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#51  Edited By Gifford38
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@kvallyx said:
@gifford38 said:
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Xbox releases more AAA games than PS5, so that isn't it. And their scores via metacritic are the same average. TRY AGAIN!

lmao just stop. most of xbox AAA are on ps5. halo and 2 forza games are not saving xbox.

nothing like gow2,hfw2,ratchet and clank,demon souls remake and more.

on top of ps4 to ps5 games.

ps4/ps5 AAA games>>>>>>>>>>xbox one/series x games.

on top of third party exclusive AAA games.

not even close when you factor in games available to play for each console.

its always the games. how else would ps5 selling 4 to 1?

I have seen a post full of lies before, but this^ post of lies takes the cake 🎂😂 You realize that Xbox One/Xbox Series AAA games >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PS4/PS5 games right? Oh wait, PS has no games 😂

so every game that came out on ps5 since launch does not count as game.

so I guess flight sim,halo,forza, and the rest from xbox does not count either.

don't get what your saying. ps5 has zero games to play?

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@gifford38 said:

so every game that came out on ps5 since launch does not count as game.

so I guess flight sim,halo,forza, and the rest from xbox does not count either.

don't get what your saying. ps5 has zero games to play?

I am mocking you because you are spreading your opinion as fact. So I am doing the same.

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#53 ermacness
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@gifford38 said:
@lundy86_4 said:
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Stop it.

You know good and well that Kinect launched with the x1.

Stop acting brand new.

🤦‍♀️

Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but the Kinect released in 2010.

kinect came out on 360 but was pushed on xbox one at launch making it 100 bucks more than ps4.

They know this!

They wanna act like the x1 didn’t exist.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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@last_lap said:

@ermacness: You might wanna check on your gaming history.

So the Xbox One never existed?

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@ermacness said:
@last_lap said:

@ermacness: You might wanna check on your gaming history.

So the Xbox One never existed?

Someone said the Xbox One never existed? Call names.

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@Pedro said:
@gifford38 said:

lmao just stop. most of xbox AAA are on ps5. halo and 2 forza games are not saving xbox.

nothing like gow2,hfw2,ratchet and clank,demon souls remake and more.

on top of ps4 to ps5 games.

ps4/ps5 AAA games>>>>>>>>>>xbox one/series x games.

on top of third party exclusive AAA games.

not even close when you factor in games available to play for each console.

its always the games. how else would ps5 selling 4 to 1?

That is a lot of PC games.🤭

But can you play them on the xbox?

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@Pedro said:
@ermacness said:
@last_lap said:

@ermacness: You might wanna check on your gaming history.

So the Xbox One never existed?

Someone said the Xbox One never existed? Call names.

You need to learn the difference between a question and a statement.

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#58 KvallyX
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@ermacness said:
@Pedro said:

That is a lot of PC games.🤭

But can you play them on the xbox?

Microsoft Windows PC >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xbox/PS

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@Pedro said:
@gifford38 said:

lmao just stop. most of xbox AAA are on ps5. halo and 2 forza games are not saving xbox.

nothing like gow2,hfw2,ratchet and clank,demon souls remake and more.

on top of ps4 to ps5 games.

ps4/ps5 AAA games>>>>>>>>>>xbox one/series x games.

on top of third party exclusive AAA games.

not even close when you factor in games available to play for each console.

its always the games. how else would ps5 selling 4 to 1?

That is a lot of PC games.🤭

yup it is except few of them are not on pc yet. nothing wrong with that. just stating the obvious why ps5 so far ahead of xbox even if those games go to pc. why they stay on top.

games its always the games that factor the winner. look at 360 it was in the lead over ps3 because of the games 360 had that the ps3 didn't.

until the games came to ps3 then sony pulled ahead.

ps2 vs xbox because of the games.

ps1 over nin64 because of the games.

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#60 Pedro
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@ermacness said:

But can you play them on the xbox?

What does that got to do with my comment?🤭

@ermacness said:

You need to learn the difference between a question and a statement.

