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Poll When will major Sony games come day 1 to PC? (62 votes)

Less than a year from now 18%
1-3 years 45%
3-6 years 13%
6+ years 6%
Never! 18%

In an unprecedented move, TLOU Part 1 was announced as being also in development for PC. This is a first to announce an unreleased game for the PC as well. We don't know how long it'll be before it hits PC but I'd be shocked if it was more than a year.

You'd have asked me a month ago, I woud have said it would never happen. Now? I think it will happen but not for all of their games. A carefully selected few will be day 1 in about 2-3 years from now. The rest will eventually all be on PC within less than 2 years.

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#1 Fedor
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About 3 years. Whenever they feel they can get away with it without causing panic and despair amongst the super fanboys.

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#2 R4gn4r0k
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Less then a year, they've already announced TLOU remake for PC and that is an entirely new way of doing things.

Dropping PS4 but announcing PC version day one.

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#3 PC_Rocks
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I would say probably around a year and a half still. It's mostly to do with resources rather than 'cows outage'. Their studios aren't geared for multiplat development and it will take a bit of time for all those studios to get up to speed. It's not easy changing the direction of big companies.

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#4 KvallyX
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Less than a year. They already started. They also said their new first party GaaS games are going to be on PC as well.

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#5 uninspiredcup
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As long as they wish to keep their console relevant, never.

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#6 lamprey263
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I think they'll stick to staggering their bigger titles though I can see third party titles that they pay for and publish to possible be PS5/PC releases.

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#7 Sagemode87
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It makes no financial sense to release same day as console. PC gamers practically brag about getting 4 year old ports, they're used to waiting. May as well saturate console sales then double dip later.

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#8  Edited By Zaryia
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Never probably.

But not an issue, as the PC backlog is pretty sizable thanks to getting all multiplats, a few exclusive genres, all MS exclusives, and a steady stream of Sony Exclusives. And the best version of all of these. It had over 100 more high scoring game than other systems last gen, and actually a huge lead this gen too. Furthermore, this lets the Cows beta test the games so we can play the best version few years down the line.

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PC gamers practically brag about getting 4 year old ports, they're used to waiting.

Yeah waiting isn't a problem since PC is so far ahead in library, and also getting the far better version. Compare this to other platforms that end up simply never getting other "exclusives" from other systems at all. Extra games are extra games.

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#9 Juub1990
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@Sagemode87 said:

It makes no financial sense to release same day as console. PC gamers practically brag about getting 4 year old ports, they're used to waiting. May as well saturate console sales then double dip later.

Horizon: Zero Dawn: 42 months

Days Gone: 25 months

Miles Morales: <24 months

The Last of Us Part 1: <12 months?

Noticing a pattern here?

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#10 simple-facts
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Depends on how long it takes to get a petition running,oh wait it's Sony,cows give them a free pass

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#11 Pedro
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Less than a year. It just makes financial sense. I wouldn't be surprised if they start with TLOU Remake of the remaster.😎

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The Naughty Dog remaster/remakes seem to come quick to PC. Uncharted Legacy Collection is supposedly dropping June 20th which would be 6 months after PS5. TLOU part 1 is supposed to be soon after the PS5 version. 6 months or less is reasonable. It gives time for PS5 users to beta test the games for PC. hehe :)

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#14 Juub1990
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@BassMan said:

The Naughty Dog remaster/remakes seem to come quick to PC. Uncharted Legacy Collection is supposedly dropping June 20th which would be 6 months after PS5. TLOU part 1 is supposed to be soon after the PS5 version. 6 months or less is reasonable. It gives time for PS5 users to beta test the games for PC. hehe :)

So, it's coming out in 4 days without any official announcement?

Strange.

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#15  Edited By BassMan
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@Juub1990 said:
@BassMan said:

The Naughty Dog remaster/remakes seem to come quick to PC. Uncharted Legacy Collection is supposedly dropping June 20th which would be 6 months after PS5. TLOU part 1 is supposed to be soon after the PS5 version. 6 months or less is reasonable. It gives time for PS5 users to beta test the games for PC. hehe :)

So, it's coming out in 4 days without any official announcement?

Strange.

Yup, June 20th date was leaked from EGS before, but it could have changed. It should be coming out anyday now. Sony doesn't really hype their PC launches. God of War had a bit of hype leading up to it though.

