Stellar Blade's character looks causing controversy! Which do you prefer?

Standards just aren't the same these days. Sexy people are not realistic anymore when more people are getting fat and diabetic. We need to get with the times and make more fat characters that struggle with diabetes and cardiovascular diseases.

We really need to do something about sexy people and those that Simp for sex-appeal. Those people are wrong and deserve to be stuffed on a one-way rocket ship to Mars.

To add to that realistic sentiment, anyone who shoots someone in the game should serve a murder sentence, because they're fucking murderers! Damn killers.

@Jag85: It probably was an unwise move by Disney. But the backlash was annoying like these guys were looking for something to be mad about. My thing was, "why, were you excited about it up until this happened?" :-S.

So eager to take ownership, they don't even know the horrific original version of the tale. There's this YouTuber Jon Solo, he does a series of videos called "messed up origins", check it out. They're pretty good.

I've always said it the issues with recent Disney movies is not "wokeness" as the anti-woke crowd like to claim, but just bad writing. If the writing is good, then it doesn't matter how "woke" it is. When other studios attempt "woke" movies, they've had far more success. For example, blockbusters like Barbie, Spider-Verse, Dune, etc. Even the Mario movie had some "wokeness" in it (e.g. replacing Peach with Luigi as the damsel in distress). But when Disney tries to make "woke" movies, they flop. The problem is with Disney's writers.

What was so horrific about the original version of the tale? I know a lot of fairy tales were much darker in their original forms. What was interesting about the Disney cartoon is that it infused a lot of Afro-Jamaican culture into the movie, so I've always thought it would be fitting to have a black mermaid. But Disney got lazy by calling her Ariel instead of giving her a new identity of her own.

It's usually because when these woke writer's write, it is focused around what ever pigeon holed identy stuff they threw in it for cheap virtue signal points. It comes across as very lazy. The writing is usually lazy because thier idea was never about good writing or story. It's was about girl ghost busters, or black little mermaid.

The originals weren't focused around some arbitrary identy politics thing.

Even stories where the characters aren't changed for virtue signaling points, like She Hulk, Disney still butchers it, because it was never about a great story or great action, it's about she a woman, girl power, men are so dumb, did we remind you she's a woman? Let's throws something in there about the patriarchy? Oh she a woman btw.

It just sucks lol..

Agreed... And I mean that unironically. I've always found it weird how you can murder random people in GTA and just get a slap on the wrist when caught. I'd quite like to see a game where, if you murder someone and get caught, you get punished with a life sentence, serve a long time in prison, and then eventually come out of prison as an old man.

You believe that characters should make sense in a story?

I think the story shouldnt revolve around identity politics, the story needs to focus on the story and what ever the identity (race, sex, sexual orientation) doesn't need to be brought up repeatedly throughout the story... you can have diverse cast but make it about the badass story, action, or w/e else, if your relying on some weird identity politics message, your lazy and your story gonna suck ass

What is identity politics, and can you give an example of it as you have described?

Who needs a good story as long as we are pushing the "message".

I'm glad the old character were hardly in it. They're old, then the movie becomes a homage and becomes built around them, and becomes kind of corny. Also, now everything has a multiverse it's not necessary. I didn't go in with any expectations, so I ended up liking it.

As for The Little Mermaid, I saw A LOT of backlash and the majority of that was not from black youtubers. I saw SO many "how dare they" comments from white people more than black people. They. Were. MAD.

"these movies" because 8 year old girls really care about this stuff?

You need to be specific. If you mean Star Wars for example, it's because they regurgitated the original storylines, made them worse, and threw out everything that was previously established. Although Rogue One is one of the best Star Wars films I've seen.

1. Most of the time Disney films don't do well is because they aren't as good as they could have been, like Eternals.

2. The other problem is these days, everything the right wingers don't like they claim wokism is the reason. When half the time, it's just not a good product. Then they start blaming wokism for things that is actually from their side. For example Batman being shot in Suicide Squad, when the influence for this kind of crap is more likely coming from The Boyz, which is the least woke thing there is. Like when they blamed wokism for Superman getting SA'd. Nah, that edgy crap is from the other side. When you show Marvel and DC, The Boyz and Invicible is popular, they're going to incorperate more of that stuff.

3. Wokism in comics would be the golden age or something, when there's always a happy ending and a lesson for the kids.

1. I agree. That's because pandering doesn't work, and that's for both ways. As a matter of fact, @gifford38 proves that. In this comment, I told him that Smite has plenty of fanservice skins for people like him. He said he'd NEVER play that game. https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/horizon-forbidden-west-failed-to-crack-the-top-40--33617251/?page=3#js-message-357728117 One could twist his comment to mean that he doesn't want to play BECAUSE of the fanservice, and that the devs putting fanservice in the game actually turns people off. :)

2. It's the other way around as well. I remember when Nintendo Girls Club was a thing. Most women were offended and started talking about Nintendo being a Japanese company, so of course they're sexist. Funny thing is, that idea came from the Nintendo branch in the UK. So feminists blamed Japan for sexism, when it was actually a western European country that was responsible. :/

3. This was made in the 70s, where Lois Lane turned black. It was a comic that talked about a few of the issues that black people face, as far as discrimination goes.

