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#1 avenger_dot

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[QUOTE="Runningflame570"][QUOTE="avenger_dot"]
360 RPG's in 2006:
Oblivion
Enchanted Arms
360 RPG's in 2007:
Mass Effect
Two Worlds
Bioshock
Elveon
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey
Overlord
Circle of Doom
Eternal Sonata
Shivering Isles
360 RPG's in 2008:
Fable 2
Cry On
Infinite Undiscovery
Square MMORPG
Conan
Jade Empire 2
Project Offset
360 RPG's in 2009:
Fallout 3
Kotor 3
Project Chronos
PS3 RPG's in 2007:
Oblivion
Enchanted Arms
PS3 RPG's in 2008:
FF13
White Knight
Unkown Realms
Angel Rings
Monster Carnival
Two Worlds is NOT for PS3
avenger_dot

Two Worlds is not CONFIRMED for PS3 but it could still show up there, Warhammer is not CONFIRMED for 360 but it will still likely show up there. Jade Empire 2 is unannounced and apparently is something that is only being toyed around with, KOTOR III is rumored, Blue Dragon 2 is unannounced and is apparently still in planning, meaning it could go to another system of be cancelled outright. That Square-Enix MMO doesn't really have much known about it and it could just end up being a followup or expansion to FFXI...the fact its being planned for PS3 and PC also lends some credence to those rumors. Heres PS3's RPG listing according to IGN (typically has the most titles):

Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The
Sony Online Mercenary / Spy MMO [untitled]
Lord of the Rings: The White Council, The
Square Enix Next-Gen MMORPG [untitled]
White Knight Story
Enchanted Arms
Alien -- RPG Project [untitled]
DC Universe
Cryptic Studios MMO Project [untitled]
Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning
X Quest
Namco PS3 RPG [untitled]
Angel Rings [Working Title]
Shin Megami Tensei [untitled sequel]
tri-Crescendo PS3 Project [untitled]
James Cameron's Project 880 [rumored title]
Gust PS3 RPG Project [untitled]
Hudson Soft PS3 RPG Project [untitled]
Success PS3 RPG [untitled]
Elder Scrolls IV: The Shivering Isles, The
Sony Online Whimsical MMO [untitled]
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic III [rumored]
Konami PS3 RPG [untitled]
Project D
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy Vs. XIII
Marvel Ultimate Alliance
Age of Conan
Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
Obsidian RPG Project [Untitled]
Monster Carnival [Working Title]
Cavia PS3 Action-RPG [Untitled]
Master P.J. [Working Title]
Mist of Chaos
Makai Wars

Endless Saga was cancelled so I've removed that.

Well, any links to pics or info for the above PS3 RPG's, i mean them unknown ones, are any of those in development or are they all vaporware ? I agree i have Jade Empire 2 and Kotor 3 in my list, but this is just 2 games that we know nothing about, in the PS3 list it is nearly ALL games !!! especially all exclusives

So, how many of those game actually EXIST ?

Well, not even on pic or piece of info for the below ?

TITLES WITH NO INFO AT ALL (vaporware)

Sony Online Mercenary / Spy MMO [untitled]
Cryptic Studios MMO Project [untitled]
Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning
X Quest
Namco PS3 RPG [untitled]
tri-Crescendo PS3 Project [untitled]
James Cameron's Project 880 [rumored title]
Gust PS3 RPG Project [untitled]
Hudson Soft PS3 RPG Project [untitled]
Success PS3 RPG [untitled]
Sony Online Whimsical MMO [untitled]
Konami PS3 RPG [untitled]
Project D
Obsidian RPG Project [Untitled]
Monster Carnival [Working Title]
Cavia PS3 Action-RPG [Untitled]
Master P.J. [Working Title]
Mist of Chaos
Makai Wars

TITLES ALSO ON 360

Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The
Lord of the Rings: The White Council, The
Square Enix Next-Gen MMORPG [untitled]
Enchanted Arms
Alien -- RPG Project [untitled]
DC Universe
Elder Scrolls IV: The Shivering Isles, The [rumored for PS3]
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic III [rumored for PS3]
Age of Conan [not on PS3]
Marvel Ultimate Alliance

