Xbox Shutting Down Multiple Studios

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#251 Macutchi
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Remember last year when Phillip W. Spencer said Redfall would be their most supported game?

it would be interesting to hear exactly what happened behind the scenes with redfall, arkane austin, zenimax and ms.

i wasn't super keen on prey, but arkane lyon are one of my favourite devs, and i'd take an attempt at the kind of game aa were going for with prey over far cry 37 or similar any day of the week. but you could just see with redfall that it was a game that didn't have a clue what it wanted to be, that arkane were completely out of their comfort zone, and it was 100% not a game aimed at their fanbase.

i tried it, it was absolutely atrocious. must've been incredibly embarrassing for anyone involved.

i'm certain i read a quote from phil post launch saying he was unhappy with himself about it, and ms would be revisiting arkane austin's development and delivery process, so it's no surprise it's not been supported. there was no hope of rescue for redfall

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#252 hardwenzen  Online
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This is what i was telling dabear for so long. He needs to wake up.

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#253 deactivated-664b983590f56
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@freedomfreak said:

Spend bilions to buy studios. Fire everyone. Close company.

Haha.

Karma.....

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#254 Last_Lap
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@nintendoboy16: That Ybarra guy is a fucking idiot, he knows what Phil is going through, gimme a break. I don't think I've read anything so dumb in all my life.

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#255 Last_Lap
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So a few months ago Phil heads to Japan to sure up games for Xbox and closes his Japanese studio months later, and some of you people think he's fit to run Xbox. I wouldn't let him run a chook raffle.

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So a few months ago Phil heads to Japan to sure up games for Xbox and closes his Japanese studio months later, and some of you people think he's fit to run Xbox. I wouldn't let him run a chook raffle.

I think it’s time you finally join Twitter and DM him.

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#257  Edited By hardwenzen  Online
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Wouldn't surprise me if the first tweet IP leaves to Phil starts with c*nt. He hates him this much.

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#258  Edited By Last_Lap
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@SolidGame_basic: Why would I join Twitter? It's worse than this place and owned by a moron.

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#259 hardwenzen  Online
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@SolidGame_basic: Why would I join Twitter? It's worse than this place and owned by a moron.

Elon is not a moron. Its a powerful human with billions of dollars. One of the best of his kind. He also plays and adores Elden Ring.

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@hardwenzen: His car sales are tanking, Twitter is a bigger cesspool now then before he bought it. His 'indestructable' trucks have ALL been recalled over a faulty accelerator pedal.

The fact he plays ER is just icing on the moron cake known as Elon Musk, I'm not surprised you like him.

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#261  Edited By hardwenzen  Online
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@hardwenzen: His car sales are tanking, Twitter is a bigger cesspool now then before he bought it. His 'indestructable' trucks have ALL been recalled over a faulty accelerator pedal.

The fact he plays ER is just icing on the moron cake known as Elon Musk, I'm not surprised you like him.

He is my idol.

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#262 nintendoboy16
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In somewhat pettier news, to quote Nelson Muntz "Ha! Ha!"

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#263 Pedro
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@nintendoboy16: Like I have said, gamers are silly.😂

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#266  Edited By Archangel3371  Online
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“Xbox is dead!” Give me all your clicks! 😂

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@Archangel3371 said:

“Xbox is dead!” Give me all your clicks! 😂

For the second time this year.😂

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#268 mazuiface
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@Pedro said:
@Archangel3371 said:

“Xbox is dead!” Give me all your clicks! 😂

For the second time this year.😂

They haven't pulled out...

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#269  Edited By mazuiface
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@Macutchi said:
@mazuiface said:

Remember last year when Phillip W. Spencer said Redfall would be their most supported game?

it would be interesting to hear exactly what happened behind the scenes with redfall, arkane austin, zenimax and ms.

i wasn't super keen on prey, but arkane lyon are one of my favourite devs, and i'd take an attempt at the kind of game aa were going for with prey over far cry 37 or similar any day of the week. but you could just see with redfall that it was a game that didn't have a clue what it wanted to be, that arkane were completely out of their comfort zone, and it was 100% not a game aimed at their fanbase.

i tried it, it was absolutely atrocious. must've been incredibly embarrassing for anyone involved.

i'm certain i read a quote from phil post launch saying he was unhappy with himself about it, and ms would be revisiting arkane austin's development and delivery process, so it's no surprise it's not been supported. there was no hope of rescue for redfall

The saddest part about Arkane Austin closing is that Redfall isn't even the game they wanted to make. Prey (which was not the name they wanted for the game) was more solid and a better reflection of their talent. It just feels like they weren't given a chance. I can understand the financial argument for it, but the execs like Spencer and Bond should be quiet with all of the PR nonsense assertions that they will give these studios creative freedom.

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#270 Saint-George
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@SolidGame_basic said:
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When you use this spit bubble moon boot as a source..

