Are Wii developers sloppy? GCN's unchallenged technology-pusher, Factor 5, says

Julian: Yes. I'm so disappointed knowing exactly what the Wii can do -- and I still think nobody knows it better than we (no pun intended) [laughs]. I really have to say, boy, am I disappointed! They all have finally figured out, five years into the hardware's life cycle, how to do at least basic shaders and a rim light, but that's what everybody does. But I still don't see enough bump and normal-mapping, if any. I still don't see enough post effects, although you would have insane fill-rates with Wii. I don't see any of that. I was digging out Rebel Strike the other day and was looking at it, and we had some people who were visiting ask, "Why isn't anybody else doing this on Wii?" And I am at a loss. I really am.

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I believe they could do amazing things with the Wii tbh... I mean its true that rogue leader on the GC(the launch title) easily had one of most amazing graphics of that generation even comparing to the end of the consoles lifecycle. It would be great for them to do another game for Nintendo and set the bar up there as most games are ports at the moment...not nice, at least games like dewys adventure and battalion wars 2 use bump and normal mapping. hopefully we'll see some great looking games on the wii soon enoughKeibo

Resident Evil 4 was a beautiful GCN title. Rogue Squadron was doing things at launch that developers still haven't done on Wii. Why do you think that is? Are studios getting sloppy on Wii?

Julian: Yes. I'm so disappointed knowing exactly what the Wii can do -- and I still think nobody knows it better than we (no pun intended) [laughs]. I really have to say, boy, am I disappointed! They all have finally figured out, five years into the hardware's life cycle, how to do at least basic shaders and a rim light, but that's what everybody does. But I still don't see enough bump and normal-mapping, if any. I still don't see enough post effects, although you would have insane fill-rates with Wii. I don't see any of that. I was digging out Rebel Strike the other day and was looking at it, and we had some people who were visiting ask, "Why isn't anybody else doing this on Wii?" And I am at a loss. I really am.

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venture00

It's been posted but I agree. Wasn't Rebel Strike a launch game? Some say it still looks better than alot of 360 launch titles.Boba_Fett_3710

:lol:Better than 360 games?  No way.  Nothing compares to hd

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]It's been posted but I agree. Wasn't Rebel Strike a launch game? Some say it still looks better than alot of 360 launch titles.ironwarrior2

:lol:Better than 360 games? No way. Nothing compares to hd

[QUOTE="ironwarrior2"]

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]It's been posted but I agree. Wasn't Rebel Strike a launch game? Some say it still looks better than alot of 360 launch titles.Boba_Fett_3710

:lol:Better than 360 games? No way. Nothing compares to hd

You should see 1080p, nothing else even compares.  I've got a 360 via VGA in 1080p, a PS3 via HDMI in 1080p, and a Wii via componet in 480p, and it looks like trash, the Wii does.

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"][QUOTE="ironwarrior2"]

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]It's been posted but I agree. Wasn't Rebel Strike a launch game? Some say it still looks better than alot of 360 launch titles.ironwarrior2

:lol:Better than 360 games? No way. Nothing compares to hd

You should see 1080p, nothing else even compares. I've got a 360 via VGA in 1080p, a PS3 via HDMI in 1080p, and a Wii via componet in 480p, and it looks like trash, the Wii does.

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"][QUOTE="ironwarrior2"]

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]It's been posted but I agree. Wasn't Rebel Strike a launch game? Some say it still looks better than alot of 360 launch titles.ironwarrior2

:lol:Better than 360 games? No way. Nothing compares to hd

You should see 1080p, nothing else even compares.  I've got a 360 via VGA in 1080p, a PS3 via HDMI in 1080p, and a Wii via componet in 480p, and it looks like trash, the Wii does.

[QUOTE="ironwarrior2"][QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"][QUOTE="ironwarrior2"]

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]It's been posted but I agree. Wasn't Rebel Strike a launch game? Some say it still looks better than alot of 360 launch titles.danneswegman

:lol:Better than 360 games? No way. Nothing compares to hd

You should see 1080p, nothing else even compares.  I've got a 360 via VGA in 1080p, a PS3 via HDMI in 1080p, and a Wii via componet in 480p, and it looks like trash, the Wii does.

