol... lemme get it. OH and the recruiter will get paid a lot to get you to join so you really dont have to worry about impressing him. :) Just be you, ask your questions, and if you want it just kinda show you are enthusiastic about that specific MOS. .... Imma go dig for that now.

He'll get payed nothing unless he's a civillian recruiter, if he's in the Army he just wont get yelled at by his station's sgt. for awhile...

There used to idiots that want to join so you really dont need to do anything special, your recruiter will probably tell you, but if they dont.. lie about everything, unless it's on record, like criminal records and such, there medical records for you are what you give them... it's alot easier to just say you have no medical issues (trust me on this one.. not easy to get in with asthma) unless you have something that you think will be an issue.. at which point you should'nt join to be honest...

EOD is a spec ops job, so you'll have to try out for it, but make sure you get it in your contract, that will ensure you'll get the chance to try out for it, and if you pass you'll be in (tests depend on where you go, i've heard several different ones that could happen)... just make sure you can pass that crap.. .the army's stagnant right now, they'll give you a choice if you fail (unlike when your forced out for behavior or w/e, and they put you into being a cook or whatever job they feel like) but, it will be needs of the Army, who knows what choices you will get if you dont make it.

They probably wont try to get you too OCS, they want people to join as enlisted, if you go too OCS your out of there hands and they wont be getting credit for you, not to mention your average enlisted is not a fan of officers... though, thats the experience I've had (worked at 2 stations for free leave, and my sister was a recruiter). Your station could be different on any of these points.

But yeah.. some recruiters are shady, anything your promised has too be in your contract, or your not getting it.... bonuses, mos, special programs, schools, etc. And on that note.. if they tell you you wont deploy, there lieing, and if they tell you where your going to be stationed, there lieing (unless it's in your contract, or your reserves/guard). Most nowadays will tell it too you pretty straight though. Probably forgot stuff...

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#8 cheatymcshifty
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[QUOTE="Palantas"]And? What's funny?optiow
What is funny is that some are still deceiving themselves that America is doing good there. It may not be 'ha ha' funny, but it is funny in a sad way.

The FOB I'm on employees literally hundreds of Iraq's, and it's relatively small, we leave and they don't have jobs, there you go, thats SOMETHING good, not sure theres an argument for that. What's sad is that people never want to mention all the good things we've done here.
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Here's a not well circulated fact that pretty much any body who's been in Iraq the last year or so could tell you, especially those who run "combat mission"... we've more or less won in Iraq. I'm sure someone may post about the bombings that occur every two weeks or a month or so and kill civilians, but.... things happen, theres shootings at schools, churches, hospitals etc on a weekly basis in America, people hurt other people, it happens. Now if America really threw it's weight behind the war (ala WW2) I firmly believe we would have been done long ago.
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#10 cheatymcshifty
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Pretty happy, got a day off today, and work 3 and 1's the rest of the month... even with 12 hour shifts it's easy to appreciate that schedule when your used to like 30/1's or like 60/0 with 18 and 20 hour days sprinkled in for good measure.