THE TITLES WE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT (not vaporware)

White Knight Story
Angel Rings [Working Title]
Shin Megami Tensei [untitled sequel]
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy Vs. XIII
Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom

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#2 avenger_dot

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http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/bioshock/news.html?sid=6158961&mode=press

I know you've probably seen this before, but I must show it again.
SELF-OWNED
dlind70

WOW, thast OFFICIAL statement killed this thread and OPM rumors

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#3 avenger_dot

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[QUOTE="avenger_dot"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="avenger_dot"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="avenger_dot"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="avenger_dot"]
360 RPG's in 2007:
Mass Effect
Two Worlds
Bioshock
Elveon
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey
Overlord
Circle of Doom
Eternal Sonata
Shivering Isles
Oblivion
Enchanted Arms
360 RPG's in 2008:
Fable 2
Cry On
Infinite Undiscovery
Square MMORPG
Conan
Jade Empire 2
Project Offste
Fallout 3
Kotor 3
PS3 RPG's in 2007:
Oblivion
Enchanted Arms
PS3 RPG's in 2008:
FF13
White Knight
Unkown Realms
Angel Rings
Monster Carnival
Ibacai

Way to pad the list for the 360. Take Fallout 3, KOTOR 3, and Jade Empires 2 off the 2008 list. And Oblivion and Enchanted Arms launch before 2007 so you can take those off too.

OK then

360 RPG's in 2006:

Oblivion
Enchanted Arms

360 RPG's in 2007:

Mass Effect
Two Worlds
Bioshock
Elveon
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey
Overlord
Circle of Doom
Eternal Sonata
Shivering Isles

360 RPG's in 2008:

Fable 2
Cry On
Infinite Undiscovery
Square MMORPG
Conan
Jade Empire 2
Project Offset

360 RPG's in 2009:
Fallout 3

Kotor 3

Project Chronos

PS3 RPG's in 2007:

Oblivion
Enchanted Arms

PS3 RPG's in 2008:

FF13
White Knight
Unkown Realms
Angel Rings
Monster Carnival

You're still padding the 360 while leaving out supposed games for the PS3. If you're going to add games not even announced then go ahead and just add a bunch to the PS3 as well. You're showing a true bias.

You name them (the good ones), i add them, deal ?

Well, seeing as I can now add any game (Doesn't even have to exist) I can make the PS3 list as long as I want. My whole point is that you need to take the games that aren't officially announced off your list. Now, I'm not saying they won't be made but putting in make believe games (as of right now) is pretty weak.

Oh come on, it is JUST 3 games, that will 100% come too, they are semi -confirmed anyway

No they are not. Jade Empires is rumored because a few Bioware devs said it is a possibility. KOTOR 3 does not exist (Not saying will not) and Fallout 3 has no launch date. Come on naso...sorry, avenger. Because why not add Suikoden, Wild Arms, Breath of Fire, and a new games from NIS to the PS3 list? Because they don't exist as of right now. They most likely will but that's not the issue.

Fallout 3 is confirmed in the making, so it is in 100%, i agree with Kotor 3, but i think i read that it is in the making by Kotor 2 developers, so semi confirmed, and Jade Empire 2 is a given anyway you see it

And if want to add to that PS3 RPG list with possible good titles, do so, why not ? If they are BOUND to come and are great games should be in

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#4 avenger_dot

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[QUOTE="avenger_dot"]
360 RPG's in 2006:
Oblivion
Enchanted Arms
360 RPG's in 2007:
Mass Effect
Two Worlds
Bioshock
Elveon
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey
Overlord
Circle of Doom
Eternal Sonata
Shivering Isles
360 RPG's in 2008:
Fable 2
Cry On
Infinite Undiscovery
Square MMORPG
Conan
Jade Empire 2
Project Offset
360 RPG's in 2009:
Fallout 3
Kotor 3
Project Chronos
PS3 RPG's in 2007:
Oblivion
Enchanted Arms
PS3 RPG's in 2008:
FF13
White Knight
Unkown Realms
Angel Rings
Monster Carnival
Two Worlds is NOT for PS3
Runningflame570