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I’m thinking probably in the 1 to 3 year range.

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#17 PCLover1980
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Hard to tell. Native PS5 games might not come 6 months to 1 year, but considering Sony making the Playstation PC label, they might do day and date on some 3rd party console exclusives.

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@BassMan said:
@Juub1990 said:
@BassMan said:

The Naughty Dog remaster/remakes seem to come quick to PC. Uncharted Legacy Collection is supposedly dropping June 20th which would be 6 months after PS5. TLOU part 1 is supposed to be soon after the PS5 version. 6 months or less is reasonable. It gives time for PS5 users to beta test the games for PC. hehe :)

So, it's coming out in 4 days without any official announcement?

Strange.

Yup, June 20th date was leaked from EGS before, but it could have changed. It should be coming out anyday now. Sony doesn't really hype their PC launches. God of War had a bit of hype leading up to it though.

I'm more surprised there's no PC footage of what settings to expect like the one for Days Gone.

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#19 Juub1990
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@davillain: Yeah, I kinda doubt it’s coming out on Monday with this little revealed. Maybe that was the initial release date but got pushed back.

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within 1-3 years, just long enough to string along the fanboys into acceptance..

games typically make their most financial impact during the launch window (particularly singleplayer games) and not every game is going to be a "banger" that will still sell if they release it to PC years later.. day one on PC simply makes sense from a business standpoint so it will definitely happen sooner rather than later..

and if/when Sony puts a Playstation Store on PC (like Microsoft has already), day one is a complete guarantee..

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It's not happening no time soon. There is no indication that they're moving that route. Definitely not happening in less than three years. I wouldn't see this happening until after PS6 has been out for a year plus.

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#22  Edited By locus-solus
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Sony been charging pc gamers 50$ for ports of oldish PlayStation console exclusives. If Sony plans on charging pc gamers 70$ for ports the wait must be no more than a few months or six months at max.

Also I think if PlayStation and PC lunch same day the sales number will be more similar to each other. Horizon Zero Down has sold 20 million units 18 million on PlayStation and 2.4 million on pc. if both launch same day I beat pc sales would be a lot higher do to hype train.

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#23  Edited By Silentchief
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Whenever their ready to be a 3rd party publisher and no longer a gaming platform.

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#24  Edited By Silentchief
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@Antwan3K said:

within 1-3 years, just long enough to string along the fanboys into acceptance..

games typically make their most financial impact during the launch window (particularly singleplayer games) and not every game is going to be a "banger" that will still sell if they release it to PC years later.. day one on PC simply makes sense from a business standpoint so it will definitely happen sooner rather than later..

and if/when Sony puts a Playstation Store on PC (like Microsoft has already), day one is a complete guarantee..

How does it make sense from a business standpoint? How is losing the majority of your base to another platform good business? They would probably lose half the people on their platform within 5 years. And once people move to PC they will buy all third party games on Steam not a Playstation launcher.

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What's worked for ms might not be what Sony want ms put all there games on pc for a reason. Their exclusives didn't sell.

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#26  Edited By Antwan3K
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@silentchief said:
@Antwan3K said:

within 1-3 years, just long enough to string along the fanboys into acceptance..

games typically make their most financial impact during the launch window (particularly singleplayer games) and not every game is going to be a "banger" that will still sell if they release it to PC years later.. day one on PC simply makes sense from a business standpoint so it will definitely happen sooner rather than later..

and if/when Sony puts a Playstation Store on PC (like Microsoft has already), day one is a complete guarantee..

How does it make sense from a business standpoint? How is losing the majority of your base to another platform good business? They would probably lose half the people on their platform within 5 years. And once people move to PC they will buy all third party games on Steam not a Playstation launcher.

because console gaming and PC gaming are two separate markets..

there will still be a huge, worldwide market of gamers who simply prefer to game on consoles.. period.. and there is also a market of PC gamers who simply have zero desire to buy a console for exclusives.. period..

now those PC gamers can spend money on PlayStation games that they otherwise would not have.. that's more software sales for Sony.. and providing day-and-date content to those PC gamers just makes good business sense if you want those gamers to dependably purchase your offerings during the hype/marketing window..

as far as PC gamers preferring to use Steam over another launcher, that's a problem that Sony is going to have to solve if they want to compete in that space.. Microsoft has created incentive to use their launcher via Game Pass PC.. Sony will have to figure out their own strategy.. but yeah, supporting Steam in addition to whatever they come up with is simply the name of the game if they want to actually sell their games to the wider PC audience..

at any rate, this entire concept has already been proven by Microsoft/Xbox.. Sony wouldn't be moving in this direction if the benefits weren't there..

