You contradict yourself; you say he is guilty, then try to diminish it by saying "it's not like he killed people", then you essentially say "he isn't guilty" because it was all just an innocent book keeping error.

I wish you well and hope you someday gain some perspective on this whole mess that doesn't involve rabid worship of God King Trump.

Also here is a list of the FELONIES Trump is guilty of.

Less technical, but equally important: he committed these crimes to lie to the American people. Trump took a choice from us; a choice to hear about a presidential candidates background and make a choice about whether we want to vote him into office. Trump made a choice for the American people before he was even president to lie to us.

It's not that I give a shit about him sleeping with a pornstar, he just tried to cover these things up and has proven himself a certified criminal, and therefore unfit for office. It would have been better for him to just come clean with it from the start. He is a liar, a criminal, and in the end a failure and an idiot. And he is still the "best" the GOP can do. Sad, sad, sad...

Honestly it's not likely to make a difference in how the American voters feel; people who were going to vote for Trump will still vote for him, while people who weren't will not.

The only thing this might impact is voters on the fence, though many of them are likely to vote for a third party candidate. In that case, we can only hope that Trump/GOP lose voters in a volume greater than Biden/Dems will.

At least we now can legitimately say that Trump is a felon.

Some things to note:

• Trump's empire was built in New York. All his influence was made in New York. For those of you thinking this is some left-wing New Yorker thing and not fair, you're full of shit.
• Biden doesn't run the courts, the GOP does. Trump by all accounts SHOULD BE ON TRIAL IN FLORIDA...but he isn't, because he placed and owns the judge there who is dragging her feet. Trump by all accoutns SHOULD BE ON TRIAL IN DC...but he isn;t, because the GOP owns the Supreme Court. Trump would be in prison months ago if the legal system was unbiased, much less Biden-owned. So cool it with that noise.
• This was decided by a jury. All these months in his other court cases Trump has been claiming how they're not legit because there was no jury (they were legit, btw, they were just different mechanics to the court) but now A JURY OF AMERICAN PEERS decided his fate. Can't really argue against that.

I suppose this is the only way to respond to a certifiably batshit insane person devoid of any reason and entirely susceptible to only emotions and beliefs.

I applaud your restraint.

Honestly it's not likely to make a difference in how the American voters feel; people who were going to vote for Trump will still vote for him, while people who weren't will not.

The only thing this might impact is voters on the fence, though many of them are likely to vote for a third party candidate. In that case, we can only hope that Trump/GOP lose voters in a volume greater than Biden/Dems will.

At least we now can legitimately say that Trump is a felon.

Some things to note:

• Trump's empire was built in New York. All his influence was made in New York. For those of you thinking this is some left-wing New Yorker thing and not fair, you're full of shit.
• Biden doesn't run the courts, the GOP does. Trump by all accounts SHOULD BE ON TRIAL IN FLORIDA...but he isn't, because he placed and owns the judge there who is dragging her feet. Trump by all accoutns SHOULD BE ON TRIAL IN DC...but he isn;t, because the GOP owns the Supreme Court. Trump would be in prison months ago if the legal system was unbiased, much less Biden-owned. So cool it with that noise.
• This was decided by a jury. All these months in his other court cases Trump has been claiming how they're not legit because there was no jury (they were legit, btw, they were just different mechanics to the court) but now A JURY OF AMERICAN PEERS decided his fate. Can't really argue against that.

I suppose this is the only way to respond to a certifiably batshit insane person devoid of any reason and entirely susceptible to only emotions and beliefs.

I applaud your restraint.

soooooo the trumpers felled the trees, milled the lumber, measured and cut the planks, assembled 99.95% of the coffin and then you're blaming democrats for tapping the last nail?

that's some smooth brain logic there.

@JimB: So you are saying that he was charged for something he was never told about for over 7 weeks, he pleaded not guilty to charges that he was never told and his lawyers were defending him over something they had no idea of for over 7 weeks but only when he was found guilty by jurors over charges that were never disclosed this revelation is now known?🤔

I feel oddly indifferent about this. Maybe still sinking in….

I don’t think he’s going to see a second of any real consequence regardless of the verdict, but it’s nice that he is now, technically, a convicted felon. Can we at least get past the ‘what are the exact crimes and charges?’ talk now?

Seems to me the adjudication is done, now to see if the Trumpers honor law and order as they claim, or if, as usual, it’s only legitimate when they win.

I wonder if his tough on crime support base will change their tune now that felon Donald Trump has been convicted.

@Mercenary848: Of course it should. But zionists use the horrors of the holocaust to play the eternal victim. Even while they are committing crimes against humanity.

Is he finally getting fines for breaking the gag order?

There is no hope for he country when you are so inept you don't see what is happening every day in the country. You are living in the past we got by COVID but not the Biden Administration and their policies which have destroyed the very fabric of the nation.