I don´t like the new Joker

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#1  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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He looks like a male prostitute with really bad teeth. He doesn´t look like scary, charismatic or funny at all. Can we resurrect Heith Ledger with voodoo or something.

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#2  Edited By Master_Live
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It happens, some didn't liked Ledger's Joker either. It is what it is.

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#3 Gwynnblade
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Fret not, I don't like the new batman either.

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@jhonMalcovich said:

He looks like a male prostitute with really bad teeth. He doesn´t look like scary, charismatic or funny at all. Can we resurrect Heith Ledger with voodoo or something.

Male prostitutes with really bad teeth look scarier than what ever Heath was in Dark Knight.

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#5 uninspiredcup
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Looks pretty good to me, the movie itself looks shite.
Saying that, I said the exact same thing with Judge Dredd, how wrong I was.

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#6  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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@bmanva said:
@jhonMalcovich said:

He looks like a male prostitute with really bad teeth. He doesn´t look like scary, charismatic or funny at all. Can we resurrect Heith Ledger with voodoo or something.

Male prostitutes with really bad teeth look scarier than what ever Heath was in Dark Knight.

But Joker must also be funny and charismatic, otherwise he wouldn't get himself a hot harlequin. But Leto's version of Joker looks more like Buffalo Bill from Hannibal kind of crazy.

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#7  Edited By Riverwolf007
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Meh, what are you going to do? It's obviously the sparkly vampire tiger beat joker and I can't call them out when they are doing the same shit every other teenybop movie is doing.

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@jhonMalcovich said:
@bmanva said:
@jhonMalcovich said:

He looks like a male prostitute with really bad teeth. He doesn´t look like scary, charismatic or funny at all. Can we resurrect Heith Ledger with voodoo or something.

Male prostitutes with really bad teeth look scarier than what ever Heath was in Dark Knight.

But Joker must also be funny and charismatic, otherwise he wouldn't get himself a hot harlequin.

I disagree. Harley Quinn is supposed to be insane and don't necessarily share the same taste as normal people.

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#9  Edited By LexLas
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@Master_Live said:

It happens, some didn't liked Ledger's Joker either. It is what it is.

So true, lots of people didn't. But in my book, he was the best, right after Nicholson. This one is going to be in its own class almost, because its a different version. He seem to be a good fit to me. Can't wait ..

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I shall wait and see....but his Joker is based on one of the comics. Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns I believe....

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#11 dave123321
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It's the joker for the millenials

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#12  Edited By Master_Live
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From Wikipedia so take it for what it is: "There are no precise dates when the [millennial] generation starts and ends. Researchers and commentators use birth years ranging from the early 1980s to the early 2000s."

Ledger's is a millennial Joker.

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I don't like it either. As a result, I won't see it.

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#14 iloveatlus
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i didn't like his new look at first, but it grew on me

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#15 Drunk_PI
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They said the same about Heath Ledger's Joker and now everyone is going gaga over him.

DC live action movies haven't always been great, save Nolan's Batman trilogy. They're rushing it, trying to match Marvel's success while having dark overtones from Nolan's Batman. That said, I'm still hyped but skeptical for Suicide Squad and Batman vs Superman.

That said, this Joker's voice is pretty good and seems that Jared Leto can play a proper Joker. Can't say I like the tattoos or the teeth.

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#16 Megane
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I like it, he's a good mix between gritty and cartoon and the tattoos give him a new twist. .

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#17  Edited By fenriz275
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I'm waiting to see his performance before I decide. I hated Nicholsons's Joker, way too campy. If I'd wanted that I'd just watch Cesar Romero. Heath came closest to the Joker I'd always wanted to see on screen but I'll add so far because I haven't seen Leto's attempt yet but I hate the freaking tattoos. Makes the Joker seem like seem emo kid high on meth.

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@jhonMalcovich said:
@bmanva said:
@jhonMalcovich said:

He looks like a male prostitute with really bad teeth. He doesn´t look like scary, charismatic or funny at all. Can we resurrect Heith Ledger with voodoo or something.

Male prostitutes with really bad teeth look scarier than what ever Heath was in Dark Knight.

But Joker must also be funny and charismatic, otherwise he wouldn't get himself a hot harlequin. But Leto's version of Joker looks more like Buffalo Bill from Hannibal kind of crazy.

