Horizon Forbidden West failed to crack the top 40 on Steam sales chart last week

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#51 R4gn4r0k
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Game is 4th top selling right now.

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#52 Willy105
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I have the first one on Steam. First time I played it, my first impression was that I had played a dozen games like this already.

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#53 Jag85
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@Mozelleple112 said:

@Jag85: I'll never forgive ND for taking Tess (a hot chick in the original, Joel's sidepiece) and turning her into a granny in TLOU1 remake.

While I think people are definitely exaggerating with Aloy in HFW lol they probably have done bits to make Aloy's model less attractive.

This is what makes Stellar Blade such a breath of fresh air.

What was her age in the original TLOU? Was she always supposed to be 51 or is that something they added in the remake?

The weirdest for me is Spider-Man 2. In the first game, Peter Parker and MJ looked around the same age... But in SM2, MJ and Peter look like mother and son!

Stellar Blade is from a Korean dev. Asian devs don't follow Western standards.

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#54 uninspiredcup
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I agree, Sony games are aesthetically unpleasing.

Nintendo use far inferior hardware yet produce beauty.

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#55  Edited By Mozelleple112
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@Jag85: I don't think it was ever confirmed, but it has been suggested she was around 30-42 in the original story, with Joel being around 50.

Of course ND being all woke and people finding it weird for a grown woman in her 30s to be dating a guy in his late 40s / early 50s so I believe ND retconned and changed her age to 51 in order to make it "less creepy".

Then they turned a hot 30 something chick into what looks like a 55 year mom.

Cause god forbid handsome gritty Joel gets a hot not so old girlfriend.

EDIT: I'm at work and cause of NSFW stuff etc I'm not going to deep dive lol but that was the gist of it.

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#56 DragonfireXZ95
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It's releasing next to Dragon's Dogma 2 and the first game just wasn't that good, so this is no surprise.

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#57 Gifford38
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@Jag85 said:

FYI, this is Aloy's real-life face model:

Western devs have a bad habit of taking an attractive model IRL and making her look unattractive in the game.

It could simply be that they're incompetent at rendering 3D models, but it's more likely that they're deliberately doing this to please a loud minority.

yup Im sick of it. If I was the model I would be pissed and sue them.

look at fable model. samething

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#58 KvallyX
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@R4gn4r0k said:

Game is 4th top selling right now.

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#59 uninspiredcup
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What matters is that it tried.

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#60  Edited By Jag85
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@Mozelleple112:

It's very normal for a 30-something woman to date a 50 year-old man. That would be a dumb reason to make her older.

So they think it's "creepy" for 50yo Joel to date a 30-something woman... Yet they don't think it's creepy that Spider-Man 2 makes Peter Parker look like a teenager and his love interest MJ look like his mother. The irony.

What NSFW stuff? Why would there be anything NSFW about this topic?

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#61 Pedro
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Another thread about the woke boogieman. Men are really fragile.

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#62 Robertos
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Alloy nude mods will be epic. Also best on PC like 99% of PS5's library lol.

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#63 locus-solus
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22,500 concurrent players not great for a AAA game. Maybe it will be higher on the weekend.

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#64 Pedro
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@locus-solus said:

22,500 concurrent players not great for a AAA game. Maybe it will be higher on the weekend.

More day ones on PC incoming. 😂

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#65  Edited By uninspiredcup
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This is actually a good sign.

In the Crysis days PC gamers would play any old shit with with nice visuals. It was like a clone army of Bassman all over the fucking place.

Now instead of playing a Sony tech demo with a pie faced cave-woman, they are playing exciting diverse games for a wide variety of specs.

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#66  Edited By lamprey263
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I think people are realizing the celebration of Sony's super exclusives are largely overblown beautifully mediocre games, just dabbling in a few of what has been offered so far is giving people pause about trying them and/or double dipping if they own a PS console.

Some reason Sony is still full steam ahead about about porting to PC without any idea of how to strengthen their console-PC ecosystem.

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#67 BassMan
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@uninspiredcup said:

This is actually a good sign.

In the Crysis days PC gamers would play any old shit with with nice visuals. It was like a clone army of Bassman all over the fucking place.

Now instead of playing a Sony tech demo with a pie faced cave-woman, they are playing exciting diverse games for a wide variety of specs.

LOL. Crysis was actually a good game that was both fun to play and pushed tech. Those were good times back then. :)

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@BassMan: And it's the game that got started on the PC path and if it wasn't for Crysis, I would have never discovered the beauty of PC gaming. I still replay the game and sometimes Crysis 3.

Curious as to what Crysis 4 will bring to the table.

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#69  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@locus-solus said:

22,500 concurrent players not great for a AAA game. Maybe it will be higher on the weekend.

