Stellar Blade's character looks causing controversy! Which do you prefer?

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Poll Stellar Blade's character looks causing controversy! Which do you prefer? (70 votes)

Good looking 24%
Average 1%
Sexy 26%
Realistic 3%
Overystylized/Exaggerated 14%
Ugly 0%
Give me variety! 11%
Dont Care 20%

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The controversy around Stellar Blade’s protagonist Eve

It was a pretty standard demo gameplay release, however, the game became the center of controversies after many objected to the protagonist’s body design. They were of the opinion that Eve’s character was designed in a very s*xualized way.

Even though a few fans have appreciated the developers for Eve’s beautiful character design, especially her hair, others felt that her body was designed in an unrealistic manner, which resembles a s*x doll.

Previously, Stellar Blade director Hyung-Tae Kim stated that he isinspired by games such as NIER. Since games like NIER: Automata are known to have stylized and s*xualized female protagonists, many felt that Kim has taken some inspiration from this as well.

“S*x sells; everything doesn’t have to be political ffs”: Stellar Blade Fans Support Hyung-Tae Kim as Eve Controversy Continues

Things became complicated even more when, in a recent interview withGamesRadar, Stellar Blade director Hyung-Tae Kim stated that they have put “special attention” into the design of the back of that game’s playable character, Eve.

Stellar Blade Director makes a request to fans

As the game has garnered the attention of fans due to its controversies, Hyung-Tae Kim recently came out to speak about the controversies surrounding Eve’s character design.

During an interview, Kim was asked whether he was aware that some Western media outlets criticized the portrayal of Eve in Stellar Blade.

To that, he added,

I know that in the West, game characters have to be realistic in many ways and that there are numerous issues involved, such as gender, race, diversity, etc

He also went on to justify Eve’s character design by adding that the game is only an entertainment and cultural work and people should take it that way. Kim also made a sincere request to fans amid all the controversies surrounding Eve by saying,

I hope people will look at it as just another fun action game that has been released

Kim also added during the interview that since several games focus on typical male action scenes, he wanted Stellar Blade to have a different feel, and, therefore introduced Eve as an attractive female as the main character in the game.

PS5 exclusive Stellar Blade has been getting a lot of attention for its main character's looks, which go back to a time when a lot of video game characters were oversylized and exaggerated for the purpose of attention. In recent years, especially in the Western space, a lot of characters have been designed with a more realistic look. What do you think about today's character designs, SW? And which do you prefer?

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@Pedro said:

@luxuryheart said:

Beyonce is also super popular, and so is Rihanna. Both of them are attractive, and women love them. Euphoria is a popular show as well, and the main audience is women. The games that I play, where I've been spamming attractive women from those games, were made by Liberal devs and have a Liberal audience. There's a weird stereotype going around that Liberals dislike sex and porn, and that were prudes. Far from it!

Ironically, in the games I play, the biggest prudes are the more conservative men. Though they're hypocritical with it. They don't like the pansexual man being shirtless and having a skin that emphasizes his butt and thighs. When a woman has a skimpy skin, then they don't care. They'll buy the skin and talk about how hot she is. A pansexual man gets a skimpy skin, and they talk about how the game isn't a porn game. It's actually bizarre.

A lot of them also hate the idea of a hot elf woman being a lesbian, so they keep trying to ship her with other men. Now, these same men will get annoyed when people headcanon a guy as gay/bi. "Stop changing people's sexuality!" until it's a hot lesbian. Then that hot lesbian is bi because, and a guy actually said this disgusting shit, "her ass is too good to only belong to women."

These folks are out of touch. They live in an alternate reality. Facts don't matter. Western devs only create ugly women. Liberals want only ugly women. Western developers are waging war against white men. And Western Liberal Imperialism is on a crusade. None of it is true but you really can't reason with folks who sub to such nonsense.

Now, what I genuinely don't get is why female artist are so heavily sexualize despite the fact that their main audience are women, followed by gay men, then straight men. The females make up the absolute majority. Is it a "That boots look cute on her, I want it" kind of deal?

It's the same reason that Rihanna is popular, or Batman for guys. A lot of it is that when the skins are fashionable, the girls will always love them. Fashion is important for the girls and gays. Another thing is self-projection. It's why Batman from the cartoons is such a beloved character, especially for the memelords. Batman was attractive, masculine, charismatic, wealthy, etc. Guys can easily self-project onto Batman. It's the same for Goku as well. Goku had a lot of dudes attempting to go Super Saiyan, and the reason is that they fantasized about being as powerful as Goku. It's the same for girls and gays. No matter what, everyone has a fantasy.

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#102 LuxuryHeart
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@mrbojangles25 said:

I honestly don't care at this point.

I'm convinced developers just need to make the characters they want and let the folks decide. If there is any controversy, just don't acknowledge it. The only way to win is to not play lol.

Tbh, the woman that made this a thing just should not have talked about it. No one actually gave AF about this game, until she talked about it. "All press is good press", which means that this game got an audience fostered by her negativity. It likely would've been a forgotten about flop, had she not have talked about it.

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#103  Edited By SargentD
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@sargentd said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@sargentd said:

This is how I imagine 98% of Resetera users.

Lol!!

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@sargentd said:
@sargentd said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@sargentd said:

This is how I imagine 98% of Resetera users.

Lol!!

This wreaks of someone heavily bullied at school trying to feel powerful on a message board.

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#105  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@mrbojangles25 said:

I honestly don't care at this point.

I'm convinced developers just need to make the characters they want and let the folks decide. If there is any controversy, just don't acknowledge it. The only way to win is to not play lol.

Honestly think as ever context is king. If this is a game for adults or if it's a game designed for kids, realism, stylized, yada yada, gotta take all that stuff into account.

Completely disagree with people who say "it doesn't matter" though, it's a visual medium. If didn't care about what I was looking at, play tabletop stuff. And even then those tend not to skimp on visual effort.

Like animation, Dragonball Super looks like shit in the early episodes, after a concentrated effort the latter half of the show dramatically improved and thus became more enjoyable because of it. Even if the writing was garbo.

Also this looks dope, price wise, not so much.

Edit -

So having a looking this is for 18 year olds and over. As in grown adults with adult minds.

Why are we discussing this?

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Completely disagree with people who say "it doesn't matter" though, it's a visual medium.

Yeah, of course it matters somewhat. Everyone has preferences. It's just that the game being fun is a million times more important, making how the character looks silly to care about in comparison. Then we have people who really, really care about how characters look, and that's just annoying. I simply don't care that a game like Stellar Blade went with sexy jiggly female. I only care in that I do not mind, I like jiggly females. Would they have gone with something ugly, I wouldn't mind either. Wario is fun. Returnal grandma looks all right. I don't think I'd enjoy Returnal any more or less with a sexy supermodel protag, aka "I don't care".