Two Worlds is not CONFIRMED for PS3 but it could still show up there, Warhammer is not CONFIRMED for 360 but it will still likely show up there. Jade Empire 2 is unannounced and apparently is something that is only being toyed around with, KOTOR III is rumored, Blue Dragon 2 is unannounced and is apparently still in planning, meaning it could go to another system of be cancelled outright. That Square-Enix MMO doesn't really have much known about it and it could just end up being a followup or expansion to FFXI...the fact its being planned for PS3 and PC also lends some credence to those rumors. Heres PS3's RPG listing according to IGN (typically has the most titles):

Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The
Sony Online Mercenary / Spy MMO [untitled]
Lord of the Rings: The White Council, The
Square Enix Next-Gen MMORPG [untitled]
White Knight Story
Enchanted Arms
Alien -- RPG Project [untitled]
DC Universe
Cryptic Studios MMO Project [untitled]
Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning
X Quest
Namco PS3 RPG [untitled]
Angel Rings [Working Title]
Shin Megami Tensei [untitled sequel]
tri-Crescendo PS3 Project [untitled]
James Cameron's Project 880 [rumored title]
Gust PS3 RPG Project [untitled]
Hudson Soft PS3 RPG Project [untitled]
Success PS3 RPG [untitled]
Elder Scrolls IV: The Shivering Isles, The
Sony Online Whimsical MMO [untitled]
Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic III [rumored]
Konami PS3 RPG [untitled]
Project D
Final Fantasy XIII
Final Fantasy Vs. XIII
Marvel Ultimate Alliance
Age of Conan
Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
Obsidian RPG Project [Untitled]
Monster Carnival [Working Title]
Cavia PS3 Action-RPG [Untitled]
Master P.J. [Working Title]
Mist of Chaos
Makai Wars

Endless Saga was cancelled so I've removed that.

Well, any links to pics or info for the above PS3 RPG's, i mean them unknown ones, are any of those in development or are they all vaporware ? I agree i have Jade Empire 2 and Kotor 3 in my list, but this is just 2 games that we know nothing about, in the PS3 list it is nearly ALL games !!! especially all exclusives

So, how many of those game actually EXIST ?

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#5 avenger_dot

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[QUOTE="avenger_dot"][QUOTE="avenger_dot"]
There is one HARD fact here, Oblivion was not made ground up for 360, meaning it looks half of what possibly could, and it is a 1st gen title, meaning it looks another half of what it could be
Meaning 360 could run Oblivion 4x better if it was made ground up AND was a 3rd gen title, maybe far better than the pc with mods version we see now, which frankly only has some more bumped and detailed textures, that Kameo EASILY rivals anyway
Of course i am not blind, a pc could run it EVEN better with a 8800GTX card, it is obvious, but that pc pics is totally possible on 360, that is all
Einhanderkiller

So, care to prove me wrong ?

Four times? May I ask where the hell did you get that number? And "half" of what it possibly could do? :? If Oblivion were a "second-gen" title, that wouldn't automatically make it look twice as good as a "first-gen" title; things don't work like that. Unless a better compression method is used for the textures--better than DXT1 (uses 4-bits for each pixel but does not require an alpha channel (if it has one then it is 1-bit)), which is the lowest quality but lowers the filesize the most--then the Xbox 360 will be unable to create graphics (smoothly, at least) comparable to that of Oblivion on the PC using QTP3 due to RAM limitations. It may be able to do it with heavy modifications and newer technologies, but right now, no, it cannot. Of course, if Bethesda were to rework Oblivion by the time the "3rd gen" rolled around, Oblivion would be better on the Xbox 360 than the PC (which would be the "1st gen" version), but that will not happen. I'm not saying that the 360 is not capable of generating graphics that are as good as Oblivion on the PC with graphics-enhancing mods, but rather that Oblivion on the 360, if the majority of the code were to be left untouched, is incapable of being graphically as good as the PC version due to hardware limitations.