I'm sure if Half Life 3 launched today it'd fail to crack 20.000 concurrent.

What does concurrent tell us anyway? It's the middle of the workweek?

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#70 BassMan
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@davillain: Yeah, Crysis helped pave the road for many games and game technology. It is definitely a landmark title. Hopefully Crysis 4 is good, but I am not sure of the ability of Crytek these days. They have been all over the place as a company for the last 10 years or so.

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#71  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@R4gn4r0k said:
@locus-solus said:

22,500 concurrent players not great for a AAA game. Maybe it will be higher on the weekend.

I'm sure if Half Life 3 launched today it'd fail to crack 20.000 concurrent.

What does concurrent tell us anyway? It's the middle of the workweek?

Alyx was 16 thousand.

2% of Steam users have VR headset.

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#72 Ospi
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Zero dawn was such a generic open world game and got too repetitive very quickly. Love the environments and themes of the game but at its core offers very little. I wonder if people remember that too well and will steer clear of this one.

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#73  Edited By PC_Rocks
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@Jag85 said:

FYI, this is Aloy's real-life face model:

Western devs have a bad habit of taking an attractive model IRL and making her look unattractive in the game.

It could simply be that they're incompetent at rendering 3D models, but it's more likely that they're deliberately doing this to please a loud minority.

Is she in some famous series or film? Looks familiar but I can't recall seeing her and no I don't recall her likeness from Aloy. I'm guessing she's Dutch though.

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#74 Sam3231
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I'd get it but not at full price. 20 bucks maybe.

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#75 ermacness
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@robertos said:

Alloy nude mods will be epic. Also best on PC like 99% of PS5's library lol.

Just like 100% of the Xbox’s library as well. At least Sony is giving potential customers reasons to buy a PlayStation unlike MS who gave consumers very little reason to buy a Xbox.

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#76 ermacness
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It’s not like Sony really need the PC crowd for Horizon Forbidden West to be successful. Sony porting over its exclusive to PC is more like a “why not?” move.

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I gotta say, Forbidden West has me hooked so damn well, the whole world is just looks damn good on PC. Glad I waited this long to come on PC. Worth the money over Dragon's Dogma 2 and that's saying something.

Next up is Ghost of Tsushima PC!

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#78 uninspiredcup
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Some crap.

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@pc_rocks said:
@Jag85 said:

FYI, this is Aloy's real-life face model:

Western devs have a bad habit of taking an attractive model IRL and making her look unattractive in the game.

It could simply be that they're incompetent at rendering 3D models, but it's more likely that they're deliberately doing this to please a loud minority.

Is she in some famous series or film? Looks familiar but I can't recall seeing her and no I don't recall her likeness from Aloy. I'm guessing she's Dutch though.

Yeah, she's a Dutch actress. Her name is Hannah Hoekstra.

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Another victory for Nixxes PC port is astounding:

If there's one thing Sony has done good is by purchasing Nixxes to handle PC ports. They still have a long way to go but so far, they're pretty good on PC porting.

Thank you PC gamers for supporting HFW. We're da best👍👏

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#81 uninspiredcup
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This is still incredibly low.

But rather a disgusting Sony game ported well does better than Dragons Scama 2: We couldn't be arsed optimizing it

(9 out 10)

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#82  Edited By Pedro
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@Jag85 said:

FYI, this is Aloy's real-life face model:

Western devs have a bad habit of taking an attractive model IRL and making her look unattractive in the game.

It could simply be that they're incompetent at rendering 3D models, but it's more likely that they're deliberately doing this to please a loud minority.

This is unattractive?

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@R4gn4r0k: Yeah its #6 now, behind the likes of DD2 (most hyped game of the year), Helldivers 2, CS2 and PUBG.

Can't really expect more than that.

But that wouldn't make for an interesting thread now will it lol.

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#84 Last_Lap
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@robertos: So you play on PC for nude mods, that doesn't surprise me one little bit 🤦‍♂️

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@ghostofgolden said:

The first PlayStation games that released on PC sold just ok, but they’ve been performing worse and worse as they‘ve come out. PC is a different market. A market that’s not gonna save PlayStation or Xbox…

Pretty much. While I see Xbox still going at it, I wonder how long PS will.

And people on either here or other gaming forums asks why Nintendo doesn't do this? Well, not including the arguments from the pro-emu crowd, here we go!

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#86 Jag85
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@Pedro said:
@Jag85 said:

FYI, this is Aloy's real-life face model:

Western devs have a bad habit of taking an attractive model IRL and making her look unattractive in the game.

It could simply be that they're incompetent at rendering 3D models, but it's more likely that they're deliberately doing this to please a loud minority.

This is unattractive?

