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#1  Edited By Kinthalis
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@commander said:
@Kinthalis said:

Lol, what?

Steam hardway survey places the number of PC's with PS4 or better performance at over 50%. That's over 90 million active steam users - or more than double the number of PS4's ever sold.

The game is pretty much guaranteed to have performance issues on the PS4 - rumors are that it was delayed because of these issues on PS4 - and probably play at 50% or less of the draw distance than on PC.

That procedural generation is likely hitting that CPU hard - and if that's the case it's likely that even the Neo won't perform as well as even an entry level gaming PC (since the CPU on the Neo appears to be a slightly OC'ed version of the one on the PS4).

Your best bet is sticking to the PC, not only for No MAn's SKy, but also for the plethora of other space games/sims on the platform now and those coming in the future.

If that is true I just hope we get some benchmarks before the game releases.

Probaly not before release, but likely the day of.

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#2  Edited By Kinthalis
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I find it hilarious that this thing get's called a "shit" PC, and yet it outperforms the consoles in gaming benchmarks.

Consoles: when even a shit PC is too expensive for your burger flipping salary.

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#3  Edited By Kinthalis
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@loco145: Pretty much this.

@loco145 said:

$400 bucks for a GPU upgrade to sub 480/1060 performance? And people say that PC gaming is expensive...

Pretty much this.

I'm thinking of getting the Xbox One Slim though, do want 4K TV support, plus it looks nice. If Microsoft announces built in PC streaming support a la Steam Link, I'll pull the trigger immediatley and see if I can get a few bucks trade in value for my current Xbone. Otherwise I'll wait.

Don't play games on consoles, much prefer PC gaming, so it's mostly for the entertainment system features.

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And that's why you need to put out your games on PC publishers.

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#5  Edited By Kinthalis
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@Maroxad said:
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Don't know if you're wooshign me or what. Can you explain how it doesn't? You need quality writing for storylines to be compelling, and interesting and to make the player feel involved in the story. You need quest diversity to provide you with more and more branching avenues for role-playing.

This is obvious... I thought...

Edit: Hell, the strongest roleplaying games are still those games that actually ahve a dismal storyline and are in fact very story lite.

Such as?

Sorry but to assert that storytelling and good writing has been a must for roleplaying is nothing but asinine.

I never said they are a must. That's you babbling.

What we have here is you coming up with a definition of an RPG that you prefer and then proclaiming any RPG that doesn't conform to your narrow deifnition, a "bad" RPG.

Talk about asinine.

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@Maroxad said:
@Kinthalis said:
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How exactly does quest diversity and quality of writing impact how good a game lets you roleplay?

Don't know if you're wooshign me or what. Can you explain how it doesn't? You need quality writing for storylines to be compelling, and interesting and to make the player feel involved in the story. You need quest diversity to provide you with more and more branching avenues for role-playing.

This is obvious... I thought...

Edit: Hell, the strongest roleplaying games are still those games that actually ahve a dismal storyline and are in fact very story lite.

Such as?

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@flyincloud1116 said:

The same price as the Xbone S, WOW!

M$ really doesn't have a clue. They have an opportunity to undercut Sony for a year until Scorpio hits yet they are pricing a slim console the same as the Neo. They will continue to get destroyed.

Won't the standard unit drop in price though?

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#8  Edited By Kinthalis
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@Maroxad said:
@Kinthalis said:
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Are people seriously arguing the Witcher isn't an RPG?

Anyway, my only issue witht he game is Geralt's sometime's vexing, unresponsive and inaccurate movement. Sometimes activating an object in a hut is a 2 minute ordeal. Combat isn't very fun either.

But the world, the story, the characters, the quests, the graphics, are all excellent. The game is nearly perfect.

No, what we are saying is that it is a piss poor RPG.

In what way? I can't think of many recent RPG's that cna even touch it in terms of player agency, quality of writing, character development, and quest diversity. Again, combat isn't very good, I'll give you that. The loot and crating system wasn't my cup of tea exactly either, but the systems weren't terrible.

Certainly games like Dragon Age Inquisition: return of the elder berries, now with more single player MMO, don't come close. Neither does the incredibly dumbed down new Fallout.

Pillars of Eternity is up there, as well as is Divinity: Original Sin. Can't think of many other recent titles at least...

How exactly does quest diversity and quality of writing impact how good a game lets you roleplay?

Don't know if you're wooshign me or what. Can you explain how it doesn't? You need quality writing for storylines to be compelling, and interesting and to make the player feel involved in the story. You need quest diversity to provide you with more and more branching avenues for role-playing.

This is obvious... I thought...

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@Maroxad said:
@Kinthalis said:

Are people seriously arguing the Witcher isn't an RPG?

Anyway, my only issue witht he game is Geralt's sometime's vexing, unresponsive and inaccurate movement. Sometimes activating an object in a hut is a 2 minute ordeal. Combat isn't very fun either.

But the world, the story, the characters, the quests, the graphics, are all excellent. The game is nearly perfect.

No, what we are saying is that it is a piss poor RPG.

In what way? I can't think of many recent RPG's that cna even touch it in terms of player agency, quality of writing, character development, and quest diversity. Again, combat isn't very good, I'll give you that. The loot and crating system wasn't my cup of tea exactly either, but the systems weren't terrible.

Certainly games like Dragon Age Inquisition: return of the elder berries, now with more single player MMO, don't come close. Neither does the incredibly dumbed down new Fallout.

Pillars of Eternity is up there, as well as is Divinity: Original Sin. Can't think of many other recent titles at least...

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@ProtossRushX said:
@commander said:
@techhog89 said:

I take it that you're completely against AMD? Because the RX 480 beats everything you posted.

no not at all actually but I'm worried about power consumption, electricity is quite expensive where I live.

I know the rx 480 has a better power enveloppe than the previous amd cards but I won't find that card second handed, and a new one is a bit too expensive for me. I live in europe and the import tax is huge. I pretty much pay 1.5 times the price.

If the rx 470 would release any time soon I would defenitely consider it, but one thing is for sure, at 9 aug I'm playing this game, so I need my hardware before that.

They did a chart and found that the PS4 is more powerful than like 70% of the computers on steam.

Like I think 25% had like better than the ps4 an around 5% the same.

Lol, what?

Steam hardway survey places the number of PC's with PS4 or better performance at over 50%. That's over 90 million active steam users - or more than double the number of PS4's ever sold.

The game is pretty much guaranteed to have performance issues on the PS4 - rumors are that it was delayed because of these issues on PS4 - and probably play at 50% or less of the draw distance than on PC.

That procedural generation is likely hitting that CPU hard - and if that's the case it's likely that even the Neo won't perform as well as even an entry level gaming PC (since the CPU on the Neo appears to be a slightly OC'ed version of the one on the PS4).

Your best bet is sticking to the PC, not only for No MAn's SKy, but also for the plethora of other space games/sims on the platform now and those coming in the future.