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#271 DaVillain
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Overall, I think 8BE bring up good valid points here and while I'm not the biggest fan of Hi-Fi Rush despite the game is fun, it did win several awards (including the game awards) and closing Tango has got to be the biggest mistake I ever seen coming from MS. Buying Bethesda and Activision really cost MS tons of money and its hard investing it back is why there's so many layoffs. Sony as well but MS has the most layoffs:

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Again, this is why I prefer buying my games over using Game Pass.

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@Pedro: Judgment day 2.0

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#274 SolidGame_basic
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this whole thing has made me continue my playthrough of Hi-Fi Rush I started last year lol. Think I only have a few chapters left.

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#275 ChrisChronos
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I wouldn't want to be a cow or a lem at this point.. it just seems like MS and Sony are trying to out clown eachother.

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#276 Crpgarsa
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Wow a shame poor management of talented studio

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#277 st_monica
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The string of unfortunate layoffs/studio closures at MS reminds me of the scene where Cell, once attaining its perfect form by absorbing other Andorids, is cornered and spits out Android 17. Wonder how long it takes it to eventually self-destruct, haha.

All joking aside, as someone who really enjoyed Evil Within and Ghostwire Tokyo (I missed Hi-Fi Rush at launch, but will be playing it on PS5), I sincerely hope these talented creators find new jobs as soon as possible.

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#279 Pedro
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@loudheadphones: Every time you post you embarrass yourself 😂

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#280 TheEroica  Moderator
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@loudheadphones: Cmon man... You can't be posting filth talk on the forum.

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#281  Edited By mrbojangles25
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I mean, this is what we deserve. I know this is System Wars and the last thing I want is to make this political or a social/cultural thing, but we vote politicians in that favor corporate and capitalist interests, and put their constituents last, and we continue our backslide into modern-era feudalism.

This carries over into the video games we play, the movies and shows we watch, the news we read, and so on and so forth. Just look at Gamespot; it's basically one giant ad that caters to the trend ticker. "Destiny is trending! SPAM THE DESTINY ARTICLES!"

We own less. We have fewer rights. Art and education are put last while profit and growth are put first, when we could instead find a happy balance of all. Instead of sharing resources and adopting a "rising tide lifts all ships" mentality, we resource guard and say "Well I don't need this, but I don't want you to have it".

TL;DR: We shouldn't be surprised when our politicians don't stop giant companies from gobbling up littler ones, then shutting them down to increase their net worth. This is late-stage capitalism, and until we repeal Citizens United and place politicians in place that favor people and consumer over CEO's and corporations, we don't deserve anything better.

Forget about the national politics, too, and remember to vote state and local! It matters more, arguably!

/end rant. Sorry not sorry.

Sincerely

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#282 Pedro
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@mrbojangles25: You are correct that gamers are too blame and the market is what gamers have sculpted.🙃 Studios close when it is not a viable business. Gamers on forums like these talk about wanting new games but the best selling games are rehashes and sequels. The same apply to games with high accolades, media praise etc. None of that matters if the casual gamers aren't supporting said game. SW and other outlets like these are bubbles of group think. Once you realize this, you just have fun with the common nonsense. The side effect is that some folks believe that these bubbles are a reflection of reality.😂

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#283  Edited By mrbojangles25
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@Pedro said:

@mrbojangles25: You are correct that gamers are too blame and the market is what gamers have sculpted.🙃 Studios close when it is not a viable business. Gamers on forums like these talk about wanting new games but the best selling games are rehashes and sequels. The same apply to games with high accolades, media praise etc. None of that matters if the casual gamers aren't supporting said game. SW and other outlets like these are bubbles of group think. Once you realize this, you just have fun with the common nonsense. The side effect is that some folks believe that these bubbles are a reflection of reality.😂

Oh I know, we are a bubble and a minority. Most people buy a console to play one game year round (CoD, Halo, Madden) with maybe a few other titles sprinkled in. A large chunk of that massive PC gaming community I'm so proud of is millions of moms just playing the Sims or some farming game 😋

But like an old poster once said, if a chocolate factory known for amazing chocolate started selling literal shit one day, and everyone still ate it, isn't it your job to yell from the mountain top "STOP EATING SHIT!"?

😋😂🤣

I know it sounds somewhat fascist but if people don't know of any other way, isn't it our job as citizens to show them an alternative? A choice?

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#284 Pedro
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@mrbojangles25 said:
@Pedro said:

@mrbojangles25: You are correct that gamers are too blame and the market is what gamers have sculpted.🙃 Studios close when it is not a viable business. Gamers on forums like these talk about wanting new games but the best selling games are rehashes and sequels. The same apply to games with high accolades, media praise etc. None of that matters if the casual gamers aren't supporting said game. SW and other outlets like these are bubbles of group think. Once you realize this, you just have fun with the common nonsense. The side effect is that some folks believe that these bubbles are a reflection of reality.😂

Oh I know, we are a bubble and a minority. Most people buy a console to play one game year round (CoD, Halo, Madden) with maybe a few other titles sprinkled in. A large chunk of that massive PC gaming community I'm so proud of is millions of moms just playing the Sims or some farming game 😋

But like an old poster once said, if a chocolate factory known for amazing chocolate started selling literal shit one day, and everyone still ate it, isn't it your job to yell from the mountain top "STOP EATING SHIT!"?