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@Antwan3K said:
@silentchief said:
@Antwan3K said:

within 1-3 years, just long enough to string along the fanboys into acceptance..

games typically make their most financial impact during the launch window (particularly singleplayer games) and not every game is going to be a "banger" that will still sell if they release it to PC years later.. day one on PC simply makes sense from a business standpoint so it will definitely happen sooner rather than later..

and if/when Sony puts a Playstation Store on PC (like Microsoft has already), day one is a complete guarantee..

How does it make sense from a business standpoint? How is losing the majority of your base to another platform good business? They would probably lose half the people on their platform within 5 years. And once people move to PC they will buy all third party games on Steam not a Playstation launcher.

because console gaming and PC gaming are two separate markets..

there will still be a huge, worldwide market of gamers who simply prefer to game on consoles.. period.. and there is also a market of PC gamers who simply have zero desire to buy a console for exclusives.. period..

now those PC gamers can spend money on PlayStation games that they otherwise would not have.. that's more software sales for Sony.. and providing day-and-date content to those PC gamers just makes good business sense if you want those gamers to dependably purchase your offerings during the hype/marketing window..

as far as PC gamers preferring to use Steam over another launcher, that's a problem that Sony is going to have to solve if they want to compete in that space.. Microsoft has created incentive to use their launcher via Game Pass PC.. Sony will have to figure out their own strategy.. but yeah, supporting Steam in addition to whatever they come up with is simply the name of the game if they want to actually sell their games to the wider PC audience..

at any rate, this entire concept has already been proven by Microsoft/Xbox.. Sony wouldn't be moving in this direction if the benefits weren't there..

It's not though, they overlap to an extent and many people will leave their platform. I think many underestimate this.

Selling more copies of a first party game doesn't make up for the fact they would lose probably half of all third party sales. People forget this is where Playstation makes the majority of their revenue.

And no MS hasn't proven this concept. They were forced to sell games on PC because the PS4 was outselling the XB 3 to 1. They needed to move to another platform ( one they already had a strong foothold in). Playstation's gaming revenue has been far ahead of Microsofts since the PS4 era.

Jim Ryan is a moron who led Playstation Europe when Sony was on the verge of Bankruptcy. Only he would follow a company who's in 3rd place.

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#28 Silentchief
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@zaryia said:

Never probably.

But not an issue, as the PC backlog is pretty sizable thanks to getting all multiplats, a few exclusive genres, all MS exclusives, and a steady stream of Sony Exclusives. And the best version of all of these. It had over 100 more high scoring game than other systems last gen, and actually a huge lead this gen too. Furthermore, this lets the Cows beta test the games so we can play the best version few years down the line.

@Sagemode87 said:

PC gamers practically brag about getting 4 year old ports, they're used to waiting.

Yeah waiting isn't a problem since PC is so far ahead in library, and also getting the far better version. Compare this to other platforms that end up simply never getting other "exclusives" from other systems at all. Extra games are extra games.

Far better versions 😆.

Capcom had to change the the RE upgrade on PC because most you peasants couldn't run the new version.

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#29  Edited By Antwan3K
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@silentchief said:
@Antwan3K said:

because console gaming and PC gaming are two separate markets..

there will still be a huge, worldwide market of gamers who simply prefer to game on consoles.. period.. and there is also a market of PC gamers who simply have zero desire to buy a console for exclusives.. period..

now those PC gamers can spend money on PlayStation games that they otherwise would not have.. that's more software sales for Sony.. and providing day-and-date content to those PC gamers just makes good business sense if you want those gamers to dependably purchase your offerings during the hype/marketing window..

as far as PC gamers preferring to use Steam over another launcher, that's a problem that Sony is going to have to solve if they want to compete in that space.. Microsoft has created incentive to use their launcher via Game Pass PC.. Sony will have to figure out their own strategy.. but yeah, supporting Steam in addition to whatever they come up with is simply the name of the game if they want to actually sell their games to the wider PC audience..

at any rate, this entire concept has already been proven by Microsoft/Xbox.. Sony wouldn't be moving in this direction if the benefits weren't there..