Maybe you should've also noted the question you were responding to.😏

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#61 Pedro
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yup it is except few of them are not on pc yet. nothing wrong with that. just stating the obvious why ps5 so far ahead of xbox even if those games go to pc. why they stay on top.

games its always the games that factor the winner. look at 360 it was in the lead over ps3 because of the games 360 had that the ps3 didn't.

until the games came to ps3 then sony pulled ahead.

ps2 vs xbox because of the games.

ps1 over nin64 because of the games.

PS5 is far ahead because of PS4. Nothing more, nothing less. Now, the Sony is experiencing a 1.5 year famine.😏

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#62 Gifford38
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@kvallyx said:
@ermacness said:
@Pedro said:

That is a lot of PC games.🤭

But can you play them on the xbox?

Microsoft Windows PC >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xbox/PS

Pc>>>>>>xbox/ps

stop adding a operating system to pc. like every pc is called micro windows pc.

do you see microsoft windows Dell on the box? or microsoft windows Tandy?

every steam game bought is not going into microsoft pocket.

pc comes with windows.

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@gifford38 said:

until the games came to ps3 then sony pulled ahead.

Xbox 360 and Wii beat the PS3.

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#64 KvallyX
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@gifford38 said:
@kvallyx said:

Microsoft Windows PC >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xbox/PS

Pc>>>>>>xbox/ps

stop adding a operating system to pc. like every pc is called micro windows pc.

do you see microsoft windows Dell on the box? or microsoft windows Tandy?

every steam game bought is not going into microsoft pocket.

pc comes with windows.

But it is Microsoft Windows PC. I can't just download and play these games on Mac PCs or Ubuntu PCs or any other OS, natively. You need Microsoft™ Windows PCs for most of the games released.

Microsoft™ Windows PC >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xbox/PS/Mac/Linux/Android/iOS

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@Pedro said:
@gifford38 said:

yup it is except few of them are not on pc yet. nothing wrong with that. just stating the obvious why ps5 so far ahead of xbox even if those games go to pc. why they stay on top.

games its always the games that factor the winner. look at 360 it was in the lead over ps3 because of the games 360 had that the ps3 didn't.

until the games came to ps3 then sony pulled ahead.

ps2 vs xbox because of the games.

ps1 over nin64 because of the games.

PS5 is far ahead because of PS4. Nothing more, nothing less. Now, the Sony is experiencing a 1.5 year famine.😏

lmao nope because if xbox launch with huge list of AAA while ps5 had nothing. xbox would sold more.

the fact is sony had such a ps5 reveal showing it hyped the shit out of the ps5.

BECAUSE OF THE GAMES IT SHOWED.

and its still releasing AAA games this year from third party exclusives.

people notice this. even if they are third party.

hit after hit that is not available on xbox or nin.

ps5 reveal had demon souls,ratchet and clank,hzd2,miles and more.

heck it was the only console that felt next gen on released.

while series x same ui and not games to play other than gears of war with raytracing.

xbox fumble on xbox one and series x launch also.

xbox one forcing the kinect.

series x had nothing to play.

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@kvallyx said:
@gifford38 said:

until the games came to ps3 then sony pulled ahead.

Xbox 360 and Wii beat the PS3.

wrong again 360 86 million ps3 87.4 million. google it

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#67  Edited By Gifford38
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@kvallyx said:
@gifford38 said:
@kvallyx said:

Microsoft Windows PC >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xbox/PS

Pc>>>>>>xbox/ps

stop adding a operating system to pc. like every pc is called micro windows pc.

do you see microsoft windows Dell on the box? or microsoft windows Tandy?

every steam game bought is not going into microsoft pocket.

pc comes with windows.

But it is Microsoft Windows PC. I can't just download and play these games on Mac PCs or Ubuntu PCs or any other OS, natively. You need Microsoft™ Windows PCs for most of the games released.

Microsoft™ Windows PC >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xbox/PS/Mac/Linux/Android/iOS

so microsoft windows is not a operating system.

again xbox or microsoft does not make money off of every game on pc.

they only make money on the pc sold. but you don't say microsoft windows pc.

do you walk in a store and say I need a pc or do you walk in and say I need a microsoft windows pc.

