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#1 Gifford38
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https://www.ign.com/articles/tomb-raider-3-remaster-seems-to-quietly-edit-out-lara-croft-pinup-posters-in-recent-patch

so sick of western developers. I say we boycott these developers that don't look at there targeting audience. who complains about this? why do they win or matter? they don't even play video games. sad world we line in need to censor yet only fans is all over the place or x rated pop ups on your phones or facebook.

surprised they didn't update it so she has a men's jaw line.

funny how quietly they did it because they know they are wrong for it.

what do you say system wars should we start pulling a bud light on these western developers and start boycotting them?

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#2 Archangel3371
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Meh. Can’t say I’m really all that bothered by this one way or the other to be honest. 🤷‍♂️

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#3  Edited By Warm_Gun
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"No fun allowed," say these ideologues. Can you imagine how insufferable one must be around other people that something like this bothers them so much that they had to do this, knowing the reaction it would get?

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#4 Silentchief
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Just let them die. Western developers will continue to struggle until they purge leftist puritans from their companies.

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#6 navyguy21
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Lol, they are just the making things easier for modders lol

Now they don't have to remove or cover textures before adding real nudes.

Good job guys, you failed successfully

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#7 Chutebox
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It's dumb, but doesn't effect me. However, people thinking this will not escalate into others things are hilarious.

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#8 Gifford38
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@Chutebox said:

It's dumb, but doesn't effect me. However, people thinking this will not escalate into others things are hilarious.

Thats the only reason this bothers me. I could careless about these posters but what does the future hold in video games if this has to get a quiet update.

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#9  Edited By Last_Lap
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@gifford38: Have you bought the remasters, or are you one of those that is just getting angry so you can wave your fist and scream woke?

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#10 DaVillain  Moderator  Online
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Strange, it seems odd they went to a lot of trouble just to remove a few couple of harmless posters. We know that there's the reason why but they might have done it, but could it be because due to copyright instead? I think Aspyr ought to explain why they removed the posters, because doing it like this isn't helping their image? Especially after the disaster from Battlefront launch.

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#11 Heil68
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Those bastards

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#12 judaspete
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That's kinda dumb. If they were going to do this, they should have been cut before release. Must have been a decision from someone high up that didn't know they were there until after. But really, they were part of the old games and didn't need to be removed.

That said, kind of a nothing burger. Very little effect on the game. If it's important enough to you for a boycott, go for it I guess. I still plan to play these one day.

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#13 lamprey263
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Dumb, but I'm not going to make a big deal about it either.

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#14 onesiphorus
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Interesting how the ideological attitudes of the users on this forum have different takes on the removal of the Lara Croft posters, with the right-leaning users here take issue with it due to censorship concerns while the left-leaning users see it as a "nothing burger."

I thought that the developers had said that they will retain the "objectable" content in the Tomb Raider games, but removing the posters contradicts what they said. Not only that, but they did not give a reason for why they removed them through a recent update.

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#15 ShadyAcshuns
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Oh they've just gotten started ruining Ms. Croft.

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#16  Edited By Pedro
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Fragile gamers are hilarious.And now they want to cancel the game, the irony.

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#17 Gifford38
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@Pedro: I'm not fragile. My god ok So tell me then. What is the reason or the point of if? Since you made like it makes since tell me. If it doesn't bother you tell why it makes since.

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#18 Pedro
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@gifford38: More like you should elaborate why a silly poster that is irrelevant to the experience and most gamers never notice nor care about is all of a sudden an issue and a gross injustice?🤔

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#19 Gifford38
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@last_lap: no but I did buy hfw2 expecting the same person but instead got a male jaw bone alloy. Did I once say woke? No it's the fact we can't get the same game. You know remastered. Just to please what can't be more than 20 people lol.

It's stupid to point that if I say something people think I'm stupid. I shouldn't have to say something because. omg ready for it? It shouldn't been done period. Period and I think people should stand up to get our nastogia the way it was made.

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#20  Edited By Last_Lap
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@gifford38: I've played (and finished the first HZD game) and she's not a looker, but I skipped all cutscenes and was playing the gane with her back to me, so I didn't notice too much, as for the second game, didn't buy it and don't care what she looks like.

As for TR, well buy the OG's and you can play to your uncensored hearts content, problem solved.

To me it's a mountain out of a mole hill on the scale of what's wrong with video games today.

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#21 Mozelleple112
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Damn woke bastards

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#22  Edited By Litchie
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Phew. Someone could've seen it and become a serial killer. Or a woman hater. We're so lucky to be protected like this.