It's not though, they overlap to an extent and many people will leave their platform. I think many underestimate this.

Selling more copies of a first party game doesn't make up for the fact they would lose probably half of all third party sales. People forget this is where Playstation makes the majority of their revenue.

And no MS hasn't proven this concept. They were forced to sell games on PC because the PS4 was outselling the XB 3 to 1. They needed to move to another platform ( one they already had a strong foothold in). Playstation's gaming revenue has been far ahead of Microsofts since the PS4 era.

Jim Ryan is a moron who led Playstation Europe when Sony was on the verge of Bankruptcy. Only he would follow a company who's in 3rd place.

i think you overestimate what you read on these forums and twitter..

in the real world, a console gamer who wants a $400~$500 PS5 to play Madden, Call of Duty, and Elden Ring isn't going to go build a gaming rig because Spiderman 2 is also available on PC..

and regardless of the reason, Xbox games are available on PC day-and-date yet Xbox Series consoles are currently outselling the PS5.. and yeah, i know "supply wars" but the fact remains: these are clearly separate markets and consoles remain in high demand regardless of what's happening on PC..

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#30 Silentchief
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@Antwan3K said:
@silentchief said:
@Antwan3K said:

because console gaming and PC gaming are two separate markets..

there will still be a huge, worldwide market of gamers who simply prefer to game on consoles.. period.. and there is also a market of PC gamers who simply have zero desire to buy a console for exclusives.. period..

now those PC gamers can spend money on PlayStation games that they otherwise would not have.. that's more software sales for Sony.. and providing day-and-date content to those PC gamers just makes good business sense if you want those gamers to dependably purchase your offerings during the hype/marketing window..

as far as PC gamers preferring to use Steam over another launcher, that's a problem that Sony is going to have to solve if they want to compete in that space.. Microsoft has created incentive to use their launcher via Game Pass PC.. Sony will have to figure out their own strategy.. but yeah, supporting Steam in addition to whatever they come up with is simply the name of the game if they want to actually sell their games to the wider PC audience..

at any rate, this entire concept has already been proven by Microsoft/Xbox.. Sony wouldn't be moving in this direction if the benefits weren't there..

It's not though, they overlap to an extent and many people will leave their platform. I think many underestimate this.

Selling more copies of a first party game doesn't make up for the fact they would lose probably half of all third party sales. People forget this is where Playstation makes the majority of their revenue.

And no MS hasn't proven this concept. They were forced to sell games on PC because the PS4 was outselling the XB 3 to 1. They needed to move to another platform ( one they already had a strong foothold in). Playstation's gaming revenue has been far ahead of Microsofts since the PS4 era.

Jim Ryan is a moron who led Playstation Europe when Sony was on the verge of Bankruptcy. Only he would follow a company who's in 3rd place.

i think you overestimate what you read on these forums and twitter..

in the real world, a console gamer who wants a $400~$500 PS5 to play Madden, Call of Duty, and Elden Ring isn't going to go build a gaming rig because Spiderman 2 is also available on PC..

and regardless of the reason, Xbox games are available on PC day-and-date yet Xbox Series consoles are currently outselling the PS5.. and yeah, i know "supply wars" but the fact remains: these are clearly separate markets and consoles remain in high demand regardless of what's happening on PC..

No I'm basing it off what people are doing in real life.

Your CoD and Madden bro maybe not, but someone who wants to play Elden Ring?... those people will gladly buy a PC.

Xbox is only outselling it because of supply issues so that's irrelevant. The One X stayed in stock at Amazon for 24 hours the series S is available all the time... a PS5 doesn't last 5 minutes.

If this was the way to go EA and Activision would be more successful then Nintendo.... but their not. I'm not saying the Playstation will dissappear but I do believe their overall revenue will shrink drastically.

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#31  Edited By Zaryia
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Far better versions

Yeah. Problem? A significant majority of multiplatform titles (aka most video games now) are far better on PC. Sure you can find a few examples of this not being the case, but those are the exceptions not the rule. And even those end up eventually fixed 😎.

@silentchief said:

most you peasants couldn't run the new version.

Not me. Don't care. Most Cows don't even own a PS5 yet.