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#68 Saint-George
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Yip the Ps5 is selling well because of games..

Here's your Xbox studiosCOD/Ps5 Bundle,enjoy
Here's your Xbox studiosCOD/Ps5 Bundle,enjoy

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#69  Edited By KvallyX
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@gifford38 said:
@kvallyx said:

But it is Microsoft Windows PC. I can't just download and play these games on Mac PCs or Ubuntu PCs or any other OS, natively. You need Microsoft™ Windows PCs for most of the games released.

Microsoft™ Windows PC >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Xbox/PS/Mac/Linux/Android/iOS

so microsoft windows is not a operating system.

again xbox or microsoft does not make money off of every game on pc.

they only make money on the pc sold. but you don't say microsoft windows pc.

do you walk in a store and say I need a pc or do you walk in and say I need a microsoft windows pc.

Microsoft Windows PC's require Microsoft Windows OS, and most games require Microsoft Windows OS. Hence Microsoft Windows PC. You can't tell someone what they can and can't say. I don't say Linux PC. I don't say Mac PC. It's Microsoft Windows PC.

Microsoft makes money on every Microsoft Windows PC sold, make money on every Microsoft Windows OS sold, make money on every Microsoft Surface PC sold, which has Microsoft Windows OS.

Now carry on.

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@gifford38 said:
@kvallyx said:
@gifford38 said:

until the games came to ps3 then sony pulled ahead.

Xbox 360 and Wii beat the PS3.

wrong again 360 86 million ps3 87.4 million. google it

Xbox 360 sold 100.6 million. Google it. AMD confirmed it.

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As a former cow I'm really not liking Sony this gen. Lack of exclusives, arrogance in increasing prices without merit on plus and games, bet on live service, etc etc.

Add that to the fact they decided going multiplatform thus destroying their brand and this was the last time I'll ever buy a PS console. I'm going full PC and play legacy consoles for my future. No interest in the PS6 if they keep going the route thy're going

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lolol :P

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@gifford38 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@TheEroica said:
@hardwenzen said:

If they release everything on pc, zero chance.

Microsoft does it.... It's a bold pro gamer move, why wouldn't Sony? No stones?

Gamer move, but also look at how worthless the Xbox has been for almost a decade.

thats because of the games. if they released AAA games like ps5 did then xbox would not be worthless.

its always been the games. not specs, not power.

Well, firstly, this generation SOny isn't releasing anything at all. Secondly, when every title run and looks better, while also having free online and access to mods, it makes the ps5 copy beyond worthless.

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@hardwenzen said:
@gifford38 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@TheEroica said:
@hardwenzen said:

If they release everything on pc, zero chance.

Microsoft does it.... It's a bold pro gamer move, why wouldn't Sony? No stones?

Gamer move, but also look at how worthless the Xbox has been for almost a decade.

thats because of the games. if they released AAA games like ps5 did then xbox would not be worthless.

its always been the games. not specs, not power.

Well, firstly, this generation SOny isn't releasing anything at all. Secondly, when every title run and looks better, while also having free online and access to mods, it makes the ps5 copy beyond worthless.

So why prop up the corporation raking us for online fees and less than feature rich offerings? Nobody owes these companies anything and Sony stands to gain millions of potential customers that otherwise wouldn't bother with their inferior product.

They make very little off hardware.... Their sales of hardware is positioned for only one factor, ownership of marketshare over their competitors. While this is a well established business model and establishes "industry leaders" it does nothing for gamers themselves and so I won't root for it. It's a business tactic. I'm not gonna bark up sonys tree telling them what to do with marketshare, but I'm not buying a PS5. It's been a lousy generation for them and tieing myself to their pay to play online service is not something I want to be a part of.

I would however give them my money for some of their better games! I'd be happy to offset their large, crippling gaming budgets when they release a great game.

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@Pedro said:
@ermacness said:

But can you play them on the xbox?

What does that got to do with my comment?🤭

@ermacness said:

You need to learn the difference between a question and a statement.

Maybe you should've also noted the question you were responding to.😏

1. You went off topic of the conversation so I tried to bring it back to the topic with my question.

2. It was a question that I asked, not a statement that I was making. You went to school (I’m assuming) so you know the difference between a question and a statement.

