Gamespot:Xbox Live: No Longer the Gold Standard

Ok people lets break this down money wise:

Xbox Live: $59.99 + Game: Halo 4: $60.00 = $119.99 to access full game (Multiplayer, Co-op and Spartan Ops)

Netflix on Xbox Live: $96.00 per year + Xbox Live fee: $59.99 per year = $155.99 to use Netflix on Xbox 360.

Internet explorer, Facebook, Twitter, Youtube = $59.99 per year to access

PSN: $49.99 per year (Free online, free access to all social media and Netflix)

PSN+ = discount games and free games every month = $49.99 per year to play full free games (no charge for online)

PSN = Save Money

Xbox Live = Money hole

dream431ca

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]i'm sure the xbox fans will continue paying because MS says they shouldZen_Light

Except most services are accessible through an Xbox Silver account. The P2P gaming isn't. Netflix isn't. What should be free you pay for and actual services provided by MS is free. An odd, but genius cycle of moving the cost to consumer.whiskeystrike

Well it's a catch 22.

Microsoft can provide free services on Silver because of money made through Live, but if they were to put all the services onto Gold, and only the online on Silver, then they couldn't afford to have the services at all.

But we live in a world where multimedia is king, so there is no real business sense in Microsoft/Sony reverting back to having just barebones online.

Both need to recuperate their billion dollar a year investment which is why both have subscription models in place.

tl;dr edition?campzor

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

Services that utilize your router

whiskeystrike

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]

[QUOTE="Arbiterisl33t69"] You act as if anyone using party chat is some socially awkward nerd. Do you realize not everyone can come over all the time? That's what party chat is for. I party chat with people I know IRL. Not everyone lives close to each other. "Invite women and friends and have a goooood time" Wtf are you talking about here, lol. You HAVE to make little get-togethers to play fvcking video games? What would the women do? This ain't a commercial, IRL most wouldn't be very entertained, and the closest I've done a "video game party" which sounds awfully lame was a drinking game with Mario Party. RealGamrPSWii60

The only surprising thing about this article is that it took so long to be posted on a main stream site. Actually, considering that ad revenue is how these sites survive, I'm surprised it was written at all.

It's been like this for years.

and People are just NOW noticing this?
Xbox Live is a Toll booth to YOUR Internet!

You don't have to pay for anything else that connects to the internet. Only Xbox Live.

People thought it was a Great to have Xbox Live it was a "Premium Service" That is until the Competition showed that it has the same thing, only Free.

The Connection between Call of Duty on the Xbox 360 is no different from the Connection of Call of Duty on your Wii, PC, PS3, or WiiU. It's going to be the Same Connection. There are no Dedicated Servers, It's all P2P. If person has a terrible connection then everyone has a bad time.

The only perk for Xbox Live is the ability to Talk to people in a Party regardless of what game they're playing.

Curious as to the origins of this article. Are you free to write what you wish and just have to sift through an approval process or are you assigned topics?whiskeystrike

I told my boss and colleagues during our weekly meeting what I would like to write an editorial about how I feel Xbox Gold is now obsolete, and they agreed it would be interesting. That's how all of my content (except for reviews) surface.

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]Curious as to the origins of this article. Are you free to write what you wish and just have to sift through an approval process or are you assigned topics?TomMcShea

I told my boss and colleagues during our weekly meeting what I would like to write an editorial about how I feel Xbox Gold is now obsolete, and they agreed it would be interesting. That's how all of my content (except for reviews) surface.

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"][QUOTE="blackace"] Like your ISP? Is that a service too. Everybody pays. Everybody pays. blackace

[QUOTE="campzor"]tl;dr edition?BPoole96

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]Curious as to the origins of this article. Are you free to write what you wish and just have to sift through an approval process or are you assigned topics?TomMcShea

I told my boss and colleagues during our weekly meeting what I would like to write an editorial about how I feel Xbox Gold is now obsolete, and they agreed it would be interesting. That's how all of my content (except for reviews) surface.

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]Curious as to the origins of this article. Are you free to write what you wish and just have to sift through an approval process or are you assigned topics?TomMcShea

I told my boss and colleagues during our weekly meeting what I would like to write an editorial about how I feel Xbox Gold is now obsolete, and they agreed it would be interesting. That's how all of my content (except for reviews) surface.

Good article. It amazes me how people can still defend Microsoft from essentially taking their money when alternative equivalents are free.

I agree with pretty much everything he said (heck, I wrote something similar back when I was freelancing)

The only reason I pay for Live is because my friends have 360s and Live. It's a catch-22 but whatever, my friends and I (well, many of them) are slowly migrating to PC gaming anyway so this may well be the last year I bother paying for Live.

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]Curious as to the origins of this article. Are you free to write what you wish and just have to sift through an approval process or are you assigned topics?TomMcShea

I told my boss and colleagues during our weekly meeting what I would like to write an editorial about how I feel Xbox Gold is now obsolete, and they agreed it would be interesting. That's how all of my content (except for reviews) surface.

Can you tell your boss if you can stop using review scores? You do suck using them like (Skyward Sword, Tenorman's Revenge, and Infamous 2 are good examples).

