Lems. Activision gets a cut of your Xbox live fee.

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#1 BibiMaghoo
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How does that make you feel?

Good? I doubt that :lol:

Because of our Blizzard experience we have an incredible understanding of how important the provision of appropriate customer service is," Kotick said, citing 2,500 World of Warcraft customer service employees for the US and Europe alone. "What we'd like to ideally see is that the investment in the subscription fees going towards the provision of a higher level of customer service [...] to see some portion of the subscription fees go towards game enhancement." Activision does enjoy a "very modest amount of the subscription fees," Kotick told us, but he's more interested in seeing any cost increase in the service go towards "directly benefitting the Call of Duty players."

So, with $60 a year out the door for many Call of Duty players ? that would be those playing on Xbox 360, as opposed to PC or PlayStation 3 ? it's already a significant $5 a month expense and Activision has only snagged a "modest amount" of that $5.

From the horses mouth, or Bobby Koticks rather.

Lems, you are paying Activision part of your sub, regardless of if you play COD or not.

Are you happy with this?

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#2 PressXtoJump
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LMAO LEMS ARE GETTING OWNED LEFT AND RIGHT!!!! i sense the anger from the lems COMING HUAAAAAAAAAAAA!
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Oh no you didn't
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[QUOTE="PressXtoJump"]LMAO LEMS ARE GETTING OWNED LEFT AND RIGHT!!!! i sense the anger from the lems COMING HUAAAAAAAAAAAA!

I would guess that if they play alot of COD, it's no big deal. They do get the maps early after all. For those that do not play COD though, well, that is another issue entirely.
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#6 Eddie-Vedder
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ROFL That's some serious ownage which will most certainly provoke mass lem butthurt.

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Double facepalm picsts106mat
No input on this one dude? No trying to tell me that is not the case? Come on, I have an hour to spare :)
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^spamming denial in the form of a facepalm.jpg

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#10 GD1551
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Maybe that's how they get DLC first?

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#12 parkurtommo
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Maybe that's how they get DLC first?

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:O Lucky lems, I wish I could get a useless map pack a few weeks early :D
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#13 Badosh
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Cool.
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#14 casharmy
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I seriously doubt Lems care about how the money they spend to support thier gaming hobby with MS is used, they probably never did.

I say lems are stupid, but I doubt most of them actually belive MS uses the money they gets from them for online gameplay is used for anyting other than to line their pockets with free cash.

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[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"][QUOTE="sts106mat"]Double facepalm picsts106mat
No input on this one dude? No trying to tell me that is not the case? Come on, I have an hour to spare :)

where is the link, i cannot see where he specifically says "xbox live" the subscription fees, could be WoW fees? i am missing something here

Wow Fees from 360 only? when he specifically states ''those playing on Xbox 360, as opposed to PC or PlayStation 3'' ? Rofl dude. The full article is here: http://www.joystiq.com/2010/11/12/bobby-kotick-on-the-business-of-call-of-duty-dlc-treyarch-inf/
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#16 SaltyMeatballs
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Old, I thought he was talking about WoW subscriptions though, also a modest amount of $5 a month is probably to pay for the timed exclusive DLC; that doesn't come free I suppose.

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#17 BibiMaghoo
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I seriously doubt Lems care about how the money spend to support MS is used,.

casharmy
I'm not so sure. Paying MS for a service is one thing, paying Activision every month for 30 day early map packs is another, especially if you do not play COD.
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#18 BibiMaghoo
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Old, I thought he was talking about WoW subscriptions though, also a modest amount of $5 a month is probably to pay for the timed exclusive DLC; that doesn't come free I suppose.

SaltyMeatballs
Yeah, the article is old. I have never seen this pop up on SW's though. He is very clearly talking about 360 though, and that means it cannot be WOW.
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#19 tonitorsi
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Cool.Badosh

Nah it isn't

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#20 Giancar
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  1. Old
  2. 90% of Activision bussiness tactics smell like ***
  3. Paying for Live smells like ***
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#21 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]

Old, I thought he was talking about WoW subscriptions though, also a modest amount of $5 a month is probably to pay for the timed exclusive DLC; that doesn't come free I suppose.

BibiMaghoo
Yeah, the article is old. I have never seen this pop up on SW's though. He is very clearly talking about 360 though, and that means it cannot be WOW.