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@ermacness said:
@Pedro said:
@ermacness said:

But can you play them on the xbox?

What does that got to do with my comment?🤭

@ermacness said:

You need to learn the difference between a question and a statement.

Maybe you should've also noted the question you were responding to.😏

1. You went off topic of the conversation so I tried to bring it back to the topic with my question.

2. It was a question that I asked, not a statement that I was making. You went to school (I’m assuming) so you know the difference between a question and a statement.

1. Nope!

2. Let me make this accessible for you. What is the following?<---note the funny thing at the end

"Someone said the Xbox One never existed?"

Let us see if you can tell if that is a question.🤭

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#77  Edited By BenjaminBanklin
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On top of Nintendo? Maybe not. There's only two console competitors now. Who is else there to be on top of?

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@BenjaminBanklin said:

On top of Nintendo? Maybe not. There's only two console competitors now. Who is else there to be on top of?

Nintendo and PC has no competition.

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On the current path they will be almost irrelevant within a decade.

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#80 Pedro
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@silentchief said:

On the current path they will be almost irrelevant within a decade.

Great news for gamers.

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#81 Silentchief
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@Pedro said:
@silentchief said:

On the current path they will be almost irrelevant within a decade.

Great news for gamers.

Less competition is never great news for gamers.

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#82 Pedro
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@silentchief said:

Less competition is never great news for gamers.

Less competition? Sony would not be competing for gamers's money and time?🤔

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@hardwenzen said:
@gifford38 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@TheEroica said:
@hardwenzen said:

If they release everything on pc, zero chance.

Microsoft does it.... It's a bold pro gamer move, why wouldn't Sony? No stones?

Gamer move, but also look at how worthless the Xbox has been for almost a decade.

thats because of the games. if they released AAA games like ps5 did then xbox would not be worthless.

its always been the games. not specs, not power.

Well, firstly, this generation SOny isn't releasing anything at all. Secondly, when every title run and looks better, while also having free online and access to mods, it makes the ps5 copy beyond worthless.

What sony been releasing a ton of games. one year drought and everyone forgets.

3 years hfw2,gowr,gt7,ratchet and clank,spiderman 2, miles,demon souls,astobot,returnal, and more.

psvr2 switchback2,horizon call of the mountain, with gt7 full game in vr.

only 3 years. look up ps3 and ps4 first 3 years.

on top of all the remakes and ps5 versions of ps4 games.

sony been releasing alot this gen so far.

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#84  Edited By hardwenzen
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@gifford38 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@gifford38 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@TheEroica said:

Microsoft does it.... It's a bold pro gamer move, why wouldn't Sony? No stones?

Gamer move, but also look at how worthless the Xbox has been for almost a decade.

thats because of the games. if they released AAA games like ps5 did then xbox would not be worthless.

its always been the games. not specs, not power.

Well, firstly, this generation SOny isn't releasing anything at all. Secondly, when every title run and looks better, while also having free online and access to mods, it makes the ps5 copy beyond worthless.

What sony been releasing a ton of games. one year drought and everyone forgets.

3 years hfw2,gowr,gt7,ratchet and clank,spiderman 2, miles,demon souls,astobot,returnal, and more.

psvr2 switchback2,horizon call of the mountain, with gt7 full game in vr.

only 3 years. look up ps3 and ps4 first 3 years.

on top of all the remakes and ps5 versions of ps4 games.

sony been releasing alot this gen so far.

Bunch of PS4 games. Where are the PS5 titles, the reason everyone bought the system for?

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#85  Edited By Gifford38
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@Pedro said:
@silentchief said:

On the current path they will be almost irrelevant within a decade.

Great news for gamers.

So only having one choice is great news for gamers?

only way to game is to rent them through your tv. no more gaming systems or consoles?

having zero sony games or zero xbox games or zero nin games.

that's great news?

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@Pedro said:
@silentchief said:

Less competition is never great news for gamers.