I've been looking at that RE boardgame too, I want it. No idea how you play it, but it looks cool. Think I'll download it for Tabletop Simulator on Steam and try it out.

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@luxuryheart said:

So much for all of the bolded. In a game that I play, most people consider these champions to be the hottest:

Now granted, the purple elf girl is number 6 for best looking in my opinion, and the woman with the white hair isn't ugly. I just don't find them to be the best looking, or even top 5.

People find Lady Dimistrecu to be hot, and respectfully...

No... And I get the appeal, but no.

To me, Dimitrescu is hot, while the other two above are abominations.

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@Pedro said:
@Jag85 said:
@Pedro said:

Female kpop singers don't have the body that this chick has.

1.The chick's body is literally based on a real-life Korean model:

Stellar Blade's Protagonist's Body Is Based on This Real-World Korean Model

A ton of western girls idolize the men, the not the women.

2.Millions of Western Gen Z girls idolize female K-pop singers and K-drama actresses, and are trying to imitate Korean female beauty standards.

K-beauty: The rise of Korean make-up in the West

Taylor Swift is the biggest female artist in the west with a majority female audience.

3.Taylor's female fanbase is a bit older (mostly Millennial) than K-pop's female fanbase (mostly Gen Z).

Taylor Swift avid fan demographics, according to a Morning Consult poll

Western liberal imperialism?

4.It can variously refer to liberal colonialism, liberal racism, colonial feminism, white saviour syndrome, liberal interventionism, liberal warmongering, etc.

1. So you went from her being like the typical Kpop star (which she is FACTUALLY not) to an enhanced Korean model.😂 "Eve looks like a typical K-pop singer."🤭

2. Did you read your link? It is focused on MAKE UP.😂 Not a single female Kpop was mentioned. But the most popular Kpop boy band was mentioned.

3. Doesn't change what I stated.

4. Random insertion of "Western liberal imperialism" just cause. Man, folks like you are all over the place. Throw everything and hope something sticks strategy.

1. The Korean model looks like your typical female K-pop star or K-drama actress, i.e. South Korean beauty standard.

2. It's talking about a boom in Western Gen Z girls trying to imitate Korean female beauty standards. FYI, K-pop girl groups like Twice and Blackpink routinely score number-one hits in the US and UK. So you're straight-up wrong, mate. 😂

3. Your point about Taylor Swift means nothing. I specifically said young Western girls, i.e. Gen Z. You're clearly very out-of-touch with Gen Z.

4. When you try to force Western liberal values onto non-Western cultures, that's Western liberal imperialism. It's not rocket science, bruv. 😂

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@Jag85 said:

1. The Korean model looks like your typical female K-pop star or K-drama actress, i.e. South Korean beauty standard.

2. It's talking about a boom in Western Gen Z girls trying to imitate Korean female beauty standards. And FYI, K-pop girl groups like Twice and Blackpink routinely score number-one hits in the US and UK. So you're straight-up wrong, mate. 😂

3. Your point about Taylor Swift means nothing. I specifically said young Western girls, i.e. Gen Z. You're clearly very out-of-touch with Gen Z.

4. When you try to force Western liberal values onto non-Western cultures, that's Western liberal imperialism. It's not rocket science, bruv. 😂

1. But is not. They did not model her after the typical Kpop but after an enhanced version of the model. Kpop stars are skinny, boobless and assless. Even reference chick is lacking in the ass department but you are here trying argue that "Eve looks like a typical K-pop singer."😂 Face? Yes!

2. Don't argue with me about the link you provided. It is literally about make-up line and skincare. Maybe you should vet your links instead of desperately posting the first thing in your google search. Remember when I told you girls are more into Korean boybands? Your link "Many Korean celebrities and pop stars, including the seven-member boy band BTS, are known for their signature looks." Note BTS no mentioning of your Twice and Blackpoint.🤭

3. Taylor Swift may mean nothing for you but she is the most popular female singer in the world and non of your Kpop female groups are in the same league. I am just giving you scope of your Kpop groups relative to a individual person.😊

4. Again, who is forcing western liberal values? Repeating the same thing doesn't make it true. Do you even know what the meaning of force is?

The bottom line is that Eve is hyper-sexualized. She is not design to appeal to young females. She is not model after typical Kpop, Korean, Japanese or whatever imaginary standards that you invented. She is not typical proportions. She is literally design to be sexy akin to a virtual sex doll. That is it. There is no need to spin this. Her design is not accidental. It is intentional. No one is saying you can't like it but don't pretend it is something it is not. Claim and own your perversion. Don't mask is it with bullshit.

This game is simply pushing an agenda that you all like. It is pandering to specific gamers. It doesn't care about lore. It doesn't care about accuracy. It doesn't care whether the character in question makes sense in the world, after all Eve is the typical female militant or mercenary right?😂 Her character's visual design is forced. All the things you all cry about when the tables are turned for the minority of games, is "suddenly" ignored in this game. I look forward to all you anti-"woke" folks crying about everything I just listed when a game commits all these "crimes against humanity
.🤭

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#110  Edited By Pedro
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@Litchie said:
@uninspiredcup said:

Completely disagree with people who say "it doesn't matter" though, it's a visual medium.

Yeah, of course it matters somewhat. Everyone has preferences. It's just that the game being fun is a million times more important, making how the character looks silly to care about in comparison. Then we have people who really, really care about how characters look, and that's just annoying. I simply don't care that a game like Stellar Blade went with sexy jiggly female. I only care in that I do not mind, I like jiggly females. Would they have gone with something ugly, I wouldn't mind either. Wario is fun. Returnal grandma looks all right. I don't think I'd enjoy Returnal any more or less with a sexy supermodel protag, aka "I don't care".

I've been looking at that RE boardgame too, I want it. No idea how you play it, but it looks cool. Think I'll download it for Tabletop Simulator on Steam and try it out.

The real "problem" is when any popular upcoming game sports a female that doesn't meet these broken men jerk off standards, gaming is doom, society is doom, men are being attacked, agenda is being pushed yada yada. The majority of gamers don't put that level of investment in the way characters look in a game but this loud minority do and frequently.

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Never noticed this part. Getting angry at people having fun.

Person IRL would probably shit their pantaloons if they weren't behind a keyboard no doubt. In that Restera bubble where they are egged on with no opposition to their toxicity.

Whereas on this on terrible dead forum if someone has a bad take they typically get taken to task. Pwopa merica' freedoms.

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@Pedro said:
@Jag85 said:

1. The Korean model looks like your typical female K-pop star or K-drama actress, i.e. South Korean beauty standard.

2. It's talking about a boom in Western Gen Z girls trying to imitate Korean female beauty standards. And FYI, K-pop girl groups like Twice and Blackpink routinely score number-one hits in the US and UK. So you're straight-up wrong, mate. 😂

3. Your point about Taylor Swift means nothing. I specifically said young Western girls, i.e. Gen Z. You're clearly very out-of-touch with Gen Z.

