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#1 Pedro
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@osan0 said:

This could get a bit ranty and is a bit off topic so my brief reply to the bit in bold.

Yes it's the designers fault (the designer of whoever is moving the game to the new system to be clear). Every system has constraints. These constraints are known on consoles because the spec is fixed. If a designer says they can make their design work on a different system (and the fact the game is released says they did) and it ends up running like crap then it's the designers fault. Blaming the console spec is like blaming the wind for a bridge collapsing.

This is not to say consoles cannot be criticised by devs. Of course they can. Every console, handheld and PC has it's issues and things to improve on for the next version. But those issues are not going to go away for the current console. It is what it is. Devs have to work to that.

That analogy makes no sense in context. A more accurate analogy would be a bridge with a certain weight limit collapsing when burden with more weight than it is capable of supporting. This analogy can be applied to both the console and the game design.

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#2 Pedro
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@TheEroica said:

Can't tell is TC is serious or just rekt?

Both. 😂

Sega was in the console business for ~12 years while Xbox has been in the console business for 23 years and counting. 🤔

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#3  Edited By Pedro
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@gifford38 said:

@davillain: I am right. People against woke are same people that believe in the list I gave to Pedro. Can't tell me woke does not exist. The word might be fake but the meaning behind it is. People just used the word woke part of everything going on lately. Every movie the parents are to gether but the female child is gay. From willow,to new Ghost busters to so on and so forth. Then make female characters look manly for the Trans. Give puberty blockers to children. To making men in movies clueless and does nothing to help the cause at hand. Unless it's mission and possible or reacher.

It's all there the evidence between spiderman2mary jane, hzd2 elloy uglier,even last if us remake getting rid of Joel's shoulder muscles. Reason people are watching reruns of older shows. Reason suicide squad failed. Last of us 2 had th gringest sex scene ever showing man looking boobs but steller blade could not show cleaverage. It's all check list every movie same some what plot.

Except you are not. You are rarely correct about anything you talk about and you consistently parade your gross ignorance. When you are called out for your ignorance and corrected, you continue to spew the nonsense as you are doing now. If morons like you are allowed to spew bullshit, then I will be here to correct the bullshit with equal or greater force. Your stupidity is the problem, not wokeness.🤷🏽‍♂️

@davillain I as mentioned by name so I responded.🙃

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#4  Edited By Pedro
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"As a cow" 😂

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#5 Pedro
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@davillain: The few black characters that debut in games in the past never triggered the recent intense racism under the guise of woke, but here we are.🤷🏽‍♂️

"I am not racist, I just don't want certain people in my games because of 'reasons'".😏

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#6 Pedro
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@TheEroica said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:
@Jag85 said:

We already know JP games sell like crap on Xbox.

You could have just ended it with that. PC and PS5 are healthy platforms that can support the market together while Xbox dangles there like that useless piece of a chicken wing, not serving a purpose. Then we gotta hear you huff and puff about Xbox getting disrespected when games pass it by. This wasn't even worth the port

So your hope and desire is what? Xbox brand goes away and Microsoft sells everyone games on PC and PS? Can't tell if you're rooting for Xbox to fail because you want their studios games or if you want to claim some amount of high ground in the system wars.... What's your end game?

The child is a looney. You can't take him seriously and he exists just for kicks.

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#7  Edited By Pedro
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@SolidGame_basic said:
@Pedro said:

Sega doesn't make consoles and faded away pretty early. Xbox still exists. Waddya think?🤭

Well yea.. Xbox is owned by one of the richest companies in the world. They can afford to keep it around.

Which by default makes Xbox a better competitor. Sega didn't have the resources to compete and made the decision to bail because they determined it was best for the company.

It doesn't matter in the end because consoles are not as relevant as they used to. Mobile and PC are the real behemoths.

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#8 Pedro
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@osan0 said:

For the bit highlighted in bold: It should though.

Console games have indeed had performance issues. Those are usually examples of poorly made console games (i was playing the old TNMT nes game recently and....yikes konami :S).

But if a game is being made for a console then the developer really should be tuning it so it hits the devs target framerate at all times. Of course that can mean that some effects are paired back or some other compromise is made. If that's what needs to be done then so be it.

Just like there are plenty of badly performing console games, there are also many examples of console games running at their target framerate just fine, no matter how weak the console is.

Same with ports. If a port is performing poorly on it's target hardware then it's a poor port. It's not the consoles fault. Either the port house screwed up or (more likely) the publisher just wanted a quick and cheap port.

A more powerful Switch will, make existing ports run better (assuming Nintendo don't have some weird "Switch Mode" where the Switch 2 basically becomes a switch 1 for switch 1 games). But then poor ports targeting the Switch 2 will still have inconsistent framerates. Hardware won't solve that problem.

Going back to the BG3 debacle around Co-Op on the XSS. Everyone blamed the console for it's specs. But it's not the console: the fault there lies with Larian. They knew they were bringing the game to Xbox. They knew it was a requirement that all Xbox games be able to run on the XSS and XSX. They also knew that feature parity was a requirement. But, for whatever reason, they only found out late in development that the Co-Op feature wouldn't work on the XSS. Not the consoles fault. Not MSs fault. Larian made a mistake.

Super Mario Brothers has performance issues when too many enemies were onscreen. Would you say that is a poorly made game?😏

There is a lot of wrong in your comment. You are grossly (I cannot stress more) understating the difficulty in developing and optimizing games. Some optimizations as low hanging fruit. Others are more complex and the worse is inconsistent performance issues which is frustratingly hard to resolve due to it not being predictable. And then there are other constraints, financial, deadline, resources etc. The more gameplay focus a game is, the greater the chances of performance issues. By your own definition, games like Tears of the Kingdom are poorly made because it has framerate issues.😮

Better hardware improves the chances of games being better performing as a whole.

"This is why I am hoping with the advancement in tech that their next system would be more consistent with framerates."

If a developer designs a game with specific constraints, porting the game to a system with different constraints, especially performance is going to be a hurdle. That is like blaming the designer for their original design for a specific client not working as well with another client.

I don't know the development process or hurdles Larian faced, so I am reserving judgement until I have sufficient information.

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#9 Pedro
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Sega doesn't make consoles and faded away pretty early. Xbox still exists. Waddya think?🤭

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#10 Pedro
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@sealionact said:

Recent Xbox news; gaming revenue +62%, new studio opened, COD blops day one on Gamepass, fallout 4 and sea of thieves outselling Sony titles on pc, Starfield 60fps patch, 6 first party games before end of 2024, new hardware announcement confirmed and full steam ahead on next gen.

Cows; 3 failed studios closed with one of them merging…..”Xbox is doomed”.

Meanwhile, Sony loses their head honcho, no games by Sony studios until April 2025, and the “Cow of the year” on these boards is disillusioned with Sony and hasn’t played on his ps5 since 2023.

But, yeah….Xbox leaders need to be fired🤷‍♂️😅

Which studio is merging?