Very impressive reveal from Sony. Completely destroyed MS's multiplat non-gameplay reveal.

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#1 blueinheaven
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It's difficult to see what ammunition MS could possibly have to respond to that with their next reveal which will be Halo and... probably Spencer shouting 'World Premier' with a clip from Watchdog Legion or some other multiplat.

I think they'll fight them on price and of course they have Gamepass which actually is quite a big deal. Most of their new studios are making indie quality trash though we may get a nice surprise with a new Fable game but that's just me being optimistic.

If we're honest though, that was a reveal from a company that makes videogames. MS reveal was a desperate attempt to stay vaguely relevant led by the stupendously incompetent Spencer who after all these years still doesn't realise a games console needs fucking games.

My prediction for next gen: Sony - business as usual, AAA videogames is their target. MS - now relegated to renting other people's games out on a monthly basis, hoping to get some of the casual Netflix crowd to buy into their monthly games rental service.

Of course you'll get Halo Infinite and another Gears a few years down the line but from what I'm seeing so far it's pretty much game over.

GAME OVER MAN!

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@blueinheaven said:

If we're honest though, that was a reveal from a company that makes videogames.

You can tell... What high school graphic design student designed that console?

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@lundy86_4 said:
@blueinheaven said:

If we're honest though, that was a reveal from a company that makes videogames.

You can tell... What high school graphic design student designed that console?

It looks totally futuristic. Yeah, it looks a bit shit. I'm not in the habit of staring at hardware instead of the TV while I play games though. Are you?

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So, you have seen MS first party games in July. Interesting.

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Yeah I thought it was a solid showing.

A good variety of games, a good amount showed gameplay, lots of new reveals.

Ironically the games that caught my interest were mostly multiplats, but still. Good showing all around.

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@blueinheaven said:

It looks totally futuristic. Yeah, it looks a bit shit. I'm not in the habit of staring at hardware instead of the TV while I play games though. Are you?

Nah, more in the habit of just calling out shit.

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#8 blueinheaven
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So, you have seen MS first party games in July. Interesting.

I saw them before that. You missed their earlier reveal? Most of their studios are working on low quality Game Pass filler content. Go watch it yourself.

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Was very meh. Nothing system-selling.

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Weren't all the PS5 launch games on PC except for 1 game?...

What games are you talking about that are only on PS5?... A sequal?...

Aside from indie games, multi platform games and games also on PC Sony only showed 2-3 games and only 1 is a launch game.

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@blueinheaven: So, the answer is no. Figured as much.

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@lundy86_4 said:
@blueinheaven said:

It looks totally futuristic. Yeah, it looks a bit shit. I'm not in the habit of staring at hardware instead of the TV while I play games though. Are you?

Nah, more in the habit of just calling out shit.

Do you stare at your PC while playing games? Calling out a bit of shit here...

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@Pedro said:

@blueinheaven: So, the answer is no. Figured as much.

They did an earlier reveal showing what their studios are working on. Google it. It's shite.

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Yep, it was a pretty solid showing of some great games. Don’t particularly care for the design of the system though.

Still really looking forward to Microsoft’s showing next. That previous one wasn’t really their “big” show though so I’m expecting much more from the main one.

I love Halo/Gears/Forza so seeing anything from those is enough to get me giddy. Also I expect some surprises from their new studios and some strong third party stuff.

The game is very far from being over.

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@blueinheaven said:

Do you stare at your PC while playing games? Calling out a bit of shit here...

No, I actually have some semblance of aesthetics, and can thus call out some wonky-ass shit. Same with a few people on this board, as is apparent in the OG thread lol. Regardless, the show was decent. A few decent showings, but nothing outright mind-blowing. Bluepoint on Demon's Souls is next-level a good decision... They need to be given some free reign and develop something on their own.

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Weren't all the PS5 launch games on PC except for 1 game?...

What games are you talking about that are only on PS5?... A sequal?...

Aside from indie games, multi platform games and games also on PC Sony only showed 2-3 games and only 1 is a launch game.

Spiderman, GT, Ratchet and Clank, Horizon... why are you only talking about launch games as though they are the only games the console will ever have?