4. When you try to force Western liberal values onto non-Western cultures, that's Western liberal imperialism. It's not rocket science, bruv. 😂

1. But is not. They did not model her after the typical Kpop but after an enhanced version of the model. Kpop stars are skinny, boobless and assless. Even reference chick is lacking in the ass department but you are here trying argue that "Eve looks like a typical K-pop singer."😂 Face? Yes!

2. Don't argue with me about the link you provided. It is literally about make-up line and skincare. Maybe you should vet your links instead of desperately posting the first thing in your google search. Remember when I told you girls are more into Korean boybands? Your link "Many Korean celebrities and pop stars, including the seven-member boy band BTS, are known for their signature looks." Note BTS no mentioning of your Twice and Blackpoint.🤭

3. Taylor Swift may mean nothing for you but she is the most popular female singer in the world and non of your Kpop female groups are in the same league. I am just giving you scope of your Kpop groups relative to a individual person.😊

4. Again, who is forcing western liberal values? Repeating the same thing doesn't make it true. Do you even know what the meaning of force is?

The bottom line is that Eve is hyper-sexualized. She is not design to appeal to young females. She is not model after typical Kpop, Korean, Japanese or whatever imaginary standards that you invented. She is not typical proportions. She is literally design to be sexy akin to a virtual sex doll. That is it. There is no need to spin this. Her design is not accidental. It is intentional. No one is saying you can't like it but don't pretend it is something it is not. Claim and own your perversion. Don't mask is it with bullshit.

This game is simply pushing an agenda that you all like. It is pandering to specific gamers. It doesn't care about lore. It doesn't care about accuracy. It doesn't care whether the character in question makes sense in the world, after all Eve is the typical female militant or mercenary right?😂 Her character's visual design is forced. All the things you all cry about when the tables are turned for the minority of games, is "suddenly" ignored in this game. I look forward to all you anti-"woke" folks crying about everything I just listed when a game commits all these "crimes against humanity

1. Eve looks like a typical Korean female celebrity, with a cute face, slender body and average breasts. The only thing that stands out is her butt... I'm not much of an ass guy, but seeing you get so triggered over a butt is hilarious. 😂

2. Are you blind? The first picture in the article is literally a Korean woman. Western Gen Z girls are obviously buying K-beauty products to look like Korean female celebrities, not male celebrities. Please use some common sense, since you clearly lack it.

3. Taylor Swift isn't even the most popular female singer in the West, let alone the world. There are female black and Latina singers who are more popular than her even in the West, yet for some reason you decided to name a blonde white woman to belittle East Asian women... Yeah, thanks for proving my point about Western liberal racism. 😂

4. The West has a long history of forcing liberal values on other nations through violence. But that's a whole other discussion beyond the scope of this topic.

5. No, I don't find Eve to be sexually attractive. Like I said, I'm not much of an ass guy. Besides, she was designed by a Korean female artist, who happens to be the wife of the lead game designer. If you think Eve is a "hyper-sexualized sex doll"... then that says more about your own perverse mind than it does about the character. You're the one "sexualizing" her, ironically. As for the rest of your verbal diarrhea, I already debunked it in another thread:

@Jag85 said:

Reality check for Western developers: Most female audiences prefer attractive female characters! *GASP*

Most female audiences want their characters to look attractive just as most male audiences do. Attractive female characters are far more likely to pull in female audiences than unattractive female characters.

@Jag85 said:

The games that draw the largest female audiences typically have attractive or cute characters. Certain liberals are trying to push this idea that unattractive female protagonists is "catering" to female audiences, yet that's not what most female audiences actually want. They're catering to a specific loud minority, not the majority of female gamers. If anything, they're alienating the majority of female gamers who'd much rather play games with attractive or cute characters.

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@Jag85 said:

1. Eve looks like a typical Korean female celebrity, with a cute face, slender body and average breasts. The only thing that stands out is her butt... I'm not much of an ass guy, but seeing you get so triggered over a butt is hilarious. 😂

2. Are you blind? The first picture in the article is literally a Korean woman. Western Gen Z girls are obviously buying K-beauty products to look like Korean female celebrities, not male celebrities. Please use some common sense, since you clearly lack it.

3. Taylor Swift isn't even the most popular female singer in the West, let alone the world. There are female black and Latina singers who are more popular than her even in the West, yet for some reason you decided to name a blonde white woman to belittle East Asian women... Yeah, thanks for proving my point about Western liberal racism. 😂

4. The West has a long history of forcing liberal values on other nations through violence. But that's a whole other discussion beyond the scope of this topic.

5. Personally, I don't find Eve to be that sexually attractive (like I said, I'm not an ass guy). She was also designed by a Korean female artist, who happens to be the wife of the lead game designer. If you think Eve is a "hyper-sexualized sex doll"... then that says more about your own perverse mind than it does about the character. You're the one "sexualizing" her. As for the rest of your verbal diarrhea, I already debunked it in another thread:

1. No, she is not the typical Kpop chick. You can repeated as often as you like it wouldn't change the facts. I am triggered because I pointed out that Eve in this game has more ass and breast than the flat ass and flat chested Kpop stars?😂 You went from typical to model to not as typical but typical.😏

2. Read the article. Reading is good. You didn't read thus the reason you are grasping at straws at the moment.🤭

3. Name a female singer that is more popular than Taylor Swift right now. I will wait.😂 I name the most popular female artist and for some reason you think I chose her because she is white and blonde, not because she is the most popular. 😂 You change this shit in to race instead of gender. Interesting strategy,

4. If you don't want to discuss it then don't bring it up. 🤷🏽‍♂️

5. Now you are trying to argue she isn't sexualized...

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Controversial then: School shooting scene in Postal, No Russians mission in CoD

Controversial now: an attractive woman

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@Pedro said:

1. No, she is not the typical Kpop chick. You can repeated as often as you like it wouldn't change the facts. I am triggered because I pointed out that Eve in this game has more ass and breast than the flat ass and flat chested Kpop stars?😂 You went from typical to model to not as typical but typical.😏

2. Read the article. Reading is good. You didn't read thus the reason you are grasping at straws at the moment.🤭

3. Name a female singer that is more popular than Taylor Swift right now. I will wait.😂 I name the most popular female artist and for some reason you think I chose her because she is white and blonde, not because she is the most popular. 😂 You change this shit in to race instead of gender. Interesting strategy,

4. If you don't want to discuss it then don't bring it up. 🤷🏽‍♂️

5. Now you are trying to argue she isn't sexualized...

1. What breasts? Eve's breasts are average at best. 😂 The only thing large is her butt. If you're getting so horny over her arse, then you clearly have some serious mental issues... Besides the arse, everything else about Eve is like a typical Korean female celeb.

2. Like I said, you're clearly very out-of-touch with Gen Z. K-beauty products are a $92 billion industry. K-pop girl groups routinely top the US and UK charts, and K-dramas routinely top the Netflix charts. Millions of Western Gen Z girls look up to Korean female celebs and want to look like them.