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#32  Edited By Silentchief
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@zaryia said:
@silentchief said:

Far better versions

Yeah. Problem? A significant majority of multiplatform titles (aka most video games now) are far better on PC. Sure you can find a few examples of this not being the case, but those are the exceptions not the rule. And even those end up eventually fixed 😎.

Console peasants gotta' live with those facts.

Most aren't far better not now. That gap keeps getting smaller and that's if you have brand new hardware.

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#33  Edited By Antwan3K
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No I'm basing it off what people are doing in real life.

Your CoD and Madden bro maybe not, but someone who wants to play Elden Ring?... those people will gladly buy a PC.

Xbox is only outselling it because of supply issues so that's irrelevant. The One X stayed in stock at Amazon for 24 hours the series S is available all the time... a PS5 doesn't last 5 minutes.

If this was the way to go EA and Activision would be more successful then Nintendo.... but their not. I'm not saying the Playstation will dissappear but I do believe their overall revenue will shrink drastically.

in real life, Elden Ring is a mulitplat, available for both the PlayStation and PC day-and-date.. yet it broke sales records on both PC and console plus PS5s are still in high demand despite the fact that people could just go "build a PC" instead.. good job proving my point..

when PlayStation games are available on PC day-and-date across the board, console gamers (and particularly PlayStation fanboys) will still prefer to get those games on console..

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#34 Zaryia
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@silentchief said:
@zaryia said:
@silentchief said:

Far better versions

Yeah. Problem? A significant majority of multiplatform titles (aka most video games now) are far better on PC. Sure you can find a few examples of this not being the case, but those are the exceptions not the rule. And even those end up eventually fixed 😎.

Console peasants gotta' live with those facts.

that's if you have brand new hardware.

Well most Cows do not have a PS5. But I always have the newest hardware so I don't care. Will be getting 4080 asap and sell the 3080.

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#35  Edited By Silentchief
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@Antwan3K said:
@silentchief said:

No I'm basing it off what people are doing in real life.

Your CoD and Madden bro maybe not, but someone who wants to play Elden Ring?... those people will gladly buy a PC.

Xbox is only outselling it because of supply issues so that's irrelevant. The One X stayed in stock at Amazon for 24 hours the series S is available all the time... a PS5 doesn't last 5 minutes.

If this was the way to go EA and Activision would be more successful then Nintendo.... but their not. I'm not saying the Playstation will dissappear but I do believe their overall revenue will shrink drastically.

in real life, Elden Ring is a mulitplat, available for both the PlayStation and PC day-and-date.. yet it broke sales records on both PC and console plus PS5s are still in high demand despite the fact that people could just go "build a PC" instead.. good job proving my point..

when PlayStation games are available on PC day-and-date across the board, console gamers (and particularly PlayStation fanboys) will still prefer to get those games on console..

That doesn't prove your point. The PS5's biggest upcoming games are still exclusive.

I'm saying their will be far less " Playstation gamers" if they go that route.

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#36  Edited By Antwan3K
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@silentchief said:
@Antwan3K said:
@silentchief said:

No I'm basing it off what people are doing in real life.

Your CoD and Madden bro maybe not, but someone who wants to play Elden Ring?... those people will gladly buy a PC.

Xbox is only outselling it because of supply issues so that's irrelevant. The One X stayed in stock at Amazon for 24 hours the series S is available all the time... a PS5 doesn't last 5 minutes.

If this was the way to go EA and Activision would be more successful then Nintendo.... but their not. I'm not saying the Playstation will dissappear but I do believe their overall revenue will shrink drastically.

in real life, Elden Ring is a mulitplat, available for both the PlayStation and PC day-and-date.. yet it broke sales records on both PC and console plus PS5s are still in high demand despite the fact that people could just go "build a PC" instead.. good job proving my point..

when PlayStation games are available on PC day-and-date across the board, console gamers (and particularly PlayStation fanboys) will still prefer to get those games on console..

That doesn't prove your point. The PS5's biggest upcoming games are still exclusive.

I'm saying their will be far less " Playstation gamers" if they go that route.

wrong and it does prove my point.. the biggest games on PlayStation are titles like Fortnite, CoD Warzone, Apex Legends, GTAV, Minecraft, and Elden Ring..

these are PlayStation's biggest games and they are available everywhere, yet PS5s are still selling out..