Not that clear, you should link the whole article in the OP next time.
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#22 casharmy
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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

I seriously doubt Lems care about how the money spend to support MS is used,.

BibiMaghoo

I'm not so sure. Paying MS for a service is one thing, paying Activision every month for 30 day early map packs is another, especially if you do not play COD.

like I said, I doubt they care. You are speaking from a personal perseptive. I might think that and you might think that...but I am talking about xbox360/MS fans/fanboys.

Honestly, if they actually had any principels to how their money was spent on it in the first place, would they ever sit and try to justify paying $60 for something that is free on every other competitors alternative...Think about that!!!!!

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Nah it isn'ttonitorsi
You determine what I think is cool? How odd.
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#24 Nohtnym
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[QUOTE="casharmy"]

I seriously doubt Lems care about how the money spend to support MS is used,.

BibiMaghoo

I'm not so sure. Paying MS for a service is one thing, paying Activision every month for 30 day early map packs is another, especially if you do not play COD.

You pay for xbox live gold, not cod dlc to be timed exclusive for 360. Microsoft uses some of that gold live money for it. Even though microsoft would stop paying for mw/cod dlc to be time exclusive, that doesnt mean xbox live gold price would drop.

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#25 BibiMaghoo
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[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]

Old, I thought he was talking about WoW subscriptions though, also a modest amount of $5 a month is probably to pay for the timed exclusive DLC; that doesn't come free I suppose.

SaltyMeatballs
Yeah, the article is old. I have never seen this pop up on SW's though. He is very clearly talking about 360 though, and that means it cannot be WOW.

Not that clear, you should link the whole article in the OP next time.

The whole article is massive dude. It would be half the page easy.
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]

Old, I thought he was talking about WoW subscriptions though, also a modest amount of $5 a month is probably to pay for the timed exclusive DLC; that doesn't come free I suppose.

BibiMaghoo

Yeah, the article is old. I have never seen this pop up on SW's though. He is very clearly talking about 360 though, and that means it cannot be WOW.

sounds like you're trying to claim damage control here.

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[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"] Yeah, the article is old. I have never seen this pop up on SW's though. He is very clearly talking about 360 though, and that means it cannot be WOW.

Not that clear, you should link the whole article in the OP next time.

The whole article is massive dude. It would be half the page easy.

I said link it, you need a source when you post things like this on SW's.
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#28 BibiMaghoo
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[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"][QUOTE="casharmy"]

I seriously doubt Lems care about how the money spend to support MS is used,.

Nohtnym

I'm not so sure. Paying MS for a service is one thing, paying Activision every month for 30 day early map packs is another, especially if you do not play COD.

You pay for xbox live gold, not cod dlc to be timed exclusive for 360. Microsoft uses some of that gold live money for it. Even though microsoft would stop paying for mw/cod dlc to be time exclusive, that doesnt mean xbox live gold price would drop.

Does that matter? If EVERYONE paying for gold is paying Activision for those maps EVERY MONTH. ? By paying gold, you are giving a portion of that money to Activision for every month out of the year. It is therefore arguably more expensive as a result.
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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] Not that clear, you should link the whole article in the OP next time.

The whole article is massive dude. It would be half the page easy.

I said link it, you need a source when you post things like this on SW's.

You are right, my bad. I read your post as asking me to paste the whole article, which would have been a mess. But yes, I should have linked it in the OP.
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[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]

Old, I thought he was talking about WoW subscriptions though, also a modest amount of $5 a month is probably to pay for the timed exclusive DLC; that doesn't come free I suppose.

TheShadowLord07

Yeah, the article is old. I have never seen this pop up on SW's though. He is very clearly talking about 360 though, and that means it cannot be WOW.

sounds like you're trying to claim damage control here.

Me lol? How can I be trying to DC? Explain.
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#31 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"] The whole article is massive dude. It would be half the page easy.

I said link it, you need a source when you post things like this on SW's.

You are right, my bad. I read your post as asking me to paste the whole article, which would have been a mess. But yes, I should have linked it in the OP.

Go ahead and link it before they find more excuses.
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[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"] Yeah, the article is old. I have never seen this pop up on SW's though. He is very clearly talking about 360 though, and that means it cannot be WOW. BibiMaghoo

sounds like you're trying to claim damage control here.