[QUOTE="TomMcShea"]

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]Curious as to the origins of this article. Are you free to write what you wish and just have to sift through an approval process or are you assigned topics?sonic1564

I told my boss and colleagues during our weekly meeting what I would like to write an editorial about how I feel Xbox Gold is now obsolete, and they agreed it would be interesting. That's how all of my content (except for reviews) surface.

Can you tell your boss if you can stop using review scores? You do suck using them like (Skyward Sword, Tenorman's Revenge, and Infamous 2 are good examples).

are you asking to get banned? lol

[QUOTE="TomMcShea"]

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]Curious as to the origins of this article. Are you free to write what you wish and just have to sift through an approval process or are you assigned topics?sonic1564

I told my boss and colleagues during our weekly meeting what I would like to write an editorial about how I feel Xbox Gold is now obsolete, and they agreed it would be interesting. That's how all of my content (except for reviews) surface.

Can you tell your boss if you can stop using review scores? You do suck using them like (Skyward Sword, Tenorman's Revenge, and Infamous 2 are good examples).

are you asking to get banned? lol

Gue1

I can get banned for using first amendment rights and telling a journalist how to improve their reviews? He's just bashing the Xbox 360 because the calves hate him. He is still a lemming.

now type it again in english

ultraking

I told Lem McShea to stup using review scores in his reviews.

[QUOTE="ultraking"]

now type it again in english

sonic1564

I told Lem McShea to stup using review scores in his reviews.

SonySpot confirmed

Badass. You shall be heralded as a martyr by the Lemming Kingdom.DrTrafalgarLaw

Don't worry, you calves ate up his fakeboy article good. You'll be calling him God McPerfect in no time.

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]

Badass. You shall be heralded as a martyr by the Lemming Kingdom.sonic1564

Don't worry, you calves ate up his fakeboy article good. You'll be calling him God McPerfect in no time.

McShea is spot on about this. XBL should be free.

You think stating the obvious about XBLG is enough for McShea to redeem himself? Never.DrTrafalgarLaw

Yes, you Sony puppets really ate it up good. Now you all think the service that steals your identity is better than the one that doesn't and are using a fakeboy article by a lemming as ownage. You calves and straw grasping. When will you admit that Xbox Live is the best console online service ever.

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]

You think stating the obvious about XBLG is enough for McShea to redeem himself? Never.sonic1564

Yes, you Sony puppets really ate it up good. Now you all think the service that steals your identity is better than the one that doesn't and are using a fakeboy article by a lemming as ownage. You calves and straw grasping. When will you admit that Xbox Live is the best console online service ever.

[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]

You think stating the obvious about XBLG is enough for McShea to redeem himself? Never.sonic1564

Yes, you Sony puppets really ate it up good. Now you all think the service that steals your identity is better than the one that doesn't and are using a fakeboy article by a lemming as ownage. You calves and straw grasping. When will you admit that Xbox Live is the best console online service ever.

[QUOTE="Slashkice"]

As an online gaming service it's been outdone by Steam and as a paid gaming service it's been outclassed by PS+. Even the Wii U has started to compete now that Nintendo has discovered the internet.

So Tom's right. But Microsoft will keep on charging as long as people keep on paying, which they will because it's the only way to play their 360 games online.

blackace

Ya it sux, im not sure why they still make us pay. Im not sure how the ps3's online fairs but coming from someone who mainly plays on pc your getting ripped off pretty hard and at the same time not paying them means im not going to be playing with my friends who for some reason all flock to the 360. But I am trying to convert them :) cuz i dont want to pay anymore lol.murat8

MAG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoUj3Jc40AQ

[QUOTE="TomMcShea"]

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]Curious as to the origins of this article. Are you free to write what you wish and just have to sift through an approval process or are you assigned topics?sonic1564

I told my boss and colleagues during our weekly meeting what I would like to write an editorial about how I feel Xbox Gold is now obsolete, and they agreed it would be interesting. That's how all of my content (except for reviews) surface.

Can you tell your boss if you can stop using review scores? You do suck using them like (Skyward Sword, Tenorman's Revenge, and Infamous 2 are good examples).

Paying for XBL is lame. They should stop.

iv pretty much felt this way once psn really starting getting on the same level. thats why I stoped doing live.

Why is this even news? I thought everyone knew that Live is a rip-off....oh wait! lemmings don't :Pabuabed

Isn't Xbox live on Windows 8 free?

Isn't Xbox live on Windows 8 free?

NoodleFighter

I agree with this article, MS should have kept free playing online and gamers would pay for any extra features/services offered on XBL..

I honestly think services like PSN+ & Steam are better compared to XBL..

So long as there are morons willing to schill out for it, MS sees no reason to do away with their nickle and diming tactics.

Like Chutebox, it is the reason I do not lament no longer having one.

I totally agree with that guy.

Microsoft should provide a better strategy in their practice. They should definitely offer Xbox Live for free, so people can play online for no charge. If people want more, they could sign up for a premium service similar to PS Plus.

This is what Microsoft should do in next-gen.

I totally agree with that guy.

Microsoft should provide a better strategy in their practice. They should definitely offer Xbox Live for free, so people can play online for no charge. If people want more, they could sign up for a premium service similar to PS Plus.

This is what Microsoft should do in next-gen.

GamerwillzPS