Wtf? Joker isn't a romantic. Harley Quinn fell for Joker due to their insanity.

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@jhonMalcovich said:

He looks like a male prostitute with really bad teeth. He doesn´t look like scary, charismatic or funny at all. Can we resurrect Heith Ledger with voodoo or something.

Heath Ledgers Joker is good but not the best. The best live action actor probably but Luke Skywalker AKA Mark Hamill is the voice of The Joker, period.

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#20 Master_Live
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@-paranorman- said:
@jhonMalcovich said:

He looks like a male prostitute with really bad teeth. He doesn´t look like scary, charismatic or funny at all. Can we resurrect Heith Ledger with voodoo or something.

Heath Ledgers Joker is good but not the best. The best live action actor probably but Luke Skywalker AKA Mark Hamill is the voice of The Joker, period.

Nah, not period. I would contend Ledger's voice was just as good as Hamill's.

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#21 MuD3
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@jhonMalcovich: I don't like the look either, don't think most people do... but look isn't everything, wait and see what you think after you watch the movie.

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@Master_Live said:
@-paranorman- said:
@jhonMalcovich said:

He looks like a male prostitute with really bad teeth. He doesn´t look like scary, charismatic or funny at all. Can we resurrect Heith Ledger with voodoo or something.

Heath Ledgers Joker is good but not the best. The best live action actor probably but Luke Skywalker AKA Mark Hamill is the voice of The Joker, period.

Nah, not period. I would contend Ledger's voice was just as good as Hamill's.

Have you heard Hamill perform in the Arkham games? Ledger doesn't even come close IMO.

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#23 Master_Live
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@-paranorman- said:
@Master_Live said:
@-paranorman- said:
@jhonMalcovich said:

He looks like a male prostitute with really bad teeth. He doesn´t look like scary, charismatic or funny at all. Can we resurrect Heith Ledger with voodoo or something.

Heath Ledgers Joker is good but not the best. The best live action actor probably but Luke Skywalker AKA Mark Hamill is the voice of The Joker, period.

Nah, not period. I would contend Ledger's voice was just as good as Hamill's.

Have you heard Hamill perform in the Arkham games? Ledger doesn't even come close IMO.

Have not, but I have been hearing Hamill's excellent Joker interpretation since 1992.

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@Master_Live: Oh, man. You have to hear him in the Arkham series. He only got better with age.

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We'll see what happens. Jared Leto is a good actor, and we saw his acting for ten seconds. If anything, it seemed to Ledgery, but was otherwise very decent.

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I don't like it either.

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#27 Acillatem1993
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I think he fits the comic book/ cartoon Joker very good. Dark knights joker was a more realistic approach in my opinion. So I dont really mind. Also the laugh in the trailer was great.

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Don't like the new Joker. The Arkham series has the best joker.

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#29  Edited By MlauTheDaft
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@bmanva said:
@jhonMalcovich said:

He looks like a male prostitute with really bad teeth. He doesn´t look like scary, charismatic or funny at all. Can we resurrect Heith Ledger with voodoo or something.

Male prostitutes with really bad teeth look scarier than what ever Heath was in Dark Knight.

Those two images look nothing alike. Get rid of the cringy tattoos (especially the one on the forehead) and the glove and we might actually have a start.

Joker is'nt supposed to be a hipster gangbanger.

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#30 LexLas
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Now that i look twice at it, he looks like one of those mad max movie dudes, from the new movie, lol ..

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#31 Blueresident87
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Not everybody liked Heath Ledger's Joker, and not everybody will like Leto's.

As far as Leto's goes, I really do not like the tattoos. I mean come on, we get it, the Joker is crazy...The word 'damaged' is tattooed across his forehead for shit's sake, why???

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#32 TheHighWind
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He's an OVERLY ATTACHED joker!

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@MlauTheDaft said:
@bmanva said:
@jhonMalcovich said:

He looks like a male prostitute with really bad teeth. He doesn´t look like scary, charismatic or funny at all. Can we resurrect Heith Ledger with voodoo or something.

Male prostitutes with really bad teeth look scarier than what ever Heath was in Dark Knight.

Those two images look nothing alike. Get rid of the cringy tattoos (especially the one on the forehead) and the glove and we might actually have a start.

Joker is'nt supposed to be a hipster gangbanger.