Me lol? How can I be trying to DC? Explain.

uh for posting an old article?

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[QUOTE="Nohtnym"]

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"] I'm not so sure. Paying MS for a service is one thing, paying Activision every month for 30 day early map packs is another, especially if you do not play COD. BibiMaghoo

You pay for xbox live gold, not cod dlc to be timed exclusive for 360. Microsoft uses some of that gold live money for it. Even though microsoft would stop paying for mw/cod dlc to be time exclusive, that doesnt mean xbox live gold price would drop.

Does that matter? If EVERYONE paying for gold is paying Activision for those maps EVERY MONTH. ? By paying gold, you are giving a portion of that money to Activision for every month out of the year. It is therefore arguably more expensive as a result.

Microsoft gets profit from xbox live gold, they use some of that profit to pay for mw/cod dlc to be timed exclusive. In the hopes that people buy mw/cod (and the dlc) for 360, which gives the more profit.

Even though microsoft wouldnt pay mw/cod dlc to be timed exclusive, doesnt mean that xbox live gold price would drop.

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#34 CanYouDiglt
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So where is the link?
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#35 BibiMaghoo
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[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"][QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]sounds like you're trying to claim damage control here.

TheShadowLord07

Me lol? How can I be trying to DC? Explain.

uh for posting an old article?

But the point remains? What do I have to DC lmfao?
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#36 BibiMaghoo
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So where is the link?CanYouDiglt
On the first page....
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Why would I care?
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Lems are known to enjoy getting screwed over again and again. :lol:

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#39 CanYouDiglt
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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]So where is the link?BibiMaghoo
On the first page....

Ya I just saw. You are a sad sad person pulling up 2 year old links in order top start a thread to bash the 360.
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Microsoft gets profit from xbox live gold, they use some of that profit to pay for mw/cod dlc to be timed exclusive. In the hopes that people buy mw/cod (and the dlc) for 360, which gives the more profit.

Even though microsoft wouldnt pay mw/cod dlc to be timed exclusive, doesnt mean that xbox live gold price would drop.

Nohtnym

The price of live went up shortly before this article, and Kotick stating they get a cut of the fee. Ergo, the price increased to accomodate Activisions fee. You can argue it would not be less, but I can argue it would not have gone up in the first place.

July - Kotick says majority of Live users play CoD and Activision gets no cut of subscription fees, he wants it

August - Microsoft announces XBL price hike

November - XBL price hike goes into effect (a week before Black Ops release)

November 12 - Kotick now says they get a cut of subscription fees

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I'm gonna go ahead and not care about this. At all.

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#42 TheShadowLord07
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So where is the link?CanYouDiglt

here you go

link

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#43 BibiMaghoo
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[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]So where is the link?CanYouDiglt
On the first page....

Ya I just saw. You are a sad sad person pulling up 2 year old links in order top start a thread to bash the 360.

I only found out about this today, and I would wager than many 360 owners have no idea that Activision are getting a cut of that monthly sub. Call that sad all you want, but I assume you are paying it :lol: That is sadder.
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#45 TheShadowLord07
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[QUOTE="TheShadowLord07"]

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"] Me lol? How can I be trying to DC? Explain. BibiMaghoo

uh for posting an old article?

But the point remains? What do I have to DC lmfao?

you posted an old which you already admitted on here just to put lems on a "suicide watch". how is that not damage controlling?

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#46 parkurtommo
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What's so bad about an old article

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#47 Eddie-Vedder
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lol@butthurt lem damage control.

They ask for links cause they don't know about this, but then when they see it's true, they claim it's old :lol:

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[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] where is the link, i cannot see where he specifically says "xbox live" the subscription fees, could be WoW fees? i am missing something herests106mat

Wow Fees from 360 only? when he specifically states ''those playing on Xbox 360, as opposed to PC or PlayStation 3'' ? Rofl dude. The full article is here: http://www.joystiq.com/2010/11/12/bobby-kotick-on-the-business-of-call-of-duty-dlc-treyarch-inf/

lol an old article, whats your next thread going to be about ? RROD

:lol:

Bu bu bu but it's old!!1!!111

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LOL at activision, microsoft and their defenders.