Point is, it was a good look at what they intend to do. MS showed literally fucking nothing because that is the total sum of what they have.

Also, please learn to read. I'm talking about PS5 v Xbox, MS don't 'own' PC.

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It was a much better debut than the Xbox showing, yes. We have to wait for the REAL Xbox games showcase in July.

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#18 blueinheaven
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Yep, it was a pretty solid showing of some great games. Don’t particularly care for the design of the system though.

Still really looking forward to Microsoft’s showing next. That previous one wasn’t really their “big” show though so I’m expecting much more from the main one.

I love Halo/Gears/Forza so seeing anything from those is enough to get me giddy. Also I expect some surprises from their new studios and some strong third party stuff.

The game is very far from being over.

I love Halo but hated Halo 5 and Gears 5 was just bland. Good but bland. That's not to say Infinite won't be great but they'd need to have a major rethink after 5.

Personally hoping for a new Fable, pretty much all I'm asking from them. Hopes and expectations are at an all time low with MS at the moment.

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It was a show that confirmed I probably won't buy a PS5 until 2022 or when the mid gen refresh comes.

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@blueinheaven said:

It's difficult to see what ammunition MS could possibly have to respond to that with their next reveal which will be Halo and... probably Spencer shouting 'World Premier' with a clip from Watchdog Legion or some other multiplat.

I think they'll fight them on price and of course they have Gamepass which actually is quite a big deal. Most of their new studios are making indie quality trash though we may get a nice surprise with a new Fable game but that's just me being optimistic.

If we're honest though, that was a reveal from a company that makes videogames. MS reveal was a desperate attempt to stay vaguely relevant led by the stupendously incompetent Spencer who after all these years still doesn't realise a games console needs fucking games.

My prediction for next gen: Sony - business as usual, AAA videogames is their target. MS - now relegated to renting other people's games out on a monthly basis, hoping to get some of the casual Netflix crowd to buy into their monthly games rental service.

Of course you'll get Halo Infinite and another Gears a few years down the line but from what I'm seeing so far it's pretty much game over.

GAME OVER MAN!

Who knew that one person could dribble so much shit, congrats I guess lol.

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#21 raugutcon
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So, finally we saw it. Now:

- Is it going to be QUIET ?!?! or, is it going to roar like a friggin jet about to take off like the PS4 Fat and Pro

- Is it going to have USB ports in the back or going to keep those nonsensical and stupid ONLY 2 ports in the front, because I hate to conect external storage on the front of the console

- All those curves ..... lots of neat crevices for every single dust particle to settle on

- Is it going to have a flat side ? so you can place it horizontaly you know.

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@fedor said:

It was a show that confirmed I probably won't buy a PS5 until 2022 or when the mid gen refresh comes.

That's the good thing about consoles, no rush to buy them. Wait for the exclusives to pile up before jumping in. So you can buy a Series X in 2032 lol.

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The new Xbox does look better, but when it comes to games... Sony just buried MS alive .

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Okay guys I'm out. Feel free to destroy me while I'm gone, you horrible people!

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@blueinheaven said:
@Pedro said:

@blueinheaven: So, the answer is no. Figured as much.

They did an earlier reveal showing what their studios are working on. Google it. It's shite.

Then feel free to link to the earlier showing of what their studios are working on.

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@blueinheaven: Sonys reveal put 3rd party, indies and 1st party games along with the tumor reveal all together....

Ms only showed 3rd party partners last month, so comparing the two shows is silly.

Having said that, there was no more gameplay today than in MS's reveal....and the bonus is you dont need a paper bag to hide the xsx like you do for the tumorstation 5.

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As I was saying in the other thread, this was the best game show in years. Sony knocked it out of the park.

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@blueinheaven said:
@Pedro said:

@blueinheaven: So, the answer is no. Figured as much.

They did an earlier reveal showing what their studios are working on. Google it. It's shite.

I always look into my case, just me I guess. But let's be honest, if XSX and PS5 were pink covered with black spots, no one would buy them.

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@ConanTheStoner said:

Yeah I thought it was a solid showing.

A good variety of games, a good amount showed gameplay, lots of new reveals.

