There's a difference between "change" and "optimize." How exactly is morphing the entire genre that the franchise belongs to qualify as reasonable?

Pariah_001

maybe you forgot that fallout games havent been 'fallout' games since 2. the amount of stink kicked up now about fallout 3 is just attention seeking at this point because of the games high profile. the franchise has had as many games that werent wrpgs as it has games that are wrpgs for crying out loud. if its as easy for you to totally ignore tactics and brotherhood of steel, im sure itll be just as easy for you to close your eyes and cover your ears and nananana to yourself with fallout 3 as well.

Wanna rephrase?Vandalvideo

alright, so youre ok with a game set in a world with heavy 50's undertones having lasers, super computers, autonomous robots, hulking suits of power armor, but mutants that do something other than gibber and look ugly (and carry around laser cannons) is NOT ON? fallout, as a rule of thumb, is known to take heavy liberties when it comes to mutants anyway. ghouls are sterile, yet they live for hundreds and hundreds of years. FEV mutations and experiments, genetically engineering and creating super mutants, borders on the fantastical. i dont see how mutants shooting lasers from their hands is too much different than mutants shooting laser cannons and having biomechanical implants. also, theres people with psychic abilities in fallout 2 which came from being 'dipped' in FEV experiments, which is hardly 'grounded' and also leads to explanations of engineered mutants with 'strange powers' in fallout 3.

regardless of percieved 'stances', the brotherhood of steel are in the game, and youre totally gonna be able to rock out in power armor. did anyone really care about them for any other reason? were there any real brotherhood of steel characters that stood out and meant anything? admit it, you joined them for the sweet armor, stole their heavy weaponry, and proceeded to kill every last one of them, just like everyone else :P besides, its all explained why they are different: theyre an independant sect on the completely opposite side of the country with zero influence or aid from other brotherhood sects. there are even dissenters that have formed a more purist brotherhood regime in the game. this deepens the canon, and allows the games themes to be deeper as a consequence. youre against enriching the canon too?

the ability to kill super mutants at lvl 2 doesn't ruin the fact you get to see your enemies explode in glorious gore.

from what ive seen, the characters populating the fallout 3 world are both as real simultaneousely overblown as in the previous games. im pretty sure an enterprising american with a heavy accent who wants you to blow up a town with a nuke so he can use the irradiated land for profit, and slimy slavers wanting you to steal the constitution so they can ply their trade legally qualifies as dark humour, especially in the way theyre excecuted.

that dogmeat appeared in fallout 2 in the state he was in already defies logic. it was 80 years between fallout 1 and 2, for crying out loud. the mere presence of dogmeat in fallout 3 is a nostalgic nod to the previous games, fallout canons ONLY recurring character.

[QUOTE="mdisen2"][QUOTE="CreepyBacon"]

Good GRIEF the amount of blind fanboyisem in this thread.

What are people not understanding? Microsoft wanted golden eye on the VC AND XBL. They was happy to have it on *both*.

Nintendo reaks the profits from the VC sales, microsoft from XBLA. It's WIN/WIN. Gamers win, Nintendo wins, Microsoft wins.

How can anybody argue differently? XD Are you really that in love with Nintendo? They simply put there foot down, ruined it for YOU, me, everyone. Sticking up for them over this is silly.

sonicmj1

Likewise, only a fanboy would come to the conclusion that it's win/win.

In what way does Nintendo lose? They get money from VC sales. Even if the sales on Virtual Console aren't massive, they still get money from it. In this scenario, they get nothing.

You act as if this is some zero-sum game, when it isn't. Money Microsoft makes isn't subtracted from Nintendo's expansive coffers.

they lose because they have the inferior version. whichever way you look at it, people who have both an xbox360 and a wii sure as hell arent gonna buy the inferior version. this means nintendo loses money on the deal. its penny pinching, but its business. they all do it.

A redesigned console would be the ultimate milkage.Ragnarok1051

youmeanlikethis?

:P

http://www.mazapan.se/games/BurnTheRope.php

this one.

Why does the Dreamcast only get old school shooters? :( It's received a ton of new games in Japan over the years, but they're all shooters.BioShockOwnz

thats why they call it the SCHMUPcast