That screenshot makes her look a bit better than other screenshots I've seen of her. Yet even in that screenshot, she still doesn't look much like the IRL actress she's supposed to be based on. With Capcom games, the in-game characters typically resemble the IRL models. But with Western AAA games, the in-game characters often bear little resemblance to the IRL models.

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She looks like the off-spring of Robert Z'Dar who played Maniac Cop.

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@ermacness:

Bu bu bu Xbox 🤣😂

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@Jag85 said:

FYI, this is Aloy's real-life face model:

Western devs have a bad habit of taking an attractive model IRL and making her look unattractive in the game.

It could simply be that they're incompetent at rendering 3D models, but it's more likely that they're deliberately doing this to please a loud minority.

Holy Crap!! She is just so beautiful. why the hell sony made her ugly?

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@ermacness:

Bu bu bu Xbox 🤣😂

Funny you say that because I’m willing to bet you that Nintendo and Sony are saying the same exact thing you just said.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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PC gamers don’t want to support devs by paying full price, so they will wait for the grey market to be at least 50% cheaper.

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#92 uninspiredcup
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@SolidGame_basic said:

PC gamers don’t want to support devs by paying full price, so they will wait for the grey market to be at least 50% cheaper.

We truly are gods chosen people.

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@robertos: So you play on PC for nude mods,

Yes.

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@Pedro said:
@Jag85 said:

FYI, this is Aloy's real-life face model:

Western devs have a bad habit of taking an attractive model IRL and making her look unattractive in the game.

It could simply be that they're incompetent at rendering 3D models, but it's more likely that they're deliberately doing this to please a loud minority.

This is unattractive?

I always thought they got they did well with the art direction for Aloy. She's attractive, but still fits in with the setting. If you look closely at the screenshot and glamor shot of the actress, you can see her facial features line up pretty well. Main difference is Aloy is a bit sun burnt and doesn't wear makeup. Both things that make sense given her living situation. But you know gamers. It's "pandering" any time a woman doesn't look like an Instagram THOT.

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@robertos said:
@last_lap said:

@robertos: So you play on PC for nude mods,

Yes.

You must have very hairy palms.

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@uninspiredcup said:

She looks like the off-spring of Robert Z'Dar who played Maniac Cop.

I remember that movie, I had it on VHS back in the day lol.

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#97 PC_Rocks
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@judaspete said:
@Pedro said:
@Jag85 said:

FYI, this is Aloy's real-life face model:

Western devs have a bad habit of taking an attractive model IRL and making her look unattractive in the game.

It could simply be that they're incompetent at rendering 3D models, but it's more likely that they're deliberately doing this to please a loud minority.

This is unattractive?

I always thought they got they did well with the art direction for Aloy. She's attractive, but still fits in with the setting. If you look closely at the screenshot and glamor shot of the actress, you can see her facial features line up pretty well. Main difference is Aloy is a bit sun burnt and doesn't wear makeup. Both things that make sense given her living situation. But you know gamers. It's "pandering" any time a woman doesn't look like an Instagram THOT.

Now that's one ugly looking photoshop like extra fugly. Even the exaggerated pic in in OP isn't so ugly.

Don't know about anyone but I don't see anything wrong but Aloy's model. It's attractive and have no idea why gamers think it's ugly. I don't see a problem if the character doesn't look exactly like the actress, it's still good looking.

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#98 hardwenzen
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@pc_rocks said:
@judaspete said:
@Pedro said:
@Jag85 said:

FYI, this is Aloy's real-life face model:

Western devs have a bad habit of taking an attractive model IRL and making her look unattractive in the game.

It could simply be that they're incompetent at rendering 3D models, but it's more likely that they're deliberately doing this to please a loud minority.

This is unattractive?

I always thought they got they did well with the art direction for Aloy. She's attractive, but still fits in with the setting. If you look closely at the screenshot and glamor shot of the actress, you can see her facial features line up pretty well. Main difference is Aloy is a bit sun burnt and doesn't wear makeup. Both things that make sense given her living situation. But you know gamers. It's "pandering" any time a woman doesn't look like an Instagram THOT.

Now that's one ugly looking photoshop like extra fugly. Even the exaggerated pic in in OP isn't so ugly.

Don't know about anyone but I don't see anything wrong but Aloy's model. It's attractive and have no idea why gamers think it's ugly. I don't see a problem if the character doesn't look exactly like the actress, it's still good looking.

Have someone hacked your account? What kind of a take is this? This is not what you usually hear from hermits.

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@Jag85: you can get the hottest people in the world to look ugly if you take a picture from a bad angle at the right time. That's what these incles are doing with a lot of these screenshots.

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#100 rogerjak
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I see that xbox fans are running on pure copium nowadays. Sad.