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#23 freedomfreak  Online
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Why even bother with a trigger warning, then? Not that it wasn't laughable to begin with.

When it comes down to it, video games are for children. Shouldn't be surprised with these mommydaddy companies deciding what people can and can't see. I can't imagine how obnoxious it must be to work at that place. Nazis.

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#24 Black96Z
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@Pedro: wouldn't it be fair to say the people complaining about "hot chicks" in video games are the ones being fragile?

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#25  Edited By uninspiredcup
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The problem I have with this is that had they done it pre-launch, I wouldn't care.

It's the fact they went in, after I bought the game and removed and edited content. Doesn't really matter if you're some fucking, frothing at the mouth incel or batshit insane pink haired Resetera user, that's bullshit.

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#26 Gifford38
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@Pedro said:

@gifford38: More like you should elaborate why a silly poster that is irrelevant to the experience and most gamers never notice nor care about is all of a sudden an issue and a gross injustice?🤔

most gamers never notice yet its on ign.

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#27 Pedro
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@gifford38: So you can't elaborate.

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#28 Gifford38
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so I guess everyone like females with male jaw lines and censoring our games.

the new artist said he had to draw her with a male jaw line for the trans people.

but gamers like that I guess.

especially Pedro and last lap. they love these new female looks.

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#29 SecretPolice
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lol :P

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#30 Pedro
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@gifford38 said:

so I guess everyone like females with male jaw lines and censoring our games.

the new artist said he had to draw her with a male jaw line for the trans people.

but gamers like that I guess.

especially Pedro and last lap. they love these new female looks.

Fragile man strikes again.😂

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#31 pixieValerie
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Why though? The game is already rated M and released with them in and I doubt anyone's getting offended by them. Dumb shit like this annoys me.

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#32 Gifford38
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@Pedro said:
@gifford38 said:

so I guess everyone like females with male jaw lines and censoring our games.

the new artist said he had to draw her with a male jaw line for the trans people.

but gamers like that I guess.

especially Pedro and last lap. they love these new female looks.

Fragile man strikes again.😂

nope I have balls to say something. everyone is scared to stick up to these elites that is pushing this gender stuff and for freedom of speech again. I stand up for woman like Gina Carano. fragile man does not own a desert eagle,shotgun, and ak-47.

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#33 Pedro
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@gifford38 said:

nope I have balls to say something. everyone is scared to stick up to these elites that is pushing this gender stuff and for freedom of speech again. I stand up for woman like Gina Carano. fragile man does not own a desert eagle,shotgun, and ak-47.

So, you believe that owning a gun makes you less fragile?😂

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#34 Gifford38
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@Pedro said:
@gifford38 said:

nope I have balls to say something. everyone is scared to stick up to these elites that is pushing this gender stuff and for freedom of speech again. I stand up for woman like Gina Carano. fragile man does not own a desert eagle,shotgun, and ak-47.

So, you believe that owning a gun makes you less fragile?😂

funny how other people in here think its stupid to yet im the only one fragile what ever.

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#35  Edited By Gifford38
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@pixievalerie said:

Why though? The game is already rated M and released with them in and I doubt anyone's getting offended by them. Dumb shit like this annoys me.

watch out pedro going to call you fragile man for being annoyed.

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#36  Edited By Pedro
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@gifford38 said:

funny how other people in here think its stupid to yet im the only one fragile what ever.

You are the one that created the thread crying about pixelated pinups and subbing to cancel culture.🤷🏽‍♂️

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@last_lap said:

@gifford38: I've played (and finished the first HZD game) and she's not a looker, but I skipped all cutscenes and was playing the gane with her back to me, so I didn't notice too much, as for the second game, didn't buy it and don't care what she looks like.

As for TR, well buy the OG's and you can play to your uncensored hearts content, problem solved.

To me it's a mountain out of a mole hill on the scale of what's wrong with video games today.

I thought alloy was perfect in the first game. pretty but not omg in your face pretty like steller blade. no reason to change her. worst one is mary jane from spiderman 1 to 2.

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#38 Gifford38
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@Pedro said:
@gifford38 said:

funny how other people in here think its stupid to yet im the only one fragile what ever.

You are the one that created the thread crying about pixelated pinups and subbing to cancel culture.🤷🏽‍♂️

put yet others agree with me. its was a m rated game changed to teen. took out blood and all. yet its geared to 40 year olds nostalgia. again no reason for it.