I agree that without optimization would not run, like on PC, due to ram limitations, but that is not what i suggested anyway, not just put those textures as on pc and will work, that IS imposible

Still, it could do that kind of graphics with proper work

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#6 avenger_dot

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[QUOTE="avenger_dot"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="avenger_dot"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="avenger_dot"]
360 RPG's in 2007:
Mass Effect
Two Worlds
Bioshock
Elveon
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey
Overlord
Circle of Doom
Eternal Sonata
Shivering Isles
Oblivion
Enchanted Arms
360 RPG's in 2008:
Fable 2
Cry On
Infinite Undiscovery
Square MMORPG
Conan
Jade Empire 2
Project Offste
Fallout 3
Kotor 3
PS3 RPG's in 2007:
Oblivion
Enchanted Arms
PS3 RPG's in 2008:
FF13
White Knight
Unkown Realms
Angel Rings
Monster Carnival
Ibacai

Way to pad the list for the 360. Take Fallout 3, KOTOR 3, and Jade Empires 2 off the 2008 list. And Oblivion and Enchanted Arms launch before 2007 so you can take those off too.

OK then

360 RPG's in 2006:

Oblivion
Enchanted Arms

360 RPG's in 2007:

Mass Effect
Two Worlds
Bioshock
Elveon
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey
Overlord
Circle of Doom
Eternal Sonata
Shivering Isles

360 RPG's in 2008:

Fable 2
Cry On
Infinite Undiscovery
Square MMORPG
Conan
Jade Empire 2
Project Offset

360 RPG's in 2009:
Fallout 3

Kotor 3

Project Chronos

PS3 RPG's in 2007:

Oblivion
Enchanted Arms

PS3 RPG's in 2008:

FF13
White Knight
Unkown Realms
Angel Rings
Monster Carnival

You're still padding the 360 while leaving out supposed games for the PS3. If you're going to add games not even announced then go ahead and just add a bunch to the PS3 as well. You're showing a true bias.

You name them (the good ones), i add them, deal ?

Well, seeing as I can now add any game (Doesn't even have to exist) I can make the PS3 list as long as I want. My whole point is that you need to take the games that aren't officially announced off your list. Now, I'm not saying they won't be made but putting in make believe games (as of right now) is pretty weak.

Oh come on, it is JUST 3 games, that will 100% come too, they are semi -confirmed anyway

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#7 avenger_dot

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Since hes copying topic, I'll copy my response to him from the other topic: [QUOTE="avenger_dot"][QUOTE="Runningflame570"][QUOTE="-RPGamer-"] Yeah b/c tri-Ace and tri-Crescendo just make bad RPGs :| Runningflame570

If the titles they are doing for 360 are on the same level as SO3...yeah. But honestly, the list isn't crappy because of the games, its crappy because there are games that aren't even RPGs included and tons of titles which can be found elsewhere.

There is NOT ONE that can be found on PS3 or Wii !!!! And ALL are RPG's So, IF YOU CAN, name those that do come to PS3 or are not rpg's

Enchanted Arms (PS3)
LoTR: The White Council (PS3)
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (PS3)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (PS3)
Two Worlds: Temptation (PS3)
X Quest (PS3)
Warhammer Online (PS3)

But not only that..

Elveon (PC)
Bioshock (PC) although this one really isn't a RPG.
Final Fantasy XI (PS2 & PC, both scored much higher)
Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom (PC)
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance (PS2, Xbox, PC, Wii, PSP, GBA) there was also a cancelled DS version.
Phantasy Star Universe (PS2 & PC)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (PC & Mobile)
Two Worlds (PC)
Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning (PC)
Dungeon EXPLORER (PSP) no such game as Dungeon Crawler for 360.

So lets see what that actually leaves..

Embrace of Time
Trusty Bell
Spectral Force 3 (has been described as having graphics that "could be done on Dreamcast")
Spectral Diario
Mass Effect
Magna Carta 2
Lost Odyssey
Far East of Eden Culdcept Saga (has been described as "possibly the buggiest piece of software in videogame history") Not such a "Grand List" anymore, is it?