3. The best-selling female singers are Madonna, Rihanna, Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston. The most-followed female singers on Instagram are Selena Gomez, Ariana Grande and Beyonce. You could've named any of these female singers, yet you named the blonde white one. That's very sus. 😏

4. In the video game industry, an example would be Sony of America trying force its liberal values on Japanese developers, dictating to them what they are and aren't allowed to sell in their own country. That's textbook liberal imperialism.

5. I know it might be hard to believe that not everyone is a dirty-minded pervert like you... But no, I don't find Eve to be that sexually attractive. I'm not an ass guy, so I don't get horny at the sight of arse like you do. You're the one sexualizing her for having a big butt.

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#116  Edited By Jag85
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@luxuryheart said:

Beyonce is also super popular, and so is Rihanna. Both of them are attractive, and women love them. Euphoria is a popular show as well, and the main audience is women. The games that I play, where I've been spamming attractive women from those games, were made by Liberal devs and have a Liberal audience. There's a weird stereotype going around that Liberals dislike sex and porn, and that were prudes. Far from it!

Ironically, in the games I play, the biggest prudes are the more conservative men. Though they're hypocritical with it. They don't like the pansexual man being shirtless and having a skin that emphasizes his butt and thighs. When a woman has a skimpy skin, then they don't care. They'll buy the skin and talk about how hot she is. A pansexual man gets a skimpy skin, and they talk about how the game isn't a porn game. It's actually bizarre.

A lot of them also hate the idea of a hot elf woman being a lesbian, so they keep trying to ship her with other men. Now, these same men will get annoyed when people headcanon a guy as gay/bi. "Stop changing people's sexuality!" until it's a hot lesbian. Then that hot lesbian is bi because, and a guy actually said this disgusting shit, "her ass is too good to only belong to women."

True. Traditionally, liberals were pro-sexualization and conservatives were anti-sexualization. But at some point a decade ago, the roles flipped. Nowadays you see so many "liberals" being anti-sexualization and many "conservatives" being pro-sexualization. It's almost like as if they're both just knee-jerk reactionaries feeding off each other, just doing the opposite of whatever the other camp does. It's pure tribalism.

As for LGBT stuff, I rarely see homophobia directed towards lesbians. Most of the homophobia is usually directed towards gay men. More often than not, many of the same people who feel a homophobic reaction towards gay men get turned on by lesbians.

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@Litchie said:
@luxuryheart said:

So much for all of the bolded. In a game that I play, most people consider these champions to be the hottest:

Now granted, the purple elf girl is number 6 for best looking in my opinion, and the woman with the white hair isn't ugly. I just don't find them to be the best looking, or even top 5.

People find Lady Dimistrecu to be hot, and respectfully...

No... And I get the appeal, but no.

To me, Dimitrescu is hot, while the other two above are abominations.

Respectfully disagree. Though I remember someone pointing out, perhaps in this very thread actually, that Dimitrescu is considered hot, even though she's everything that gamers claim to find unattractive. She's old and overweight, but she's somehow considered hot by most gamers.

The two above that I posted are in their 20s, they're skinny with busty hourglass figures, and have pretty faces, yet you consider them to he abominations.

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@Jag85 said:
@luxuryheart said:

Beyonce is also super popular, and so is Rihanna. Both of them are attractive, and women love them. Euphoria is a popular show as well, and the main audience is women. The games that I play, where I've been spamming attractive women from those games, were made by Liberal devs and have a Liberal audience. There's a weird stereotype going around that Liberals dislike sex and porn, and that were prudes. Far from it!

Ironically, in the games I play, the biggest prudes are the more conservative men. Though they're hypocritical with it. They don't like the pansexual man being shirtless and having a skin that emphasizes his butt and thighs. When a woman has a skimpy skin, then they don't care. They'll buy the skin and talk about how hot she is. A pansexual man gets a skimpy skin, and they talk about how the game isn't a porn game. It's actually bizarre.

A lot of them also hate the idea of a hot elf woman being a lesbian, so they keep trying to ship her with other men. Now, these same men will get annoyed when people headcanon a guy as gay/bi. "Stop changing people's sexuality!" until it's a hot lesbian. Then that hot lesbian is bi because, and a guy actually said this disgusting shit, "her ass is too good to only belong to women."

1. True. Traditionally, liberals were pro-sexualization and conservatives were anti-sexualization. But at some point a decade ago, the roles flipped. Nowadays you see so many "liberals" being anti-sexualization and many "conservatives" being pro-sexualization. It's almost like as if they're both just knee-jerk reactionaries feeding off each other, just doing the opposite of whatever the other camp does. It's pure tribalism.

As for LGBT stuff, I rarely see homophobia directed towards lesbians. Most of the homophobia is usually directed towards gay men. More often than not, many of the same people who feel a homophobic reaction towards gay men get turned on by lesbians.

1. There are two things. First, there's Horseshoe Theory:

That's where hypocrisy comes in. Both extremes want to limit the other. The extreme left wants less fanservice and the extreme right wants less minorities.

Another thing is that it's all relative. What's too much fanservice for one person, might not be that bad to another. My sister is a great example, as far as the original Ivy skins in Soul Caliber 2.

She thought that this was too much. I personally didn't mind it. I thought it was sexy:

Yet, she also thought that this was too covered up, and she didn't find it sexy ENOUGH. I agreed with her:

She found this skin perfect. She thought it was cute, and she liked how sexy it was. Though she liked how it wasn't as fanservicey as the first one. I also liked this skin as well:

I personally don't mind fanservice, so long as it isn't breaking the immersion. I disliked a certain manga panel, because a girl was crying as her mother's soul was going away. As she hugged her mother's dying soul, it showed her bare ass. I couldn't even appreciate the emotional moment, because all I saw was ass. And I dislike extremely bad proportions, such as this:

I find the one on he right to be trashy looking. And I'm someone who doesn't mind fanservice, but that is just bad.

2. I'd say the lesbophobia from straight men is more subtle. Such as pairing them with other men, or saying that they look too hot to ONLY date women. Or my "favorite" one, "you just haven't found the right guy!" Though I do agree that the homophobia towards men, from straight men, is more violent. And I mean the non-sexual type of violence.

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Sometimes i wonder if LuxuryHeart works for Kutaku.

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1. What breasts? Eve's breasts are average at best. 😂 The only thing large is her butt. If you're getting so horny over her arse, then you clearly have some serious mental issues... Besides the arse, everything else about Eve is like a typical Korean female celeb.

2. Like I said, you're clearly very out-of-touch with Gen Z. K-beauty products are a $92 billion industry. K-pop girl groups routinely top the US and UK charts, and K-dramas routinely top the Netflix charts. Millions of Western Gen Z girls look up to Korean female celebs and want to look like them.