Less competition? Sony would not be competing for gamers's money and time?🤔

So making money to create more games for the gamers is bad now?

you need to make money to make these games. so competing for gamers money = more games. we should fold all developers and make one developer.

look at sega what happen when the gamers stopped supporting them.

we got crappy mid 7 games.

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#87  Edited By Gifford38
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@hardwenzen said:
@gifford38 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@gifford38 said:

thats because of the games. if they released AAA games like ps5 did then xbox would not be worthless.

its always been the games. not specs, not power.

Well, firstly, this generation SOny isn't releasing anything at all. Secondly, when every title run and looks better, while also having free online and access to mods, it makes the ps5 copy beyond worthless.

What sony been releasing a ton of games. one year drought and everyone forgets.

3 years hfw2,gowr,gt7,ratchet and clank,spiderman 2, miles,demon souls,astobot,returnal, and more.

psvr2 switchback2,horizon call of the mountain, with gt7 full game in vr.

only 3 years. look up ps3 and ps4 first 3 years.

on top of all the remakes and ps5 versions of ps4 games.

sony been releasing alot this gen so far.

Bunch of PS4 games. Where are the PS5 titles, the reason everyone bought the system for?

so cross gen games don't count then? funny how best animations and graphics this gen come from a last gen machine.

top of all that your favorite game looks like a ps3 game. thats next gen only.

why update a pc if its just going to be playing the same games then.

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@ermacness said:
@last_lap said:

@ermacness: You might wanna check on your gaming history.

So the Xbox One never existed?

The Kinect launched on the 360. That's a fact. The Kinect XB1 version didn't kill the XB1, it didn't help but the online checks, killing off selling/lending physical games Mattrick is what doomed the XB1.

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@gifford38 said:
@Pedro said:
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On the current path they will be almost irrelevant within a decade.

Great news for gamers.

So only having one choice is great news for gamers?

only way to game is to rent them through your tv. no more gaming systems or consoles?

having zero sony games or zero xbox games or zero nin games.

that's great news?

What are you talking about?

You buy a console to play games. The games being available on other platforms is not harmful to gamers and it doesn't remove competition because games compete with games.

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Less competition is never great news for gamers.

Less competition? Sony would not be competing for gamers's money and time?🤔

So making money to create more games for the gamers is bad now?

you need to make money to make these games. so competing for gamers money = more games. we should fold all developers and make one developer.

look at sega what happen when the gamers stopped supporting them.

we got crappy mid 7 games.

Again, what are you talking about? When Sony releases their games on other platforms, they do it for free?🙄

Make sense. At least once.

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#90  Edited By hardwenzen
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@gifford38 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@gifford38 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@gifford38 said:

thats because of the games. if they released AAA games like ps5 did then xbox would not be worthless.

its always been the games. not specs, not power.

Well, firstly, this generation SOny isn't releasing anything at all. Secondly, when every title run and looks better, while also having free online and access to mods, it makes the ps5 copy beyond worthless.

What sony been releasing a ton of games. one year drought and everyone forgets.

3 years hfw2,gowr,gt7,ratchet and clank,spiderman 2, miles,demon souls,astobot,returnal, and more.

psvr2 switchback2,horizon call of the mountain, with gt7 full game in vr.

only 3 years. look up ps3 and ps4 first 3 years.

on top of all the remakes and ps5 versions of ps4 games.

sony been releasing alot this gen so far.

Bunch of PS4 games. Where are the PS5 titles, the reason everyone bought the system for?

so cross gen games don't count then? funny how best animations and graphics this gen come from a last gen machine.

top of all that your favorite game looks like a ps3 game. thats next gen only.

why update a pc if its just going to be playing the same games then.

Cross gen games began development years before the PS5 was even released, so no, they don't count.

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#91  Edited By Silentchief
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@Pedro
@gifford38 said:
@Pedro said:
@silentchief said:

Less competition is never great news for gamers.

Less competition? Sony would not be competing for gamers's money and time?🤔

So making money to create more games for the gamers is bad now?

you need to make money to make these games. so competing for gamers money = more games. we should fold all developers and make one developer.

look at sega what happen when the gamers stopped supporting them.

we got crappy mid 7 games.