"exclusives" are great, but the reality (ie outside of these forums) is that people already bought the console to continue playing Fortnite and Warzone.. and PlayStation gamers will continue to buy PS5s for God of War: Ragnarök and Spiderman 2 regardless of if those games are also available on PC..

only in console fanboyland is expanding the amount of people who can buy your product considered a bad thing..

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#37 Pedro
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@Antwan3K: Roblox is on PS5?

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#38  Edited By Antwan3K
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@Pedro: wow, totally didn't know that wasn't on PS4/5.. seems weird considering how popular it is.. edited post

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#39 Jendeh
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I don't know and don't really care. There are very few games I need to play on day one anymore.

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@Antwan3K said:

@Pedro: wow, totally didn't know that wasn't on PS4/5.. seems weird considering how popular it is.. edited post

MS had an agreement with Roblox awhile back which is why it's not on PS4/5. Sony did said they are thinking of adding Roblox in the near future but as of now, MS holds the contract until it expires.

But there are problems happening with Roblox and is the fact it can lead kids into dark places within the game and knowing Sony, they'll probably back out getting it on PS4/5 and it might be a wise move. Roblox on Switch? Not a chance.

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#41 Silentchief
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@Antwan3K said:
@silentchief said:
@Antwan3K said:
@silentchief said:

No I'm basing it off what people are doing in real life.

Your CoD and Madden bro maybe not, but someone who wants to play Elden Ring?... those people will gladly buy a PC.

Xbox is only outselling it because of supply issues so that's irrelevant. The One X stayed in stock at Amazon for 24 hours the series S is available all the time... a PS5 doesn't last 5 minutes.

If this was the way to go EA and Activision would be more successful then Nintendo.... but their not. I'm not saying the Playstation will dissappear but I do believe their overall revenue will shrink drastically.

in real life, Elden Ring is a mulitplat, available for both the PlayStation and PC day-and-date.. yet it broke sales records on both PC and console plus PS5s are still in high demand despite the fact that people could just go "build a PC" instead.. good job proving my point..

when PlayStation games are available on PC day-and-date across the board, console gamers (and particularly PlayStation fanboys) will still prefer to get those games on console..

That doesn't prove your point. The PS5's biggest upcoming games are still exclusive.

I'm saying their will be far less " Playstation gamers" if they go that route.

wrong and it does prove my point.. the biggest games on PlayStation are titles like Fortnite, CoD Warzone, Apex Legends, GTAV, Minecraft, and Elden Ring..

these are PlayStation's biggest games and they are available everywhere, yet PS5s are still selling out..

"exclusives" are great, but the reality (ie outside of these forums) is that people already bought the console to continue playing Fortnite and Warzone.. and PlayStation gamers will continue to buy PS5s for God of War: Ragnarök and Spiderman 2 regardless of if those games are also available on PC..

only in console fanboyland is expanding the amount of people who can buy your product considered a bad thing..

Except your forgetting Spider-Man and God of War both which were among the best selling games on the platform. If exclusives didn't matter why is the Switch dominating everything?

The Switch was not on pace to beat the PS4 but now it is??? Why is that? Why did the Playstation brand lose 600,000 subscribers from last year? Exclusives absolutely matter because people will gladly choose a primary gaming platform if they have them in addition to the other games.

This nonsense that console fans won't Switch to PC is an absolute myth.

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#42  Edited By Antwan3K
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@silentchief: the Switch isn't competing in the home console market or against PC.. The Switch is on an island all alone in the handheld/hybrid market, "winning" via price, availability, and portability..

The Switch has arguably the worst overall gaming library and clearly illustrates that different markets can co-exist.. People buy games on the Switch for the novelty of portability.. Something you can't get on PC or console.. Good job picking the worst possible example for your argument..

This nonsense that console fans are going to switch to PC in any meaningful way is a myth that's proven false by the fact that all the most popular games are available on both PC and console yet console demand is still at an all time high..

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@Antwan3K said:

@silentchief: the Switch isn't competing in the home console market or against PC.. The Switch is on an island all alone in the handheld/hybrid market, "winning" via price, availability, and portability..

The Switch has arguably the worst overall gaming library and clearly illustrates that different markets can co-exist.. People buy games on the Switch for the novelty of portability.. Something you can't get on PC or console.. Good job picking the worst possible example for your argument..