3. The best-selling female singers are Madonna, Rihanna, Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston. The most-followed female singers on Instagram are Selena Gomez, Ariana Grande and Beyonce. You could've named any of these female singers, yet you named the blonde white one. That's very sus. 😏

4. In the video game industry, an example would be Sony of America trying force its liberal values on Japanese developers, dictating to them what they are and aren't allowed to sell in their own country. That's textbook liberal imperialism.

5. I know it might be hard to believe that not everyone is a dirty-minded pervert like you... But no, I don't find Eve to be that sexually attractive. I'm not an ass guy, so I don't get horny at the sight of arse like you do. You're the one sexualizing her for having a big butt.

1. Average?🤭

So average that they needed to enhance her reference model. You went from accusing me to being triggered to being horny to being mentally ill because of stating the fact that Eve is not your typical Kpop star. 😂

2. Your claim western females idiolize female Kpop artist but linked to an article about a booming beauty products and skincare as proof and like I said, western girls fawn after the male Kpop artists that even your link validates the claim. However, you are damage controlling the fact you didn't read your sources before sourcing them. 🤭

3. Moving the goalpost for my point? That is interesting but not wise strategy. I explicitly stated "Name a female singer that is more popular than Taylor Swift right now." and in your desperation, you deflect to sales and a dead female artist. 😂 Then for some reason became hyper focused on Taylor Swift being blonde but then you reference Madonna.🤭 You are all over the place. Now, feel free to share who is more popular than Taylor Swift.

4. No evidence, don't care. Best you proof read if you are going to provide evidence and you still would be off from your nonsensical claim of "Western Liberal Imperialism"😂

5. Still struggling with the fact that Eve is sexualized. A fact that no-one is challenging, questioning until you decided to take such a demonstrably silly stance.

The bottom line is that Eve is hyper-sexualized. She is not design to appeal to young females. She is not model after typical Kpop, Korean, Japanese or whatever imaginary standards that you invented. She is not typical proportions. She is literally design to be sexy akin to a virtual sex doll. That is it. There is no need to spin this. Her design is not accidental. It is intentional. No one is saying you can't like it but don't pretend it is something it is not. Claim and own your perversion. Don't mask is it with bullshit.

This game is simply pushing an agenda that you all like. It is pandering to specific gamers. It doesn't care about lore. It doesn't care about accuracy. It doesn't care whether the character in question makes sense in the world, after all Eve is the typical female militant or mercenary right?😂 Her character's visual design is forced. All the things you all cry about when the tables are turned for the minority of games, is "suddenly" ignored in this game. I look forward to all you anti-"woke" folks crying about everything I just listed when a game commits all these "crimes against humanity

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@Pedro said:

So average that they needed to enhance her reference model. You went from accusing me to being triggered to being horny to being mentally ill because of stating the fact that Eve is not your typical Kpop star.

2. Your claim western females idiolize female Kpop artist but linked to an article about a booming beauty products and skincare as proof and like I said, western girls fawn after the male Kpop artists that even your link validates the claim. However, you are damage controlling the fact you didn't read your sources before sourcing them.

3. Moving the goalpost for my point? That is interesting but not wise strategy. I explicitly stated "Name a female singer that is more popular than Taylor Swift right now." and in your desperation, you deflect to sales and a dead female artist. Then for some reason became hyper focused on Taylor Swift being blonde but then you reference Madonna. You are all over the place. Now, feel free to share who is more popular than Taylor Swift.

4. No evidence, don't care. Best you proof read if you are going to provide evidence and you still would be off from your nonsensical claim of "Western Liberal Imperialism"

5. Still struggling with the fact that Eve is sexualized. A fact that no-one is challenging, questioning until you decided to take such a demonstrably silly stance.

1. How are those large breasts? Those are average to medium size breasts. Large breasts would be like the Dead or Alive girls, not Eve. I'll give you the big butt not being like a typical K-pop star, but everything else about her would be in-line with typical K-pop female beauty standards.

2. Can you even read? I repeat: "K-pop girl groups like Twice and Blackpink routinely score number-one hits in the US and UK." Yet you're still in denial about the fact that female K-pop artists have a ton of Gen Z female fans in the West. You sound like a racist old Boomer who can't handle the fact that Gen Z are into foreign stuff... The horseshoe theory was right: when you go too far left, you become far right.

3. Are you blind? "The best-selling female singers are Madonna, Rihanna, Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston. The most-followed female singers on Instagram are Selena Gomez, Ariana Grande and Beyonce." Yet your racist old Boomer ass can't handle the fact that your blonde white queen Taylor isn't the biggest female singer. 😂 Thanks for proving my point about liberal racism.

4. If you're using liberal talking points to attack another culture, then yes, that's a form of liberal imperialism. It's not rocket science.

5. So I'm not allowed to have preferences? I repeat: I do not find Eve to be that sexually attractive because I'm not a fan of big butts. I've said it before in other threads that I'm not into big butts. It's just not my thing, so I do not view her as a "sex doll" whatsoever. If you're so horny that her big butt makes you view her as "sex doll" instead of a kickass female protagonist, then you're the sick deranged pervert here.

Besides, how is this...

@Pedro said:

...any different to this?

OMG, look at that ass! This is so hyper-sexualized! Black Widow is a sex doll! 😂

I look forward to all you anti-"woke" folks crying about everything I just listed when a game commits all these "crimes against humanity

If anything, I'd consider myself fairly "woke" in the traditional sense, although the anti-woke crowd have twisted that word into something weird in recent years. You're basically a caricature of the "woke" stereotype that the anti-woke crowd have about woke people. Nothing about this controversy is a "crime against humanity"... 😂 What an insult to people suffering real crimes against humanity. First-world problems in a nutshell.

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@luxuryheart: Old? She looks like she's in her 30s. Overweight? Wouldn't say that either. Aside from being large, as in having bigger bones, wouldn't call her fat.

The other ones look like generic plastic dolls. They have that mobile game style, and it annoys me.

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@luxuryheart said:

1. There are two things. First, there's Horseshoe Theory:

That's where hypocrisy comes in. Both extremes want to limit the other. The extreme left wants less fanservice and the extreme right wants less minorities.

Another thing is that it's all relative. What's too much fanservice for one person, might not be that bad to another. My sister is a great example, as far as the original Ivy skins in Soul Caliber 2.

She thought that this was too much. I personally didn't mind it. I thought it was sexy:

Yet, she also thought that this was too covered up, and she didn't find it sexy ENOUGH. I agreed with her:

She found this skin perfect. She thought it was cute, and she liked how sexy it was. Though she liked how it wasn't as fanservicey as the first one. I also liked this skin as well:

I personally don't mind fanservice, so long as it isn't breaking the immersion. I disliked a certain manga panel, because a girl was crying as her mother's soul was going away. As she hugged her mother's dying soul, it showed her bare ass. I couldn't even appreciate the emotional moment, because all I saw was ass. And I dislike extremely bad proportions, such as this:

I find the one on he right to be trashy looking. And I'm someone who doesn't mind fanservice, but that is just bad.