Again, what are you talking about? When Sony releases their games on other platforms, they do it for free?🙄

Make sense. At least once.

I think he's referring to the massive drop in quality from games created by Sega when they were a platform holder. Sega was among the best publishers in the industry at the time only rivaled by Nintendo and Capcom. When they went third party there was a massive drop off. I would expect Sony to have a similar fall off if they abandon their platform.

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@silentchief said:

I think he's referring to the massive drop in quality from games created by Sega when they were a platform holder. Sega was among the best publishers in the industry at the time only rivaled by Nintendo and Capcom. When they went third party there was a massive drop off. I would expect Sony to have a similar fall off if they abandon their platform.

This may sound weird but the drop in quality can be related to finances.🤷🏽‍♂️

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@hardwenzen said:
@gifford38 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@gifford38 said:
@hardwenzen said:

Well, firstly, this generation SOny isn't releasing anything at all. Secondly, when every title run and looks better, while also having free online and access to mods, it makes the ps5 copy beyond worthless.

What sony been releasing a ton of games. one year drought and everyone forgets.

3 years hfw2,gowr,gt7,ratchet and clank,spiderman 2, miles,demon souls,astobot,returnal, and more.

psvr2 switchback2,horizon call of the mountain, with gt7 full game in vr.

only 3 years. look up ps3 and ps4 first 3 years.

on top of all the remakes and ps5 versions of ps4 games.

sony been releasing alot this gen so far.

Bunch of PS4 games. Where are the PS5 titles, the reason everyone bought the system for?

so cross gen games don't count then? funny how best animations and graphics this gen come from a last gen machine.

top of all that your favorite game looks like a ps3 game. thats next gen only.

why update a pc if its just going to be playing the same games then.

Cross gen games began development years before the PS5 was even released, so no, they don't count.

the ps5 was in development way before it came out. so ps5 does not count either.

um you do know they had ps5 dev kits

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@gifford38 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@gifford38 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@gifford38 said:

What sony been releasing a ton of games. one year drought and everyone forgets.

3 years hfw2,gowr,gt7,ratchet and clank,spiderman 2, miles,demon souls,astobot,returnal, and more.

psvr2 switchback2,horizon call of the mountain, with gt7 full game in vr.

only 3 years. look up ps3 and ps4 first 3 years.

on top of all the remakes and ps5 versions of ps4 games.

sony been releasing alot this gen so far.

Bunch of PS4 games. Where are the PS5 titles, the reason everyone bought the system for?

so cross gen games don't count then? funny how best animations and graphics this gen come from a last gen machine.

top of all that your favorite game looks like a ps3 game. thats next gen only.

why update a pc if its just going to be playing the same games then.

Cross gen games began development years before the PS5 was even released, so no, they don't count.

the ps5 was in development way before it came out. so ps5 does not count either.

um you do know they had ps5 dev kits

They don't have dev kits for 4+ years. You release a new system to release titles that weren't possible on the previous generation. Where are those games?

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@Pedro said:
@silentchief said:

I think he's referring to the massive drop in quality from games created by Sega when they were a platform holder. Sega was among the best publishers in the industry at the time only rivaled by Nintendo and Capcom. When they went third party there was a massive drop off. I would expect Sony to have a similar fall off if they abandon their platform.

This may sound weird but the drop in quality can be related to finances.🤷🏽‍♂️

Well if sony goes full third party and stops making playstation im sure its because of finances.

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With the switch 2 on the horizon it will be difficult to stop.

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@hardwenzen said:
@gifford38 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@gifford38 said:
@hardwenzen said:

Bunch of PS4 games. Where are the PS5 titles, the reason everyone bought the system for?

so cross gen games don't count then? funny how best animations and graphics this gen come from a last gen machine.

top of all that your favorite game looks like a ps3 game. thats next gen only.

why update a pc if its just going to be playing the same games then.

Cross gen games began development years before the PS5 was even released, so no, they don't count.

the ps5 was in development way before it came out. so ps5 does not count either.

um you do know they had ps5 dev kits

They don't have dev kits for 4+ years. You release a new system to release titles that weren't possible on the previous generation. Where are those games?