😋😂🤣

I know it sounds somewhat fascist but if people don't know of any other way, isn't it our job as citizens to show them an alternative? A choice?

Nope! Too much effort and they are still going to eat it.😂

As for your last sentence, I take the approach of listening and offering alternatives (not force feeding) in the real world. I don't apply that to this forum though.😏

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@Pedro said:

@loudheadphones: Every time you post you embarrass yourself 😂

@TheEroica said:

@loudheadphones: Cmon man... You can't be posting filth talk on the forum.

Me? Looks like Xbox peeps keep defending a dead platform HERE and how everything is good there

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@loudheadphones said:
@Pedro said:

@loudheadphones: Every time you post you embarrass yourself 😂

@TheEroica said:

@loudheadphones: Cmon man... You can't be posting filth talk on the forum.

Me? Looks like Xbox peeps keep defending a dead platform HERE and how everything is good there

Microsoft gaming you say...so Xbox and pc joining as one and in doing so completely destroying Sony Playstation..i knew PS was in last place..but cheers for the confirmation.

Phil says thanks for the sea of thieves money and of course ...

And cows think they are winning 😂🤣
And cows think they are winning 😂🤣

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#287 Pedro
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@loudheadphones: And my comment remains true.😂

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@loudheadphones said:
@Pedro said:

@loudheadphones: Every time you post you embarrass yourself 😂

@TheEroica said:

@loudheadphones: Cmon man... You can't be posting filth talk on the forum.

Me? Looks like Xbox peeps keep defending a dead platform HERE and how everything is good there

No... The post of yours I deleted said, "C***sucker" in the title.... We generally don't allow that kind of filthy talk on these here chat boards. I chose not to moderate you and instead just delete the post, assuming you just didn't know?

Im not concerned about the point you are trying to make, just do so in a way that doesn't make me have to delete your posts....

Are you good now or do we keep discussing this?

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#289  Edited By loudheadphones
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@TheEroica said:
@loudheadphones said:
@Pedro said:

@loudheadphones: Every time you post you embarrass yourself 😂

@TheEroica said:

@loudheadphones: Cmon man... You can't be posting filth talk on the forum.

Me? Looks like Xbox peeps keep defending a dead platform HERE and how everything is good there

No... The post of yours I deleted said, "C***sucker" in the title.... We generally don't allow that kind of filthy talk on these here chat boards. I chose not to moderate you and instead just delete the post, assuming you just didn't know?

Im not concerned about the point you are trying to make, just do so in a way that doesn't make me have to delete your posts....

Are you good now or do we keep discussing this?

Never ever mentioned that. Sorry. No need to make things up. False accusations by a mod. Why you are doing this?

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@saint-george said:
@loudheadphones said:
@Pedro said:

@loudheadphones: Every time you post you embarrass yourself 😂

@TheEroica said:

@loudheadphones: Cmon man... You can't be posting filth talk on the forum.

Me? Looks like Xbox peeps keep defending a dead platform HERE and how everything is good there

Microsoft gaming you say...so Xbox and pc joining as one and in doing so completely destroying Sony Playstation..i knew PS was in last place..but cheers for the confirmation.

Phil says thanks for the sea of thieves money and of course ...

And cows think they are winning 😂🤣
And cows think they are winning 😂🤣

Which means more Xbox games on PS. Thanks! So, Hellblade 2, Indiana...all of them will come.

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@SolidGame_basic: So you use a PC fanboy and a Sony fanboy videos 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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#292 TheEroica  Moderator
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@loudheadphones said:
@TheEroica said:
@loudheadphones said:
@Pedro said:

@loudheadphones: Every time you post you embarrass yourself 😂

@TheEroica said:

@loudheadphones: Cmon man... You can't be posting filth talk on the forum.

Me? Looks like Xbox peeps keep defending a dead platform HERE and how everything is good there

No... The post of yours I deleted said, "C***sucker" in the title.... We generally don't allow that kind of filthy talk on these here chat boards. I chose not to moderate you and instead just delete the post, assuming you just didn't know?

Im not concerned about the point you are trying to make, just do so in a way that doesn't make me have to delete your posts....

Are you good now or do we keep discussing this?

Never ever mentioned that. Sorry. No need to make things up. False accusations by a mod. Why you are doing this?

The tweet had it written in it.

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#293 robert_sparkes
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Will be interesting to see what other rumoured cuts ms make to studios.

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#294  Edited By hardwenzen  Online
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WOW the Xbox situation is actually much worse than i expected it being. Fascinating.

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#295 SecretPolice
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Only a few weeks to the Massive Xbox games show on June 9th. :D

I just hope Uncle Phil has at least something new for the cows to play since BS Jive has no new games. lol :P

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#296 BIOKILLER123
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AND this is why I was always sceptic when Microsoft made a multitude of purchases. Me as well as others, feel like Microsoft wants a monopoly over the games industry and, want to be more of a service (Game pass) than a Home console manufacture.