2. I'd say the lesbophobia from straight men is more subtle. Such as pairing them with other men, or saying that they look too hot to ONLY date women. Or my "favorite" one, "you just haven't found the right guy!" Though I do agree that the homophobia towards men, from straight men, is more violent. And I mean the non-sexual type of violence.

1. I've stopped subscribing to these "left" and "right" labels years ago. All it does is lead to blind tribalism where people will just blindly follow whatever their own camp says and have a knee-jerk reaction to anything from the opposing camp. I think it's far more practical to focus on single-issue causes, instead of just lumping all these different causes together under broad "left" and "right" umbrellas.

Imma have to take your sister's side here... The first Ivy looks trashy and the second looks androgynous, but the third Ivy looks classy and stylish.

2. That's kind of what I mean. Homophobia towards gay men is very direct and often violent, whereas homophobia towards lesbians is very subtle to the point you barely notice it unless you really pay attention.

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Jesus ****. Nobody ever talks about the game's combat system, story, boss battles or anything. Its 100% related to the chick's body and how everything is woke or anti woke. This dev is farming sooooo much publicity holy shit.

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@hardwenzen: you love digital foundry, check this out

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@hardwenzen: you love digital foundry, check this out

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Already seen it, and played the demo as you already know. The game ran well and looks sharp on balanced mode. That's the only positive it had. Graphically, DF must smoking so high quality grass to say that it looks good. But i've taken a bunch of screenshots, so intend to expose the game if i see people calling this thing as a good looking title.

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Western woman are mediocre.

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@hardwenzen said:
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Her Instagram:

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Ironically, I think the real-life "Eve" is hotter than the in-game Eve.

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@Jag85 said:
@hardwenzen said:
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Her Instagram:

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Ironically, I think the real-life "Eve" is hotter than the in-game Eve.

I'll be honest, i don't find her hot at all. I guess my taste in asian woman is too specific.

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@Jag85 said:

1. How are those large breasts? Those are average to medium size breasts. Large breasts would be like the Dead or Alive girls, not Eve. I'll give you the big butt not being like a typical K-pop star, but everything else about her would be in-line with typical K-pop female beauty standards.

2. Can you even read? I repeat: "K-pop girl groups like Twice and Blackpink routinely score number-one hits in the US and UK." Yet you're still in denial about the fact that female K-pop artists have a ton of Gen Z female fans in the West. You sound like a racist old Boomer who can't handle the fact that Gen Z are into foreign stuff... The horseshoe theory was right: when you go too far left, you become far right.

3. Are you blind? "The best-selling female singers are Madonna, Rihanna, Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston. The most-followed female singers on Instagram are Selena Gomez, Ariana Grande and Beyonce." Yet your racist old Boomer ass can't handle the fact that your blonde white queen Taylor isn't the biggest female singer. 😂 Thanks for proving my point about liberal racism.

4. If you're using liberal talking points to attack another culture, then yes, that's a form of liberal imperialism. It's not rocket science.

5. So I'm not allowed to have preferences? I repeat: I do not find Eve to be that sexually attractive because I'm not a fan of big butts. I've said it before in other threads that I'm not into big butts. It's just not my thing, so I do not view her as a "sex doll" whatsoever. If you're so horny that her big butt makes you view her as "sex doll" instead of a kickass female protagonist, then you're the sick deranged pervert here.

Besides, how is this...

...any different to this?

OMG, look at that ass! This is so hyper-sexualized! Black Widow is a sex doll! 😂

I look forward to all you anti-"woke" folks crying about everything I just listed when a game commits all these "crimes against humanity

If anything, I'd consider myself fairly "woke" in the traditional sense, although the anti-woke crowd have twisted that word into something weird in recent years. You're basically a caricature of the "woke" stereotype that the anti-woke crowd have about woke people. Nothing about this controversy is a "crime against humanity"... 😂 What an insult to people suffering real crimes against humanity. First-world problems in a nutshell.

1. When did I say anything about large breasts?🤔 I corrected your demonstrably false assertion that she looks like a typical Kpop female.

2. Reading is not my problem. You stated the Kpop females are idolized by western females and I pointed out that they fawn after the boy bands which is demonstrably true. You link to an article about western females buying Korean make up as evidence. Now I am being accused as racist boomer.😂

3. Very odd. I explicitly stated Taylor Swift is the most popular female artist right now (factual statement), you deflected to best selling, which doesn't detracts from my statement. And because of that I am a racist.😂

4. You don't understand the meaning of the words you are using and I would suggest not using them. That is not literally not rocket science.🙃

5. There was not a single statement that imply or impose anything on preference. I refer to the following "No one is saying you can't like it but don't pretend it is something it is not." Also no one is demanding or requesting you to find Eve sexually attractive. That was never part of the conversation but for some odd reason you believe such a thing. I would also remind you that you can identify someone being sexualized without being sexually attracted to the person. This is a basic human function that most of the population shares.

You are particular focused on the ass more than anything. In all of the context of Eve, I referenced both breast and ass being larger than Kpop females but you keep focusing on ass and for some reason pushing ass fetish on me. What is even more hilarious is that you claim to have a preference for breasts but view anyone who has a preference for ass (despite no one making that claim) as sick, mental, deranged, pervert.😂 The irony is lost on you.

So, in summary, you were corrected on the false narrative you were promoting and took the funniest counter approach

  • seeing you get so triggered over a butt is hilarious.

  • so I don't get horny at the sight of arse like you do

  • I know it might be hard to believe that not everyone is a dirty-minded pervert like you

  • The only thing large is her butt. If you're getting so horny over her arse, then you clearly have some serious mental issues

  • If you're so horny that her big butt makes you view her as "sex doll" instead of a kickass female protagonist, then you're the sick deranged pervert here.

  • Yet your racist old Boomer ass can't handle the fact that your blonde white queen

  • You sound like a racist old Boomer who can't handle the fact that Gen Z are into foreign stuff

Are you done making a fool of yourself or would you like to continue?😊

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ugly blue hair harpies want everyone to look like them so they don't have to feel inferior

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@Pedro:

1. She looks like a typical K-pop female. That's literally the first thing that came to mind when I first saw this character. The only thing large about her design is her hip/ass, like Chun Li. Yet even then, her breasts and butt more-or-less match the Korean model she's based.

2. You can't read. "K-pop girl groups like Twice and Blackpink routinely score number-one hits in the US and UK." They have large armies of Gen Z female fans across the world. Blackpink even have more TikTok followers than Taylor Swift. If you can't accept such basic facts, then you'd have to be either mentally challenged at best or racist at worst.