This nonsense that console fans are going to switch to PC in any meaningful way is a myth that's proven false by the fact that all the most popular games are available on both PC and console yet console demand is still at an all time high..

Nonsense. Wtf is the steamdeck then?

You ignored the fact the Playstation lost 600,000 subscribers. And yes the Switch does have the worst overall library yet it doesn't matter..you know why?...... Because it has quality exclusives.

You think everyone on consoles is a COD and Madden bro... and that's simply not true.

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@silentchief: the Steamdeck is a handheld..

The Switch has quality exclusives, yeah thats true.. So did the GameCube and so did the Wii U.. The Wii and the Switch were runaway successes because they STOPPED competing directly with Sony/Microsoft and aimed for untapped markets.. Don't believe me?.. Do a basic level of research and Nintendo has said exactly that time and time again..

At the end of the day, Playstation supporting PC is Playstation supporting an untapped market.. And you're ignoring that console demand is at an all time high despite everything either already being on PC or going to PC..

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@Antwan3K said:

@silentchief: the Steamdeck is a handheld..

The Switch has quality exclusives, yeah thats true.. So did the GameCube and so did the Wii U.. The Wii and the Switch were runaway successes because they STOPPED competing directly with Sony/Microsoft and aimed for untapped markets.. Don't believe me?.. Do a basic level of research and Nintendo has said exactly that time and time again..

At the end of the day, Playstation supporting PC is Playstation supporting an untapped market.. And you're ignoring that console demand is at an all time high despite everything either already being on PC or going to PC..

The Wii was a runaway success because it targeted non-gamers. After one generation the non-gamers completely abandoned them. The Switch wasn't targeting new markets. It just combined Nintendo's markets. The 3Ds crowd and the Wii U crowd now had a system that was both a portable and a console.

The PC isn't an untapped market it's competition. I'm a perfect example. If exclusives go to PC Day one I will drop Playstation in an instant and just buy all multiplats on Steam. I know other people personally that are already talking about doing the same thing. And console demand is at an all time high because gaming in general is much more popular. Sony will want to decide if they want to be the top platform or just a third party publisher.

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#46  Edited By SirBernard
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Honestly, I can see Sony saving their games for one year before porting them over to the PC. Sony still depends on their console sales for their main revenue source, unlike Xbox that basically has "F*ck you" money.

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#47  Edited By Antwan3K
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@silentchief said:
@Antwan3K said:

@silentchief: the Steamdeck is a handheld..

The Switch has quality exclusives, yeah thats true.. So did the GameCube and so did the Wii U.. The Wii and the Switch were runaway successes because they STOPPED competing directly with Sony/Microsoft and aimed for untapped markets.. Don't believe me?.. Do a basic level of research and Nintendo has said exactly that time and time again..

At the end of the day, Playstation supporting PC is Playstation supporting an untapped market.. And you're ignoring that console demand is at an all time high despite everything either already being on PC or going to PC..

The Wii was a runaway success because it targeted non-gamers. After one generation the non-gamers completely abandoned them. The Switch wasn't targeting new markets. It just combined Nintendo's markets. The 3Ds crowd and the Wii U crowd now had a system that was both a portable and a console.

The PC isn't an untapped market it's competition. I'm a perfect example. If exclusives go to PC Day one I will drop Playstation in an instant and just buy all multiplats on Steam. I know other people personally that are already talking about doing the same thing. And console demand is at an all time high because gaming in general is much more popular. Sony will want to decide if they want to be the top platform or just a third party publisher.

the Wii was a success because it targeted an untapped market.. the same can be said for the Switch.. nothing you said changes that..

anecdotal evidence is meaningless.. on the whole, consoles and PC don't compete.. the stats don't lie, there is very little actual overlap in the real world beyond the hardcore you find on these forums.. and if you leave PlayStation and go to PC, great.. Sony will still get your money from 1st party sales on PC and PlayStation will still be the #1 brand in console gaming worldwide.. it's a win/win despite what fanboy warriors want to believe..

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I think it's a possibility this generation it's already getting shorter.

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#49 SecretPolice
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Phony will launch them on PC the day before... Day One. ;o

Just for the giggles. lol

I'm sure they're as tired of the rabid cows as everyone else. :P

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Never, unless Sony decides to start selling buzzsaws.