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#39 Pedro
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@gifford38 said:

put yet others agree with me. its was a m rated game changed to teen. took out blood and all. yet its geared to 40 year olds nostalgia. again no reason for it.

You may have forgotten your hissy fit. Let me remind you

so sick of western developers. I say we boycott these developers that don't look at there targeting audience. who complains about this? why do they win or matter? they don't even play video games. sad world we line in need to censor yet only fans is all over the place or x rated pop ups on your phones or facebook.

surprised they didn't update it so she has a men's jaw line.

funny how quietly they did it because they know they are wrong for it.

what do you say system wars should we start pulling a bud light on these western developers and start boycotting them?

Cancel culture strikes again.🤷🏽‍♂️

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#40 Gifford38
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@Pedro said:
@gifford38 said:

put yet others agree with me. its was a m rated game changed to teen. took out blood and all. yet its geared to 40 year olds nostalgia. again no reason for it.

You may have forgotten your hissy fit. Let me remind you

so sick of western developers. I say we boycott these developers that don't look at there targeting audience. who complains about this? why do they win or matter? they don't even play video games. sad world we line in need to censor yet only fans is all over the place or x rated pop ups on your phones or facebook.

surprised they didn't update it so she has a men's jaw line.

funny how quietly they did it because they know they are wrong for it.

what do you say system wars should we start pulling a bud light on these western developers and start boycotting them?

Cancel culture strikes again.🤷🏽‍♂️

not a rissy fit. when you get twitters from a white female employee at bud lite talk crap about gen x white man and we don't matter and don't need them. thats when the boycott started because those gen x are 90% of there buyers. same with tomb raider developers saying im glad white men don't like the new model. again hating on there targeted audience. same with mcu. same with all entertainment like action movies targeting females yet thats what romantic comedy's are for. we done with this push lets hate white men narrative.

lol cancel culture nothing to do with that.

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#41 Pedro
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@gifford38: So you are fragile and an advocate of cancel culture(boycotting).

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#42 Warm_Gun
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Pedro is pretty cringey.

I just don't understand how, as a business, they can be so ideological that they would reject/forgo massively lucrative sex appeal (where it fits). Their job is to make money. Goes for all of them, not just Crystal/Aspyr.

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#43 Planeforger
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Wait, holy shit, you guys are being serious.

You're actually, genuinely in tears over this change. That's incredible.

I can imagine 12 year olds caring, but adults? You'd have to be *really* deep down some toxic YouTube hole if this bothers you in the slightest.

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#44 Pedro
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@warm_gun said:

Pedro is pretty cringey.

I just don't understand how, as a business, they can be so ideological that they would reject/forgo massively lucrative sex appeal (where it fits). Their job is to make money. Goes for all of them, not just Crystal/Aspyr.

Cringey? Are you serious? Your argument is that the removal of this poster which the absolute majority of gamers would not have missed is going to cost these companies money because gamers bought the game for these low res pinups? Y'all are silly.😂

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#45 Agent_Stroud
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@Planeforger: The anti-woke rabbit hole clearly takes a toll on one’s ability to act like a normal, well-adjusted adult. 😏

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#46  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@warm_gun said:

Pedro is pretty cringey.

I just don't understand how, as a business, they can be so ideological that they would reject/forgo massively lucrative sex appeal (where it fits). Their job is to make money. Goes for all of them, not just Crystal/Aspyr.

As unlikely as it sounds, it could be a licensing issue. This wouldn't be the first time either, Grand Theft Auto removed tracks. And many of these Lara Croft renders at the time were in magazines and such, not rendered directly by Eidos.

This of course,, purely speculation.

However, my issue is developers, thanks to how things work not "you not owning the game", the ability to arbitrarily remove shit on a whim after release where they can dish out patches on Steam with no option to revert and generally speaking, no warning etc...

Ideally you want options.

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#47 Miquella
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New normal

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#48 AcidTango
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Looks like the posters will be brought back again

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2024/04/tomb-raider-i-iii-remastered-will-restore-missing-posters-in-patch-3

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#49  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Yep. It was wrong to remove content post-launch.

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#50 AcidTango
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@uninspiredcup said:

Yep. It was wrong to remove content post-launch.

Asypr claims that the posters were accidentally removed because the previous update caused that to happen, but I don't believe them.

Don't get me wrong, removing the posters doesn't ruin the entire game anyways since it wasn't a gameplay feature or something, but the backlash that they got definitely forced them to bring them back again.