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#1 NoodleFighter
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Sony must be really desperate to pad PS+ numbers with PC

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#2  Edited By NoodleFighter
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@hardwenzen: I had to downsize the resolution of some screenshots to meet file size limit. Also on an 8.8" screen these resolutions are perfectly fine. Anything above 1080p is overkill. I tried using 1600p a couple of times in games just to see how it would look and the difference between it and 1200p was very hard to see and not worth the performance drops. You are also forgetting all the upscaling tech that is available on PC. For example with Days Gone I used Radeon Super Resolution to scale the game from 800p to 1600p and it looks way better than native 800p would without any noticeable performance costs. My Legion Go is definitely playing some of these games at settings better than the PS4.

Digital Foundry has a video on handhelds like mine running current gen AAA games like Horizon Forbidden West and A Plague Tale Requiem.

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@Black96Z said:

Love my Ally...but I am not getting excited for it. Lot of what I seen on the internet it will be just a refresh of the current model. Hopefully I'm wrong.

The upcoming mobile AMD strix point could at the very least give new Ally a big improvement in battery life similar to the Steam Deck OLED and its LCD counterpart.

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#4  Edited By NoodleFighter
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@hardwenzen said:

Still gonna run games at medium low setting in low resolution and only get 60fps on non demanding titles. Mobile gaming has potential, but just like with VR, we are far from it being viable.

screenshots taken from my Legion go which has the same chipset as the ROG Ally. All the games here are at least high settings.

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#5  Edited By NoodleFighter
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Huxley, it seemed like it was aiming to do what Destiny series did. World Of Darkness looked like it could have been a neat MMO. Project Legion could have been a decent Planetside competitor. Peria Chronicles was done dirty by Nexon. That game could have had PalWord's success. Dragon Hound looked the most interesting out of the monster hunter inspired genre. Ein Epicus Incognitus looked like a nice game that never was. I hate NCsoft staff member that was in charge of Project Hon that embezzling his greed got the game cancelled.

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@ghostofgolden said:
@TheEroica said:
@Willy105 said:

Understandable. PC is where it's at, the PS5 cant even convince PS4 owners that it's worth purchasing.

I am a ps4 owner.... They've not made a compelling ps5 in my opinion.

I think it’s time to entertain the idea that this newer generation of gamers might lean heavily PC. I spoke about this back during Christmas time. I have a 9 year old who exclusively plays on PC as do all his friends. My 8 year old nephew too. I think the popularity of Twitch and YouTube gaming have something to do with this as well. We might be in the early stages of a shift where consoles are for boomers. (Millennials actually but you know what I mean) The financial/business analysts are starting to take notice as well. Then go look at your local Best Buy stores. The console gaming sections have shrunk while the gaming PC and accessory aisles have exploded.

A lot of games that kids like such as FNAF, Roblox and Minecraft had their start on PC and were very popular before making it over to consoles. While not necessarily a game something kids love nowadays is Skibidi Toilet which is heavily based on Garry's Mod and SFM animation community animations and humor. I would see kids playing Fortnite and Minecraft on public library PCs. Most games and genres that are groundbreaking and started trends originated on PC for the past decade. We are also seeing PC gaming move into the handheld space. Every Best Buy I have been to has the ROG Ally on display.

@hardwenzen said:

The reason why pc gaming is growing so quickly is the social media, especially the streamers. Literally all of them are using high end pc's, and they are always trolling and meme'ing consoles. You have a 10y old that joins a stream on twitch, and sees this on daily basis, you can bet your ass his undeveloped brain would want what is being suggested to him on his screen. You remove all the streamers/content creators, and pc would be more irrelevant than it was in early 2000's.

And how relevant would consoles and their games be if you took away the multi million dollar mass marketing campaigns with the billboards, public transit ads, tv commercials/super bowl ads, food promotions, "free" copies to reviewers and whatever else they paid out of pocket to have it get promoted?

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@osan0: Eh different strokes for different folks. Mobile gaming is huge but a lot of people want to play traditional home console and PC games on portable devices which are the types of games phones and tablets natively lack and especially lack the processing power for.

Also you are paying for portability with these devices. I can't slide a gaming desktop into my backpack and pull it out to play some Doom Eternal on the plane or train or in a waiting room. If power was all that mattered in PC gaming there wouldn't be so many laptop gamers on our platform and they wouldn't be selling so much.

The ROG Ally for example compared to gaming laptops of the same price is pretty good value when it comes to performance with it only being outpaced in games that only support DLSS and not FSR on it compared to competition using RTX and the screen on it is better in colors compared to laptops of the same price. Not to mention the ROG Ally Z1 Extreme goes on sale frequently for as low as $600. The Z1 Model is actually a good alternative to the Steam Deck with its often on sale price being $400 now. The Lenovo Legion Go has recently gone as low as $629 brand new for it.

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@judaspete: The battery life of the Steam Deck OLED is unbelievable for the types of graphics and performance you can get out of it. The Switch already can't fit in pockets so I would gladly have a handheld that is a little thicker if it means much better performance. The difference between the Switch and the Steam Deck in graphics and performance is night and day in 3D titles that push the hardware. Some games on the Switch are unplayable or borderline unplayable even in docked mode despite looking like hot garbage on them already.

I also figure a shorter battery life would give Nintendo the excuse to sell their own power banks and 3rd parties licensed by them. Obviously I don't want the new Switch to last 1 and half hours at best but who is seriously going to be playing a game for 6-8 hours straight with no access to electricity outside of some small minority of people that travel by plane regularly and get stuck with the seat with broken power outlets every time? Nowadays most people have portable power banks even if they have phones with long last battery life because people can make the mistake of forgetting to charge their phone or the outlet in their bedroom being to far away from their bed and they still want to use their phone.

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Digital Foundry released a video today comparing the current top of the line PC handhelds to each other and even the Steam Deck and PS5! They used current gen only games or games where the PC version is much ahead of the previous console generations versions in lower settings such as Cyberpunk 2077 and Horizon Forbidden West.

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I am really impressed with how the current PC handhelds are slightly better than Xbox Series S in graphical settings for some games and can run games at PS5 performance mode graphics level but with lower resolution and half the framerate. The performance gap is even smaller when using PS5 quality mode and equivalent on PC handhelds.

A Plague Tale Requiem and Horizon Forbidden West look great on them.

I am disappointed they didn't cover frame generation tech though just to show people what to expect from FSR 3.0, AMD Fluid Motion Frames and Lossless Scaling Frame generation technologies even if they game wasn't running at 60fps. Me and other PC handheld users have gotten good results despite not playing at the recommended base 60 fps recommended for it by AMD.

Also in other news recent rumors are pointing to the Nintendo Switch being weaker than the Steam Deck which is disappointing. I thought it would be at least on par. Hopefully it is only slightly weaker.

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#10 NoodleFighter
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Seems fair, I would rate Eve an 8 out of 10 too ;)