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@above_average said:
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With that being said, the decision put COD on GP is wild to me. That's one of those Hell Mary Phil Spencer calls if you ask me.

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the policy has always been to put Xbox 1st party titles into Game Pass on Day One.. how is maintaining the current policy a "Hail Mary"?..

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#2  Edited By Antwan3K
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@gifford38 said:
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Bovine brigade lovin that Sea of mofo Thieves, baby!!! ;o

Congrats Rare, you've never been better...

Good stuff!! lol :P

Mean while xbox fans are like ew gross you buy games. buy sea of thief's that's stupid. gamepass or nothing.

Sea of Thieves debuted at #2 in NPD the month it launched back in 2018..

and it was also available in Game Pass.. 😐

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why is Minecraft shown a published by Nintendo on the Switch?..

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@SecretPolice said:

Bovine brigade lovin that Sea of mofo Thieves, baby!!! ;o

Congrats Rare, you've never been better...

Good stuff!! lol :P

i personally put over 548 hours into Sea of Thieves.. outstanding game and glad to see it's continued success.. 😊

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#5  Edited By Antwan3K
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looking at that jump in Fallout 4 and Fallout 76 sales, i'd be willing to bet money that Xbox will have a new Fallout game (whether brand new, a remake, or a remaster) ready for the launch of Fallout Season 2 on Prime..

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#6  Edited By Antwan3K
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@Pedro said:
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Ah yes, because we've seen PC Game Pass put a big dent in all those PC game sales. Oh wait...

If/when PC COD players leave Steam for the Xbox PC App (LMAO) we can talk. If Palworld showed us anything, it's that PC gamers would rather pay full price elsewhere...

Weird, I just stated the fact that Game Pass is also on PC and according to your data, has more COD players than Xbox and PS5 combined. What are you going on about?🤭

dude, "Xbox fans don't buy games because 'everybody uses Game Pass', yet at the same time, 'nobody uses Game Pass' because the subscription numbers have fallen off a cliff"..

also,

"PC fans prefer buying Xbox games instead of subscribing to Game Pass, yet at the same time, Xbox games don't sell on PC because of Game Pass"..

what don't you understand???..

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#7  Edited By Antwan3K
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@ghostofgolden said:
@Antwan3K said:
@Pedro said:
@Pedro said:

He flip flops when his narrative is falling apart or objectively false. I find it easier to say, "I was wrong".🤷🏽‍♂️

My comment rings true.🤷🏽‍♂️

Xbox fans don't buy games because "everybody uses Game Pass", yet at the same time, "nobody uses Game Pass" because the subscription numbers have supposedly fallen off a cliff..

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3rd party devs have expressed concern over software sales and have explored skipping the platform. Also Game Pass growth has slowed to a crawl (as have updates regarding the subscriber total). Which is why Xbox is now putting games on PlayStation and Nintendo platforms. Notice none of these things are narratives, but stories/articles shared across the web the past few weeks. But please, continue

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I mean even Pedro came to the conclusion a week ago that putting COD on Game Pass was low risk because of the low Xbox turnout. But now that Antwan’s feelings are hurt…

ah, "the concern".. 🙄 which 3rd party titles are skipping the Xbox platform?.. because basing these bold claims on anonymous indie devs just isn't going to cut it.. especially when Xbox is consistently getting new (and old) indie titles released directly into Game Pass and the Xbox platform on a monthly basis..

beyond that, the reality is that the entire Call of Duty pie belongs to Xbox so it really doesn't matter.. Xbox is going to get 70% from every retail sale on PlayStation, 70% from every retail sale on PC, and 100% from every retail sale on Xbox.. so yeah, definitely "low risk" to put the title in Game Pass.. 🤷‍♂️

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@Pedro said:
@Pedro said:

He flip flops when his narrative is falling apart or objectively false. I find it easier to say, "I was wrong".🤷🏽‍♂️

My comment rings true.🤷🏽‍♂️

Xbox fans don't buy games because "everybody uses Game Pass", yet at the same time, "nobody uses Game Pass" because the subscription numbers have supposedly fallen off a cliff..

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#9  Edited By Antwan3K
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@ghostofgolden said:
@Antwan3K said:
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@Antwan3K: [...]

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When PC came on board, how much did Game Pass subs jump? Why do we go 12-18 months between subscriber count updates where they gained maybe a million or two subs?(And a million or two more console sales)

Saying Xbox gamers aren’t buying games and Game Pass has stalled because of stalled console sales isn’t contradictory. It‘s literally the reason behind this new multiplat strategy

for the nth time, Game Pass only accounts for 10~15% of overall gaming revenue.. Which means the majority of Xbox customers do, in fact, buy games..

as far as PC is concerned, here's a quote from when they saw 159% YoY growth on PC:

We’re seeing incredible growth on PC ... On console, I’ve seen growth slow down, mainly because at some point you’ve reached everybody on console that wants to subscribe" - Phil Spencer, Head of Xbox - link

and here's a similar statement from just a few months ago..

"When there's a fixed number of console players on the planet," he elaborated, "you're not going to grow Game Pass forever by shipping just on consoles. So we're seeing really significant growth on PC, which is great, and cloud." - Phil Spener, Head of Xbox - link

you're wrong on both points.. plain and simple.. a "double whammy".. 🤡

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#10  Edited By Antwan3K
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@ghostofgolden said:

@Antwan3K: The difference my statements are from 3rd party devs with nothing to lose and black and white Circana data. Yours is from Phil Spencer talking to the press. Which let’s be real, he doesn’t have the best track record here.

3rd party devs small and large are exploring skipping Xbox because of poor sales. Game Pass on Pc?!?! A major sector for growth?! Come on. Game Pass is tied to PC? In what world?

you still haven't disputed the facts..

it's a fact that Xbox gamers buy games because Game Pass only represents a relatively small percentage of their overall business revenue to the tune of 10~15%..

it's a fact that Game pass does not only rely on console.. PC Game Pass exists and the PC install base is massive; representing a large sector for growth. growth that has been reported multiple times as their leading sector as console subscriptions began to reach saturation..

you, on the other hand, are trying to piece together a narrative that contradicts itself.. either "Xbox gamers don't buy games" because everyone has Game Pass or "Game Pass growth has stalled" meaning that most Xbox gamers do in fact still buy games..