Ironically the games that caught my interest were mostly multiplats, but still. Good showing all around.

Ironic but expected.

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#30  Edited By Fedor
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@sealionact said:

@blueinheaven: Sonys reveal put 3rd party, indies and 1st party games along with the tumor reveal all together....

Ms only showed 3rd party partners last month, so comparing the two shows is silly.

Having said that, there was no more gameplay today than in MS's reveal....and the bonus is you dont need a paper bag to hide the xsx like you do for the tumorstation 5.

Lol, there was way more gameplay shown here.

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@daredevils2k: Xbox is just a bland fridge shape, not sure if serious. At least Sony has a bold design.

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#32  Edited By Fedor
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@Sagemode87: They both have bold designs, XSX looks better.

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@blueinheaven: It sounds like Playground Games are all but confirmed to be working on a new Fable game so I’m fully expecting to see something on that.

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@lundy86_4: And still look better than the Xbox which look quite fatter than the PS5,I'm surprise it was that thin.

Some of you are trying to hard,trying to say the design look bad,there hasn't been a single friend of mine who hasn't send me the damn picture,this are more casual people who don't post in forums and they love it.

As always people here would make a scene and act like it is horrible,nor the Xbox or PS5 have traditional design for a reason they run to hot for small cases,I would prefer an uggly machine that run cooler than a good looking one that runs hot.

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@fedor said:

It was a show that confirmed I probably won't buy a PS5 until 2022 or when the mid gen refresh comes.

Yup. Gonna take that long for some of the games we saw today to come out.

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I'm happy enough with PlayStation Studios so far

Yes , I don't see why not -

  • Spider-Man Miles Morales
  • Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart
  • Sackboy A Big Adventure
  • Astro's Playroom
  • Demon's Souls
  • Horizon II Forbidden West

Maybe , maybe not (hard to say with new IP and first looks) -

  • Returnal - (I like Housemarque)
  • Destruction Allstars

Not my cup of tea -

  • Gran Turismo 7
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They better have an all black model to hide the ugliness of that thing. It looks like something a year two design student would come up with and get a C.

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@blueinheaven said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

Weren't all the PS5 launch games on PC except for 1 game?...

What games are you talking about that are only on PS5?... A sequal?...

Aside from indie games, multi platform games and games also on PC Sony only showed 2-3 games and only 1 is a launch game.

Spiderman, GT, Ratchet and Clank, Horizon... why are you only talking about launch games as though they are the only games the console will ever have?

Point is, it was a good look at what they intend to do. MS showed literally fucking nothing because that is the total sum of what they have.

Also, please learn to read. I'm talking about PS5 v Xbox, MS don't 'own' PC.

All those games are sequels.

You act as if Sony just threw out games that are so advance and different to current generation games and are only available on PS5 when in reality 90% of what they showed looks current generation and is available on PC.

Your argument is flawed because MS hasn't shown anything.

Launch games and launch price MAKES a huge impact to a buyer... Not fanboys who just buy a console day one and look collect dust till a game they want comes out.

Till we know the price of both consoles and we see the launch games for both console we won't know the full picture... If Sony comes out with the same games as XSX minus 1-2 exclusives and vice versa its no different to what we have now.

The PS4 only started selling after games people wanted came out for it, for the first 2 years the X1 and PS4 were neck and neck in sales.

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@Pedro:

You mean the multiplatfom games that doesn't require and Xbox series X at all?

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@tormentos said:

@lundy86_4: And still look better than the Xbox which look quite fatter than the PS5,I'm surprise it was that thin.

Some of you are trying to hard,trying to say the design look bad,there hasn't been a single friend of mine who hasn't send me the damn picture,this are more casual people who don't post in forums and they love it.

As always people here would make a scene and act like it is horrible,nor the Xbox or PS5 have traditional design for a reason they run to hot for small cases,I would prefer an uggly machine that run cooler than a good looking one that runs hot.

Dude, it doesn't hold a candle to the XSX from a design standpoint. There was a lesson you were taught in graphic design where you draw a square or a rectangle, and draw squiggly lines from all angles, and then take the "best" looking shapes and design your product around that... That's high school graphic design.

