Dragon's Dogma 2 Review (GS 9/10)

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The game is more reactive with a dodge roll. That's all. Nothing else needs to be said, its superior to titles without one.

I would even take almost no iframes like in MHW (without using the Evade Window decoration, obviously) over a game you do nothing, and just stand still. Its not good, and there's a reason why almost every action game has it, even Diablo 4.

You didn't need an overpowered dodge roll command in Dragon's Dogma 1 to avoid damage.

And you require far more reacting and predicting when playing something like Mount&Blade or Street Fighter. Than you ever did in a game with dodge rolls. With dodge rolls simply pressing the roll button is usually enough to avoid damage. In Street Fighter, simply blocking isn't enough. You have to protect yourself properly based on what your opponent is doing. Same in Mount&Blade.

You didn't because enemies are super slow, and back then, dodge rolls weren't the standard. Dark Souls standardized dodges AND the flasks system. Its so far ahead of what was in DD1, and DD2 cuz they haven't changed it from the first game, which is very stupid. Having to go in your inventory to heal, restore stamina, etc, is archaic, and only acceptable when its done by companies that are still in the 90's. Companies such as Nintendo and their Zelda, which has a pathetic healing system.

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#152  Edited By Maroxad
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You didn't because enemies are super slow, and back then, dodge rolls weren't the standard. Dark Souls standardized dodges AND the flasks system. Its so far ahead of what was in DD1, and DD2 cuz they haven't changed it from the first game, which is very stupid. Having to go in your inventory to heal, restore stamina, etc, is archaic, and only acceptable when its done by companies that are still in the 90's. Companies such as Nintendo and their Zelda, which has a pathetic healing system.

They havent changed it because DD2 is trying to be its own thing. The decisions made for DD2, will likely make sense for DD2. But I cannot fully say since I havent played it yet. And I wont judge until then. A dodge roll would not add anything, since Dragons Dogma is by design, extremely aggressive. Staggering, mobility are your defensive tools, they also double as offensive tools.

If you want to dodge roll, play as a thief. Striders had a dodge roll in DD1. Spellspears have a teleport, fighters have a shield, warriors are really good at staggering and have super armor. And I like it that way. EVERYONE has different ways to defend themselves, actually helps differentiate classes. Why are you opposed to class diversity?

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#153  Edited By hardwenzen  Online
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@Maroxad said:
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You didn't because enemies are super slow, and back then, dodge rolls weren't the standard. Dark Souls standardized dodges AND the flasks system. Its so far ahead of what was in DD1, and DD2 cuz they haven't changed it from the first game, which is very stupid. Having to go in your inventory to heal, restore stamina, etc, is archaic, and only acceptable when its done by companies that are still in the 90's. Companies such as Nintendo and their Zelda, which has a pathetic healing system.

They havent changed it because DD2 is trying to be its own thing. The decisions made for DD2, will likely make sense for DD2. But I cannot fully say since I havent played it yet. And I wont judge until then. A dodge roll would not add anything, since Dragons Dogma is by design, extremely aggressive. Staggering, mobility are your defensive tools, they also double as offensive tools.

If you want to dodge roll, play as a thief. Striders had a dodge roll in DD1. Spellspears have a teleport, fighters have a shield, warriors are really good at staggering and have super armor. And I like it that way. EVERYONE has different ways to defend themselves, actually helps differentiate classes. Why are you opposed to class diversity?

I am aware of it trying to be its own thing, and glad its extremely similar to the original, but are we gonna pretend like going in your menu every time you need to heal is a good system? Some mechanics are just so far superior to others that its like comparing 30fps to 60fps, and trying to justify 30fps being cool and unique.

Having a dodge roll for gap closers, repositioning and to a lesser extent to iframe attacks is not being opposed to class diversity🤡

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#155  Edited By Maroxad
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@Pedro: Pretty much. I see no reason to talk to Wenzen any further on this topic. It is clear he wants all games to play the same. I like diversity.

I used to be just like Wenzen though. I had a very narrow view of what I wanted games to be. Then I played games like FF14, which by all rights, I should not have enjoyed, yet I ended up loving it. And I eventually learnt to enjoy games based on their own merits, rather than my own prejudices.

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#156 Pedro
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@Pedro: Pretty much. I see no reason to talk to Wenzen any further on this topic. It is clear he wants all games to play the same. I like diversity.

Please try to avoid that word. 😂

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#157  Edited By Maroxad
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@Pedro said:
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@Pedro: Pretty much. I see no reason to talk to Wenzen any further on this topic. It is clear he wants all games to play the same. I like diversity.

Please try to avoid that word. 😂

I do wonder what Wenzen's reaction would be if he saw my Twitter bio.

It has riled up so many unhinged people. 😂

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#158 hardwenzen  Online
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@Maroxad: If you have he/him, that alone would damage my sanity.

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#159 Pedro
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@Maroxad: They are very delicate folks.😲

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#161  Edited By Maroxad
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Some of the new monsters look a lot of fun to fight!

Bronze colossus seems the most interesting to me. Cant wait to see how it utilizes the games climbing mechanics.

On a side note, I also made both my Arisen and Main Pawn now. Can't wait to give them a go in the main game once I recover from my Open World ARPG aversion. Want to enjoy this gem as much as possible. I wonder if my friend whom I based my Main Pawn will get it. If so, what would he think of my main pawn :3

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@Maroxad: They are very delicate folks.😲

I specifically selected the traits I have that would annoy Antivaxxers the most.

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That is just the most pathetic diarrhea i have ever seen in my life.

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#163  Edited By UItravioIence
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Finally played the first game.. it's trash.. I'm sure this sequel will be trash also.

