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#1  Edited By Jag85
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@BenjaminBanklin said:

Deal with what? That Xbox is ignored in every market? They may as well name the whole division Activision at this point, since CoD is gonna do the heavy lifting for the whole gaming side of Microsoft anyway

We already know JP games sell like crap on Xbox... The point is that delusional PlayStation fans refuse to accept the reality that JP games now sell better on PC than PlayStation.

The fact that Tekken 8 has more players on PC than both PlayStation and Xbox combined speaks volumes about how PC is now the more popular platform for JP games (along with the Switch and mobiles).

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#2  Edited By Jag85
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Lol... 😂

PC appears to be the most popular platform for Tekken 8

Only 7 percent of Tekken 8 players are on Xbox.

JP games sell better on PC than PlayStation. Deal with it, cows.

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Yet another thread proving my point:

Japanese games sell better on PC than PlayStation.

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@nirgal: I agree that Asians are definitely more under-represented than blacks in Western media. So Asians in the West would have every right to be offended at a black lead in a Japanese setting, since Asians are already more under-represented than blacks in Western media...

However, there is a counter-balance to this: Asia has its own thriving media industries. Nowadays, Asian pop culture is huge across the world. Anime, dramas, games, movies and music from Asia are popular worldwide, especially among Millennials and Gen Z. So it's not like Asians necessarily need Western representation, when they have their own popular media industries to represent themselves.

You can't say the same for, say, Africa or the Caribbean. Nigeria has Nollywood, but that's often perceived by outsiders as a cheap Nigerian knock-off of Hollywood and Bollywood. They don't really have anything to compete with Western pop culture. So the only practical way to have popular black representation is by working in Western media industries. There are no non-Western alternatives they can turn to.

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@nirgal said:

@Jag85: I don't know if it matters where the japanese language comment come from. They are comments, not a poll.

Besides, we already know that several popular Japanese anime and games feature non ethnically japanese samurais, so we can tell at least a large group of people are not bothered by it .

For me it's a total non issue.

Unless the character start adding dialogue about the patriarchy or try to analyze the world in terms of contemporary American race relationships, I am totally ok with this.

I also would like to see the reactions peasants have to yasuke. I have walked small Chinese and Japanese towns in the middle of nowhere and as non asian person, I attracted A LOT of attention.

Obviously, Japanese people are not a monolith and have different opinions, just like Westerners. But the narrative being painted in the West about Japan being offended (which I initially believed) is untrue. Most Japanese gamers are not bothered by it (evident from Japanese Twitter). Most of the outrage is coming from the West.

But yes, I'd also have an issue with it if they engaged in historical revisionism and tried to insert modern politics into the game... But then again, it's historical fantasy, so there's always going to be fantastical elements that obviously didn't happen in history.

When Nobunaga first met Yasuke, he thought he was covered in black ink and told his servants to wash off the ink... only to be shocked that it didn't come off and that's his actual skin colour. This historical anecdote is accurately depicted in the Yasuke anime:

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Back in the days, video games were trying to be like movies.

Nowadays, movies are trying to be like video games.

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@texasgoldrush said:
@hardwenzen said:
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@hardwenzen said:

From the Ubisoft Japan channel on youtube, using google translate. Even Japan is shitting on the dev😆😆😆HELL YEA

Or it is non Japanese people using translate to act like they are Japanese. That whole youtube's video comments are full of this.

If you hit translate, and translates perfect English, they aren't Japanese.

No, look at the damn name. The large majority are Japanese people with old youtube accounts.

So how does the translation "work perfectly"?

They aren't Japanese, they are English speakers using a translator.

Going through the YouTube comments section of the Japanese trailer...

When you translate most of the "Japanese" comments, it usually starts with:

"I'm from country X."

Clearly, most of those "Japanese" comments are using Google Translate.

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@nirgal said:

The female character is less realistic than the black dude.

It should have been a black dude and japanese dude as main characters.

Female fighters were extremely rare in Japan history. Mostly taking arms as a last resource to defend their homes.

Even female samurais (women within that social class) were simply housewives.

While it's true that women weren't allowed to be Samurai, female warriors did exist in Japanese history:

Onna-musha (female warriors)

But you're right that they usually only took up arms as self-defence, rather than fighting offensive wars like male Samurai. However, the female protagonist in AC is a Kunoichi (female ninja)...

Kunoichi (female ninja)

They didn't usually engage in direct combat, but were basically like female spies engaging in espionage. But in modern Japanese media, they're usually depicted as fighters.

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Another viral Japanese tweet defending the game's decision to cast Yasuke in a leading role:

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Translation:

I think Yasuke would be okay, and in response to the response "Why Yasuke?", I think "Well, if the story is set in Japan and he's an assassin belonging to the Assassin Brotherhood, the most natural position would be 'a black slave brought from Portugal.'" If he was set as a Japanese character, it would be unnatural if he wasn't a member of the Assassin Brotherhood but a ninja.

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@hardwenzen said:

From the Ubisoft Japan channel on youtube, using google translate. Even Japan is shitting on the dev😆😆😆HELL YEA

That only has 214 likes... Meanwhile, the tweet I posted above has about 50K likes and more than 10M views:

@Jag85 said:

Looking through Japanese Twitter, it doesn't seem like most Japanese gamers have an issue with casting Yasuke in a leading role. Some are even mocking Westerners for getting offended over it:

Tweet

Translation:

Assassin's Creed new game already has people saying, "Why is there a black samurai in the lead role in a game set in Japan? There aren't any!" "No, seriously, there was a black man from the Sengoku period who was a subordinate of a very famous Sengoku warlord! It sounds like a lie, but it's true!" A debate between otakus overseas has started lol

Seems like another case of Westerners being offended on Japan's behalf. This has happened before over "whitewashing" and "cultural appropriation" controversies, which most Japanese had no issue with either. Westerners are just looking to get offended over anything, regardless of whether it's from the "woke" or "anti-woke" crowd.

It's also worth noting that your Japanese YouTube comment has mostly English replies. In contrast, the Japanese tweet I posted above has mostly Japanese replies.

In other words, the Japanese tweet I posted above is a more accurate representation of what Japanese gamers really think of the game. It's also worth noting that there's been a bunch of Japanese media featuring Yasuke, so Japanese audiences aren't so shocked like Western audiences who've never heard of him until the other day.