Guerilla games had there dev kits first. they knew it was going to be on ps5. why it looked so good. then insomniac why the had miles ready for launch and ratchet and clank.

if they release at the sametime on both ps4 and ps5 it counts.

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#98 hardwenzen
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@gifford38 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@gifford38 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@gifford38 said:

so cross gen games don't count then? funny how best animations and graphics this gen come from a last gen machine.

top of all that your favorite game looks like a ps3 game. thats next gen only.

why update a pc if its just going to be playing the same games then.

Cross gen games began development years before the PS5 was even released, so no, they don't count.

the ps5 was in development way before it came out. so ps5 does not count either.

um you do know they had ps5 dev kits

They don't have dev kits for 4+ years. You release a new system to release titles that weren't possible on the previous generation. Where are those games?

Guerilla games had there dev kits first. they knew it was going to be on ps5. why it looked so good. then insomniac why the had miles ready for launch and ratchet and clank.

if they release at the sametime on both ps4 and ps5 it counts.

It doesn't mean anything. Who had em first or last doesn't matter. We're in the 9th gen, and they release ps4 games. Not just that, but we're in the late stages of the ps5, as Sony themselves have stated. Late stages, but there's nothing but ps4 titles. How pathetic is that?

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@hardwenzen said:
@gifford38 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@gifford38 said:
@hardwenzen said:

Cross gen games began development years before the PS5 was even released, so no, they don't count.

the ps5 was in development way before it came out. so ps5 does not count either.

um you do know they had ps5 dev kits

They don't have dev kits for 4+ years. You release a new system to release titles that weren't possible on the previous generation. Where are those games?

Guerilla games had there dev kits first. they knew it was going to be on ps5. why it looked so good. then insomniac why the had miles ready for launch and ratchet and clank.

if they release at the sametime on both ps4 and ps5 it counts.

It doesn't mean anything. Who had em first or last doesn't matter. We're in the 9th gen, and they release ps4 games. Not just that, but we're in the late stages of the ps5, as Sony themselves have stated. Late stages, but there's nothing but ps4 titles. How pathetic is that?

spiderman 2 and since when 3 year in is later stages? ps5 pro not even out yet.

slow down ps6 is not coming for another 4 years. gen are 7 years at least.

at least sony has retunal,demon souls, spiderman2,horizon call of the mountain,switchback2,gt7

third party exclusives like 2 final fantasy, steller,ronin.

not bad for only 3 years on top of the cross gen games.

gamers act like ps5 and xbox been out for 6 years.

look at ps3 and ps4 first 3 years.

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#100 hardwenzen
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@gifford38 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@gifford38 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@gifford38 said:

the ps5 was in development way before it came out. so ps5 does not count either.

um you do know they had ps5 dev kits

They don't have dev kits for 4+ years. You release a new system to release titles that weren't possible on the previous generation. Where are those games?

Guerilla games had there dev kits first. they knew it was going to be on ps5. why it looked so good. then insomniac why the had miles ready for launch and ratchet and clank.

if they release at the sametime on both ps4 and ps5 it counts.

It doesn't mean anything. Who had em first or last doesn't matter. We're in the 9th gen, and they release ps4 games. Not just that, but we're in the late stages of the ps5, as Sony themselves have stated. Late stages, but there's nothing but ps4 titles. How pathetic is that?

spiderman 2 and since when 3 year in is later stages? ps5 pro not even out yet.

slow down ps6 is not coming for another 4 years. gen are 7 years at least.

at least sony has retunal,demon souls, spiderman2,horizon call of the mountain,switchback2,gt7

third party exclusives like 2 final fantasy, steller,ronin.

not bad for only 3 years on top of the cross gen games.

gamers act like ps5 and xbox been out for 6 years.

look at ps3 and ps4 first 3 years.

SPiderman2 is just Spiderman MM. Returnal is an indie game. Demon's Souls yes, one of the very few games. Horizon call of the mountain is garbage, gt7 might as well be on a ps4. Third party is third party, no need to mention those because the system has no first party. This is not the Xbox with its low standards.