But Heath's joker looks closer? Come on. They might not be an exact match but Leto's joker comes the closest in capturing contemporary comic joker.

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#34  Edited By Master_Live
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[This should be good] Aside from the scars/"war paint" how exactly is Ledger's Joker "more different" to "contemporary comic joker" than Leto's?

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#35  Edited By MlauTheDaft
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@bmanva: Heath's Joker was fitting for Nolan's Batman verse, which strived for a more realistic setting.

Leto's Joker may be closer to the comics but they got him all wrong, which kind of makes it worse :) Seriously, don't fucking tattoo "damaged" on the Joker's forehead..... The "hahahahahaha" one is already bad enough. The Joker is mental but he's far from edgy.

I guess that's my problem with the new Joker. They're trying way too hard to make him edgy

Edit: Also, I actually think Nolan's Batman films are overrated (Ledger was good though), and Batfleck VS Supes is going to be better :)

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I finally got around to watching the thing and all kidding aside about sparkly vampire teenybob cinema there is nothing really wrong with it.

It looks better than most dc projects and at least the entire team is not a bunch of unbeatable gods that have to fight jesus + aliens + god+ super kryptonian ebolasyphilisarreah to have a challenge.

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Joker in the comics is usually super skinny, tall and awkward-looking, I kind of like the new look minus the tattoos.

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those tats are, from a creative standpoint, 1 step away from simply stating "i am crazy person" and "this is joker character"

the target demographic is pretty clear to say the least




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@TheHighWind said:

He's an OVERLY ATTACHED joker!

Someone should make a meme out of that.

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#40  Edited By deactivated-598fc45371265
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Why are we talking about the Joker and not the absurdly sexy Harley Quinn?

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@jhonMalcovich: Agreed. He looks more like victor zsazs from the arkham games.

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People said exactly the same bullshit about Ledger and now he's the most loved Joker of them all.

I in fact like what Leto is doing (what little has been shown). He is really channeling the "psychotic evil" side of the character, while Ledger was more of a "chaotic evil" type.

Then there is Jack Nicholson, Cesar Romero and even Mark Hammil Jokers, which are all different from Ledger.

The Joker is a character archetype that can be interpreted in many different ways (just look at the comics and the vastly different ways he's been portrayed over the years) and saying you don't like him for merely superficial reasons (the way the character is acted is most telling about that person's interpretation) is just dumb.

@Storm_Marine said:

Why are we talking about the Joker and not the absurdly sexy Harley Quinn?

Also this.

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#43 BattleSpectre
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In this film Joker looks scarier and darker in my opinion. At first I didn't like the new look but it has definitely grown on me, he looks twisted and crazed which I think will work very well with this film. Also let's not judge a movie before it's even out, I'm sure he will also be charismatic and funny like we're accustomed to seeing with the Joker. 2016 is going to be so amazing with Superman V Batman and Suicide Squad.

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#44 bmanva
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@Storm_Marine said:

Why are we talking about the Joker and not the absurdly sexy Harley Quinn?

I don't know why but Harley Quinn in this movie reminds me of Britta Perry from Community.

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@BiancaDK said:

those tats are, from a creative standpoint, 1 step away from simply stating "i am crazy person" and "this is joker character"

the target demographic is pretty clear to say the least

If they have to spell it out to that extent, it isn't really working.

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There's no way of pleasing fans to tell the truth.

If the Joker were too much like Heath Ledger's people would complain that there was no comparison and the actor should find his own style.

If the Joker made a drastic change people would complain about Heath Ledger or any other Joker in the history of the character because they have fond memories about them.

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The first time I saw him, something felt off. Now that you mention it TC, he does look somehow effeminate, which gives him a certain feeling that isn't necessarily bad, but isn't in line with the Joker persona. Bottom line is: I like him but not as a Joke.

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#48 BiancaDK
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@Blueresident87 said:
@BiancaDK said:

those tats are, from a creative standpoint, 1 step away from simply stating "i am crazy person" and "this is joker character"

the target demographic is pretty clear to say the least

If they have to spell it out to that extent, it isn't really working.

i fully agree

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If I was a director I wouldn't touch the joker character again until 2020 or after. Or I would have wanted a more classic Joker like Caesar Romero's and Nicholson's. Ledger brought great new interpretation to the character and I knew using it again was going to make the actor and director want to distance themselves from it. I think it failed