360 RPG's in 2006:

Oblivion
Enchanted Arms

360 RPG's in 2007:

Mass Effect
Two Worlds
Bioshock
Elveon
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey
Overlord
Circle of Doom
Eternal Sonata
Shivering Isles

360 RPG's in 2008:

Fable 2
Cry On
Infinite Undiscovery
Square MMORPG
Conan
Jade Empire 2
Project Offset

360 RPG's in 2009:
Fallout 3

Kotor 3

Project Chronos

PS3 RPG's in 2007:

Oblivion
Enchanted Arms

PS3 RPG's in 2008:

FF13
White Knight
Unkown Realms
Angel Rings
Monster Carnival

Two Worlds is NOT for PS3

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#8 avenger_dot

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[QUOTE="avenger_dot"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="avenger_dot"]
360 RPG's in 2007:
Mass Effect
Two Worlds
Bioshock
Elveon
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey
Overlord
Circle of Doom
Eternal Sonata
Shivering Isles
Oblivion
Enchanted Arms
360 RPG's in 2008:
Fable 2
Cry On
Infinite Undiscovery
Square MMORPG
Conan
Jade Empire 2
Project Offste
Fallout 3
Kotor 3
PS3 RPG's in 2007:
Oblivion
Enchanted Arms
PS3 RPG's in 2008:
FF13
White Knight
Unkown Realms
Angel Rings
Monster Carnival
Ibacai

Way to pad the list for the 360. Take Fallout 3, KOTOR 3, and Jade Empires 2 off the 2008 list. And Oblivion and Enchanted Arms launch before 2007 so you can take those off too.

OK then

360 RPG's in 2006:

Oblivion
Enchanted Arms

360 RPG's in 2007:

Mass Effect
Two Worlds
Bioshock
Elveon
Blue Dragon
Lost Odyssey
Overlord
Circle of Doom
Eternal Sonata
Shivering Isles

360 RPG's in 2008:

Fable 2
Cry On
Infinite Undiscovery
Square MMORPG
Conan
Jade Empire 2
Project Offset

360 RPG's in 2009:
Fallout 3

Kotor 3

Project Chronos

PS3 RPG's in 2007:

Oblivion
Enchanted Arms

PS3 RPG's in 2008:

FF13
White Knight
Unkown Realms
Angel Rings
Monster Carnival

You're still padding the 360 while leaving out supposed games for the PS3. If you're going to add games not even announced then go ahead and just add a bunch to the PS3 as well. You're showing a true bias.

You name them (the good ones), i add them, deal ?

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#9 avenger_dot

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I thought Broshock was a FPS...?.. am i worng?Yoruichii

Of course you are, it is a RPG, that is why there is no MP like all shooters

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#10 avenger_dot

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Why did you take out PC games ? They are 360/pc, so TEHY ARE ON 360 !!!!
And the 360 ONLY list goes
Fable 2
Mass Effect 1-2-3
Lost Odyssey
Blue dragon 1-2
Cry On
Infinite Undiscovery
Eternal Sonata
Well it is most impressive, given PS3 only has FF13 and WK
BTW Two Worlds was NOT confirmed by anyone, and the page REMOVED for PS3
Runningflame570

Because they can be found on other systems, in multiple cases several other systems. Mass Effect 2 & 3 haven't even been announced as being in planning yet so far as I know. Blue Dragon will probably get a sequel, but it hasn't been announced. PS3 if you would look above has quite a number and oh yeah..Warhammer hasn't been confirmed by anybody for 360 either, so I guess you should remove that.

Two Worlds

Overlord

Elveon

Bioshock

Shivering Isles

The Precursors

Circle of Doom

CAN'T BE FOUND ON PS3 !!!! Just to clarify your claims, those above are 360/PC ONLY for now

Mass Effect is a trilogy CONFIRMED !!! With DL content in between apisodes CONFIRMED too !!!

And i did not put Warhammer in, this is not even my list, i just do not get your points

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