Yes, I know.  True 1080p games are being developed and will soon release on both consoles.  Lost Planet supports 1080p, but I haven't played it yet.

[QUOTE="danneswegman"][QUOTE="ironwarrior2"][QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"][QUOTE="ironwarrior2"]

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]It's been posted but I agree. Wasn't Rebel Strike a launch game? Some say it still looks better than alot of 360 launch titles.ironwarrior2

:lol:Better than 360 games? No way. Nothing compares to hd

You should see 1080p, nothing else even compares.  I've got a 360 via VGA in 1080p, a PS3 via HDMI in 1080p, and a Wii via componet in 480p, and it looks like trash, the Wii does.

Yes, I know.  True 1080p games are being developed and will soon release on both consoles.  Lost Planet supports 1080p, but I haven't played it yet.

[QUOTE="venture00"] Resident Evil 4 was a beautiful GCN title. Rogue Squadron was doing things at launch that developers still haven't done on Wii. Why do you think that is? Are studios getting sloppy on Wii?

Julian: Yes. I'm so disappointed knowing exactly what the Wii can do -- and I still think nobody knows it better than we (no pun intended) [laughs]. I really have to say, boy, am I disappointed! They all have finally figured out, five years into the hardware's life cycle, how to do at least basic shaders and a rim light, but that's what everybody does. But I still don't see enough bump and normal-mapping, if any. I still don't see enough post effects, although you would have insane fill-rates with Wii. I don't see any of that. I was digging out Rebel Strike the other day and was looking at it, and we had some people who were visiting ask, "Why isn't anybody else doing this on Wii?" And I am at a loss. I really am.

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Pangster007

i dont think they have been sloppy with the wii at all what you see is what you get with specs like the wii!daveg1

 Resident Evil 4 was a beautiful GCN title. Rogue Squadron was doing things at launch that developers still haven't done on Wii. Why do you think that is? Are studios getting sloppy on Wii?venture00

I would give that answer an absolute yes...but it's not all that surprising.   First of all, nobody expected another Nintendo console to do well at all.  Not even close.  Developers had all but written off Nintendo after the N64 and GC.  And as we all know, there are quotes from developers saying they were taken off guard by the potential of teh Wii and are jumping onto the bandwagon late.

Second, anyone rushing to get a Wii game out will either fall into two categories.  They will either (1) over focus on the remote and make a game that isn't very good but has a lot of remote actions in it, or (2) they will dump a half-assed port on the console with some remote actions tacked on.    In fact, this is pretty much what a lot of the games are.

Where second and third gen console like the 360 and PS3 will see developers advance the graphics, the same for Wii will advance the gameplay by combining graphics and the Wiimote.  In other words, while with regular consoles it takes a couple waves of games before you see the true graphical potential...the same is true of the wii and it's own unique style of games.

So yes, developers WERE sloppy as they rushed to release a game on the Wii as soon as they could.  However, by the end of the year there will be a stream of titles that are way better and showcase what the Wii can do.

It's been posted but I agree. Wasn't Rebel Strike a launch game? Some say it still looks better than alot of 360 launch titles.Boba_Fett_3710

Rogue Squadron 2 : Rogue Leader was the launch title Rogue Squadron 3: Rebel Strike came out later and your crazy to think it compares to 360 launch titles except for stuff like Gun.

[QUOTE="ironwarrior2"][QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"][QUOTE="ironwarrior2"]

[QUOTE="Boba_Fett_3710"]It's been posted but I agree. Wasn't Rebel Strike a launch game? Some say it still looks better than alot of 360 launch titles.danneswegman

:lol:Better than 360 games? No way. Nothing compares to hd

You should see 1080p, nothing else even compares. I've got a 360 via VGA in 1080p, a PS3 via HDMI in 1080p, and a Wii via componet in 480p, and it looks like trash, the Wii does.