3. Again, you can't read. "The best-selling female singers are Madonna, Rihanna, Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston. The most-followed female singers on Instagram are Selena Gomez, Ariana Grande and Beyonce." To add, the most-followed female singers on TikTok (mostly Gen Z) are Bella Poarch, Dixie D'Amelio, Loren Gray, Karol G, Billie Eilish and Blackpink (K-pop). Taylor doesn't make the top four in sales, the top three on Instagram, or the top ten on TikTok. She's not the most popular female singer by any metric.

4. If "liberal imperialism" is too hard for you to grasp, then you can look at it in terms of the horseshoe theory: If you go too far left, you end up far right. The fact that you're acting like an old out-of-touch Boomer who refuses to acknowledge the popularity of K-pop female artists among Gen Z only proves my point.

5. The only person in this thread "sexualizing" Eve is you. You're the one reducing her to a "sex doll" even though she's clearly based on a real-life Korean model. If you view a woman with large breasts or butt as a "sex doll" then that says more about your own perverse mind than it does about the woman you're degrading.

In summary, you've made a fool of yourself by constantly repeating lies that were so easily debunked. Even after being debunked repeatedly, you still repeat the same lies like a broken record. And while you're doing it, you're very aggressive and insulting, but then play the victim when you get insulted back... You can dish it out but then cry when met with the same energy. 😂 I'm done with you. Feel free to have the last word.

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@hardwenzen said:
@Jag85 said:
@hardwenzen said:
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Her Instagram:

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Ironically, I think the real-life "Eve" is hotter than the in-game Eve.

I'll be honest, i don't find her hot at all. I guess my taste in asian woman is too specific.

Fair enough. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. On the flip side, I don't really find the Eve game character to be that hot, so the controversy was a bit baffling at first.

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@gifford38 said:
@mesome713 said:

@gifford38: Them anti woke snowflakes hate on all things. Them clowns have no standards. They are primitive stoneage deplorables who can't stand any thing that goes against their status quo.

what are you talking about? the woke are the ones pushing this agenda stuff. replacing white characters with black characters or male characters with female characters. even black people don't like it example little mermaid.

primitive stone age? why because we like the old characters we grown up with?

because we don;t want every movie have a gay female lead?

even new ghostbusters.

You'd have a point if Ghostbusters was a bad film, but it wasn't. Could have had a stronger ending, but was still entertaining in its own right. Seen it twice now.

The whole controversy was "oh noes... women". Don't know why people are insecure about that. Not even a feminist thing, it didn't bother me.

As for the little mermaid, it's hilarious that most of those complaining were 30/40 something year old right wing men. It's kinda creepy tbh.

It wasn't even the "woke" crowd, normal people were like "wasn't this aimed at 8 year old girls, why would I care?". Talk about "looking for things to be mad about". It's all projection.

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Jesus ****. Nobody ever talks about the game's combat system, story, boss battles or anything. Its 100% related to the chick's body and how everything is woke or anti woke. This dev is farming sooooo much publicity holy shit.

That's what I was wondering. After people finish their wank, is there a good game under there somewhere?

The reason I'm not into this, isn't any woke agenda, it's that all these adult gamers giving it "PHOARRRR, YEAH I'LL HAVE SOME OF THAT" over her, are going to be sharing the EXACT same boat with 14 year old male gamers. It's weird and kinda sad imo.

And so far, this is all this game has been about. The initial thing that struck me about this game was how unimpressive the environmental graphics looked. Like the developer had spent 90% of their time on this women.

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That IGN France article really highlights to me outside of this, how smug and all knowing some game journos think they are, when in reality, they are complete and utter dunces. Not all of them, good ones, but def that one.

I don't even care about the game and even I knew they advertised a model for it from skimming these forums.

Seriously, what a fucking idiot.

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So no.😂

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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@gifford38 said:
@mesome713 said:

@gifford38: Them anti woke snowflakes hate on all things. Them clowns have no standards. They are primitive stoneage deplorables who can't stand any thing that goes against their status quo.

what are you talking about? the woke are the ones pushing this agenda stuff. replacing white characters with black characters or male characters with female characters. even black people don't like it example little mermaid.

primitive stone age? why because we like the old characters we grown up with?

because we don;t want every movie have a gay female lead?

even new ghostbusters.

You'd have a point if Ghostbusters was a bad film, but it wasn't. Could have had a stronger ending, but was still entertaining in its own right. Seen it twice now.

The whole controversy was "oh noes... women". Don't know why people are insecure about that. Not even a feminist thing, it didn't bother me.

As for the little mermaid, it's hilarious that most of those complaining were 30/40 something year old right wing men. It's kinda creepy tbh.

It wasn't even the "woke" crowd, normal people were like "wasn't this aimed at 8 year old girls, why would I care?". Talk about "looking for things to be mad about". It's all projection.

what instead of going out ghostbusting you watch her play chess with a ghost girl the whole film. they caught one ghost in the beginning. the old ghostbusters had a romantic relationship but still caught ghost after ghost.

it was a boring movie. they did not use the old characters much.

the whole movie the two ghost give googly eyes to each other then see the ghost trap fail then googly eyes then ghost trap fails some more. until the end.

all about her and not the team like the last one they made.

no little mermaid most of the people complaining was black utubers. black americans don't want our characters they want them to create new black characters. lmao right wing creeps. I guess right wing is most population because these movies flop every were. not just in the right wing creeps.

them swopping to push agenda is the wrong way to do it. no reason for it.

imagine they changes a black character to a white character. they be called racist and get backlashed.

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#140  Edited By jaydan  Online
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I remember back in the day when games were realistic.

Like when you kicked a turtle shell and it went flying and took out a line of enemies.

Or like when you picked up unlimited guns that weigh a ton, and you still had all your might to carry it all.

Or like when a banana peel threw you off course.

Or like when a bird in a backpack can carry a bear.

Or like when cars can go flying over skyscrapers with a well-placed ramp.

Or like when skimpy outfits were the most protective armor in the game.

Or like swan diving from impossible heights into a bale of hay will assure a safe landing.

Or like when taking cover can heal bullet wounds within seconds.

Or like when etc.

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#141  Edited By Jag85
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@gifford38 said:
@mesome713 said:

@gifford38: Them anti woke snowflakes hate on all things. Them clowns have no standards. They are primitive stoneage deplorables who can't stand any thing that goes against their status quo.

what are you talking about? the woke are the ones pushing this agenda stuff. replacing white characters with black characters or male characters with female characters. even black people don't like it example little mermaid.

primitive stone age? why because we like the old characters we grown up with?

because we don;t want every movie have a gay female lead?

even new ghostbusters.

You'd have a point if Ghostbusters was a bad film, but it wasn't. Could have had a stronger ending, but was still entertaining in its own right. Seen it twice now.

The whole controversy was "oh noes... women". Don't know why people are insecure about that. Not even a feminist thing, it didn't bother me.

As for the little mermaid, it's hilarious that most of those complaining were 30/40 something year old right wing men. It's kinda creepy tbh.