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#164 Pedro
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@uitravioience: 🤷‍♂️ Meanwhile we will continue to look forward and enjoy said game.

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#165 UItravioIence
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@Pedro: never said you couldn't 🤷

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#166  Edited By Pedro
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@uitravioience: Exactly, making your response 🤷‍♂️

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#167 UItravioIence
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@Pedro: ....what?

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#168 Maroxad
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Finally played the first game.. it's trash.. I'm sure this sequel will be trash also.

Unfortunate that it didnt work for you.

I loved it. But yeah, Dragon's Dogma isn't for everyone. And that is a GOOD thing. I am glad we have games that aim towards a certain demographic, rather than try to please everyone but be loved by no one.

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#169 Pedro
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@uitravioience: No one made the claim that we couldn't continue to look forward to the game and enjoy it, yet you implied as such.

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#170 Maroxad
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Has anyone been able to make a character that looks really fat? I was able to do so in DD1, but I havent really found the options to do so in DD2.

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That is just the most pathetic diarrhea i have ever seen in my life.

I made the bio specifically to annoy anti-vaxxers, and it does its job perfectly. If it annoys you as well, that is 2 bird with one stone

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#171 Pedro
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@Maroxad: Like how fat?

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#172 Maroxad
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@Maroxad: Like how fat?

XXXL ideally.

So far I can make my characters XL. But not above that.

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@Maroxad: Like how fat?

XXXL ideally.

So far I can make my characters XL. But not above that.

I just tried and you can just be XL. I don't know the XL sizing so I am taking your word on this.

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#182 Maroxad
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@Pedro: I will share screenshots when I am home. Of the sort of size I would want :)

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#183 Maroxad
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https://www.dragonsdogma.com/2/vocationquiz/en-us/

I got sorcerer. Although I see myself more as a Warrior or Thief.

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#184 Pedro
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@Maroxad:Same. Sorcerer is still wearing a dress. When would this shitty looking trope die?

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#185 Maroxad
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@Pedro: One of the thingsI always appreciated about The Elder Scrolls is how you can be a mage in full plate mail if you so wish.

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#186 R4gn4r0k
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https://www.dragonsdogma.com/2/vocationquiz/en-us/

I got sorcerer. Although I see myself more as a Warrior or Thief.

The way these vocations are set up, it makes it seem like you can start off as a warrior, but later on have some magic stuff too.

But yeah these quizes are pretty fun, I did one before Hogwarts Legacy launched to see which house I would fit in :D

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#187 SecretPolice
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@R4gn4r0k said:

But yeah these quizes are pretty fun, I did one before Hogwarts Legacy launched to see which house I would fit in :D

Why not take all the guess work out of it and use...

lol :P

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@SecretPolice said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

But yeah these quizes are pretty fun, I did one before Hogwarts Legacy launched to see which house I would fit in :D

Why not take all the guess work out of it and use...

lol :P

Hogwarts 2 collectors edition with the sorting hat. DO IT!!!

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@R4gn4r0k said:
@SecretPolice said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

But yeah these quizes are pretty fun, I did one before Hogwarts Legacy launched to see which house I would fit in :D

Why not take all the guess work out of it and use...

lol :P

Hogwarts 2 collectors edition with the sorting hat. DO IT!!!

Ya know, I bet a special edition H2 that comes with a mechanical talking hat like that would sell 10's of millions even with an exorbitant price tag and make Yuuuuge profits. Yeah, do it!! lol :P

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#190  Edited By hardwenzen  Online
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Particle effects are on point

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Only one week away now, can’t wait. Woo hoo!

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I feel really really sad for my local vegans such as Maroxad for not participating on day one. Not playing what is guaranteed to be considered as one of the best open world games ever made. Sad and pathetic all at the same time.

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#193  Edited By Last_Lap
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@Maroxad said:

You're a cyclist, you and @hardwenzen would be besties as he's a cyclist too lol.

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#194 Last_Lap
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I hope it scores a 6 or 7 so we can call it Dragons Dogmeh 2 🤣🤣🤣

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You're a cyclist, you and @hardwenzen would be besties as he's a cyclist too lol.

I do mountain biking. He is way too old for this shit. And stop trolling my Dragon's Smegma 2.

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@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:
@Maroxad said:

You're a cyclist, you and @hardwenzen would be besties as he's a cyclist too lol.

I do mountain biking. He is way too old for this shit. And stop trolling my Dragon's Smegma 2.

Still riding a bike, you 2 could be besties and co-op Dragons Dogmeh 2 😁

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#197  Edited By Maroxad
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Ok, it seems I can make a fat character. Thank you Wenzen :)

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Particle effects are on point

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#198  Edited By Maroxad
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Looking at Wenzen's posts itt. It is clear he is very easy to rile up.

Now to calm him down a bit. I don't think Elden Ring is a bad. It can see why it won GOTY everywhere. While the game wasnt my cup of tea, it was still by all means an excellent game.

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Only one week away now, can’t wait. Woo hoo!

I am excited for it.

It turns out my new PC components actually arrived! This might be a good first game to test my new hardware on :) (Well, I had them for a while, the motherboard took ages to arrive)

THere is some controversy with the dynamic difficulty, 30 fps on consoles and odd vocation selection. But no game is perfect and I am looking forward to the game regardless.

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#199 Archangel3371
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@Maroxad: Congrats. Enjoy the new hardware and games. 👍

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#200 Maroxad
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@Maroxad: Congrats. Enjoy the new hardware and games. 👍

Thanks 👍

Upgraded for work purposes, but faster loading games is also a nice bonus. Didnt upgrade my graphics card yet though.