Your inability to differentiate "okay" designs from outright "shit" designs isn't really a problem for others.

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@blueinheaven said:

It's difficult to see what ammunition MS could possibly have to respond to that with their next reveal which will be Halo and... probably Spencer shouting 'World Premier' with a clip from Watchdog Legion or some other multiplat.

I think they'll fight them on price and of course they have Gamepass which actually is quite a big deal. Most of their new studios are making indie quality trash though we may get a nice surprise with a new Fable game but that's just me being optimistic.

If we're honest though, that was a reveal from a company that makes videogames. MS reveal was a desperate attempt to stay vaguely relevant led by the stupendously incompetent Spencer who after all these years still doesn't realise a games console needs fucking games.

My prediction for next gen: Sony - business as usual, AAA videogames is their target. MS - now relegated to renting other people's games out on a monthly basis, hoping to get some of the casual Netflix crowd to buy into their monthly games rental service.

Of course you'll get Halo Infinite and another Gears a few years down the line but from what I'm seeing so far it's pretty much game over.

GAME OVER MAN!

The only game they showed that I want is NB2K21 and I'll be able to get that on Switch and XSX when the time comes. Not a fan of Ratchet, GT or Horizon. I'm still waiting on the killer exclusive that makes me upgrade to a PS5

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@fedor:

Nothing they would have show would have convince you,that is how fanbosym work.

They could had all those games on launch and still haters would find a way to downplay it.

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@tormentos said:

@Pedro:

You mean the multiplatfom games that doesn't require and Xbox series X at all?

You need to put context in your response man.

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@tormentos said:

@fedor:

Nothing they would have show would have convince you,that is how fanbosym work.

They could had all those games on launch and still haters would find a way to downplay it.

You're confusing normal people with unhealthy fanboys like yourself. Get some reality and rehab yourself.

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The smushed-backwards-ice cream sandwich-box-with taco camera is on track for another generation at the top, I reckon. MS gave up on games-driven platforms and instead is all about the MS/Direct X ecosystem, live services, and subscriptions. They can't beat Sony at making good games, but they can truncate third party developers ability to make them.

I guess this is the part where all the MS kids (no hate, I understand you grew up on the 360) apologize? Well, anyway, a remake of a decade-old Sony game is bigger news than anything else. And I'm saying this as a frustrated Xbox One X owner: MS needs to learn how to consistently publish good games and stop inundating everything in microtransations or putting out turd-flops like Bleeding Edge....man alive what a wasted game that was.

So this was Pure Sony: a bunch of sweet looking games in a row, almost all in-engine, one of them (Ratchet and Clank) objectively impossible to achieve on any other platform....even an apologizing, lowest-common-denominator gaming PC. Ouch, that stings!!!! 20 years of elitist bigotry and ignorance just comes right back around with a vengeance. Oh well, at least y'all can still complain about framerates or ray tracing or tessellation or mouse controls or something. Take your pick.

I, for one, welcome our new half-eaten panini overlord.

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#46  Edited By Crazy_Chemist
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Now That MS knows Sonys showing they are getting prepared now for showing off much more games i believe. MS seems to be doing the “not showing all my cards yet”. I think sony just showed most of it.

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#47  Edited By Fedor
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@tormentos said:

@fedor:

Nothing they would have show would have convince you,that is how fanbosym work.

They could had all those games on launch and still haters would find a way to downplay it.

Lol I've owned every single PS, but sure I'm a fanboy... There simply isn't going to be enough games to justify my purchase for a few years. You need to stop being so triggered.

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#48 sealionact
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@blueinheaven: "You missed their earlier reveal? Most of their studios are working on low quality Game Pass filler content."

Lol....that wasnt ms studios you clown, they were 3rd party partners. 1st party reveals start in July.

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#49  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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I can't believe Ghostwire Tokyo & Deathloop are PS5 console exclusives. What a joke.

I'm guessing everyone will be fine with Sony buying exclusivity, because they're not MS basically. Ridiculous.

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#50 Tessellation
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LMAO current gen graphics with some RT is all I see... The overclocked PS4 pro is showing its weakness 🤣