It wasn't even the "woke" crowd, normal people were like "wasn't this aimed at 8 year old girls, why would I care?". Talk about "looking for things to be mad about". It's all projection.

Haven't seen Ghostbusters, but that's a good point about Little Mermaid. I haven't seen the movie, but it's clearly aimed at little girls, so why should 30-40 year-old dudes even care about that movie? If you're not the target audience, then it's not your concern what little girls are watching, unless you're a parent worried about inappropriate content. The "anti-woke" crowd were throwing a hissy fit over something that doesn't impact them in any way...

However, the reality is that Little Mermaid did flop at the box office. Disney were banking on black audiences to come out in large numbers like they did for Black Panther, yet they didn't for Little Mermaid. The difference is that T'Challa is an original black character, whereas Ariel is an original white character played by a black actress. Most black audiences would much rather go watch an original black character rather than a "black-washed" white character.

I mentioned before the movie came out that they should've just called her a different name instead of Ariel. Maybe it could've been written as a sequel or spin-off with a new black protagonist and maybe have Ariel in a cameo or support role, like what they did with the Spider-Verse movies (the best Spidey movies ever, IMO). That would've generated much more interest from black audiences as well as non-black audiences. That's where Disney really messed up.

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It brings joy to my heart to see all the ugly, rainbow-haired freaks cry and moan over video game characters that are way more attractive than they are. Yes, let's make them all ugly so those weirdos can feel better about themselves.

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#143  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@gifford38 said:

what instead of going out ghostbusting you watch her play chess with a ghost girl the whole film. they caught one ghost in the beginning. the old ghostbusters had a romantic relationship but still caught ghost after ghost.

it was a boring movie. they did not use the old characters much.

the whole movie the two ghost give googly eyes to each other then see the ghost trap fail then googly eyes then ghost trap fails some more. until the end.

all about her and not the team like the last one they made.

no little mermaid most of the people complaining was black utubers. black americans don't want our characters they want them to create new black characters. lmao right wing creeps. I guess right wing is most population because these movies flop every were. not just in the right wing creeps.

them swopping to push agenda is the wrong way to do it. no reason for it.

imagine they changes a black character to a white character. they be called racist and get backlashed.

I'm glad the old character were hardly in it. They're old, then the movie becomes a homage and becomes built around them, and becomes kind of corny. Also, now everything has a multiverse it's not necessary. I didn't go in with any expectations, so I ended up liking it.

As for The Little Mermaid, I saw A LOT of backlash and the majority of that was not from black youtubers. I saw SO many "how dare they" comments from white people more than black people. They. Were. MAD.

"these movies" because 8 year old girls really care about this stuff?

You need to be specific. If you mean Star Wars for example, it's because they regurgitated the original storylines, made them worse, and threw out everything that was previously established. Although Rogue One is one of the best Star Wars films I've seen.

Most of the time Disney films don't do well is because they aren't as good as they could have been, like Eternals.

The other problem is these days, everything the right wingers don't like they claim wokism is the reason. When half the time, it's just not a good product. Then they start blaming wokism for things that is actually from their side. For example Batman being shot in Suicide Squad, when the influence for this kind of crap is more likely coming from The Boyz, which is the least woke thing there is. Like when they blamed wokism for Superman getting SA'd. Nah, that edgy crap is from the other side. When you show Marvel and DC, The Boyz and Invicible is popular, they're going to incorperate more of that stuff.

Wokism in comics would be the golden age or something, when there's always a happy ending and a lesson for the kids.

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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:

Jesus ****. Nobody ever talks about the game's combat system, story, boss battles or anything. Its 100% related to the chick's body and how everything is woke or anti woke. This dev is farming sooooo much publicity holy shit.

That's what I was wondering. After people finish their wank, is there a good game under there somewhere?

The reason I'm not into this, isn't any woke agenda, it's that all these adult gamers giving it "PHOARRRR, YEAH I'LL HAVE SOME OF THAT" over her, are going to be sharing the EXACT same boat with 14 year old male gamers. It's weird and kinda sad imo.

And so far, this is all this game has been about. The initial thing that struck me about this game was how unimpressive the environmental graphics looked. Like the developer had spent 90% of their time on this women.

nope look up more utube videos. they are loving the combat and look of the game.

14 year old male gamers? what ones are you watching?

look up tyrone magnushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvkhdsCVXeY

it's that all these adult gamers giving it "PHOARRRR, YEAH I'LL HAVE SOME OF THAT" over her, are going to be sharing the EXACT same boat with 14 year old male gamers. It's weird and kinda sad imo.

you say adults then say 14 year old male gamers. which is it? 14 does not = adults.

of course 14 year olds are yacking it. that all they do at that age.

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Standards just aren't the same these days. Sexy people are not realistic anymore when more people are getting fat and diabetic. We need to get with the times and make more fat characters that struggle with diabetes and cardiovascular diseases.

We really need to do something about sexy people and those that Simp for sex-appeal. Those people are wrong and deserve to be stuffed on a one-way rocket ship to Mars.

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#146 Miquella
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The West once had it

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@Jag85: It probably was an unwise move by Disney. But the backlash was annoying like these guys were looking for something to be mad about. My thing was, "why, were you excited about it up until this happened?" :-S.

So eager to take ownership, they don't even know the horrific original version of the tale. There's this YouTuber Jon Solo, he does a series of videos called "messed up origins", check it out. They're pretty good.

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@SecretPolice said:

lolol :P

bahaha

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#149 HalcyonScarlet
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@gifford38 said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:

Jesus ****. Nobody ever talks about the game's combat system, story, boss battles or anything. Its 100% related to the chick's body and how everything is woke or anti woke. This dev is farming sooooo much publicity holy shit.

That's what I was wondering. After people finish their wank, is there a good game under there somewhere?

The reason I'm not into this, isn't any woke agenda, it's that all these adult gamers giving it "PHOARRRR, YEAH I'LL HAVE SOME OF THAT" over her, are going to be sharing the EXACT same boat with 14 year old male gamers. It's weird and kinda sad imo.

And so far, this is all this game has been about. The initial thing that struck me about this game was how unimpressive the environmental graphics looked. Like the developer had spent 90% of their time on this women.

nope look up more utube videos. they are loving the combat and look of the game.

14 year old male gamers? what ones are you watching?

look up tyrone magnushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvkhdsCVXeY

it's that all these adult gamers giving it "PHOARRRR, YEAH I'LL HAVE SOME OF THAT" over her, are going to be sharing the EXACT same boat with 14 year old male gamers. It's weird and kinda sad imo.

you say adults then say 14 year old male gamers. which is it? 14 does not = adults.

of course 14 year olds are yacking it. that all they do at that age.

Skim reading isn't useful. Try re-reading properly. :-S

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#150 Pedro
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@HalcyonScarlet said:

Skim reading isn't useful. Try re-reading properly. :-S

That is not going to happen. 😂