2. It's the other way around as well. I remember when Nintendo Girls Club was a thing. Most women were offended and started talking about Nintendo being a Japanese company, so of course they're sexist. Funny thing is, that idea came from the Nintendo branch in the UK. So feminists blamed Japan for sexism, when it was actually a western European country that was responsible. :/

What GTA VI really needs is a revamped justice system. Call it a Justice Warrior system if you like. One where you walk down the street, and when you hear npc's spouting opinions you don't like, you can then activate the personal intrude system that tracks them to where they work, then you can turn on the activist system and harass them, get them fired, and subsequently re-educate them to the proper ideals of modern society.

Sounds like fun to me. I'd pay about three fiddy.

The character in your example is expressing a real-world issue that females experience. Isn't that the purpose of storytelling? Should specific experiences be censored?

Never said anything about censoring.

Said it's lazy and bad writing that doesn't create an entertaining story.

For me, it's a bit on the nose. Really trying to hammer this message that does nothing for the "entertainment".

But to each thier own. Maybe this is written for people like you.

What about the it that is lazy writing? What would be a better way of delivering the same message?

Both situations are not favorable to women. His mom suffered the brunt of it, not him.

@lundy86_4 said:

Both situations are not favorable to women. His mom suffered the brunt of it, not him.

I'm not sure how to address your take. Neither are favourable to women, granted, but one would be far more scarring to a certain individual.

I cannot comment on what is more scarring because I have not experienced either. One happens over years and the other is a moment in time However, your image is attempting to invalidate the struggles of women and purposely ignored the other struggles the character mentions in the clip immediately after the one being referenced. What is the message you were trying to convey in your image?

You can absolutely draw a conclusion from losing your mum to a beating from your dad, and being catcalled. That's absolutely within reason. The image isn't trying to invalidate the struggles of women. It's literally drawing a disparity between what Walters experienced, and what Banner experienced.

Per the image, the takeaway is fairly clear. It's shit writing.

Again you are purposely ignoring what she stated immediately after. The context of the conversation shown in the clip is how she deals with anger. Instead of taking the conversation in context, you are intentionally leaving out the portions in which she appended to the catcalling. You are being disingenuous by claiming the image is simply to draw disparity because what is the purpose of drawing the disparity that does not attempt to invalidate?

Have you actually watched the show (and the larger MCU), or are you just taking one clip out of context to form an opinion and assuming those that actually watched these shows, taking it out of context?

Nope! Is watching the larger MCU required for context? The clip was provided as a demonstration of politics and agenda being pushed. You are free to clarify which portion I am taking out of context or explain how the clip is taken out of context.

Actually, yes. Watching the MCU to understand the full picture IS important. The entire franchise is a pile of shit writing. Having a message does not change that.

Thank you for admitting you have no idea what you're talking about.

Again you are purposely ignoring what she stated immediately after. The context of the conversation shown in the clip is how she deals with anger. Instead of taking the conversation in context, you are intentionally leaving out the portions in which she appended to the catcalling. You are being disingenuous by claiming the image is simply to draw disparity because what is the purpose of drawing the disparity that does not attempt to invalidate?

So you are unable to explain how the clip is being taken out of context.🤷🏽‍♂️

I watched the episode when it released, and she appends it by stating she does it "infinitely more", which again, we can still draw conclusions. This was a meme posted in jest, but if we want to get into the psychology, i'd argue that being demeaned is drastically less harmful than losing a loved one through violent actions of another loved one.

A disparity can be drawn without invalidating... It's not a black-and-white system where one thing cancels out another. Multiple things can be bad and harmful, and yet still reasonably graded.

Irony, lol. You are the one taking it out of context, and you admit you haven't even watched it. It's okay Pedro, you will be okay.

I cannot comment on the extent of psychological harm on a person's mental state between the two scenarios. I am not qualified to make such a call. Since it is a meme as you indicated, I am not sold on the notion that it is just to demonstrate disparity.

And I asked you to explain how the clip is out of context.🤷🏽‍♂️ Do you even know the context of the discussion?

The context of lazy writing that someone else mentioned?

Do you mean to say the MCU is smartly written based off a single clip to a larger franchise?

What is identity politics, and can you give an example of it as you have described?

What about the it that is lazy writing? What would be a better way of delivering the same message?

@Pedro: I did not bring that up, actually, and the user calls it lazy in the very post you just quoted.

And even You asked about lazy writing before I jumped in:

Right when I jumped in.

You are literally arguing over no base knowledge of the franchise whatsoever.

The knowledge of any franchise is not needed to demonstrate bad writing. The question you have avoided is how is the clip that was provided taken out of context. Are you able to address the question or not?

You literally admitted it yourself: you have not watched the show or the MCU.

You basing your opinion over one clip and running with it without any other knowledge of the franchise is the text book definition of taking it out of context. Lol

So, you cannot explain how I took the clip out of context nor can you explain how the poster of the clip used it out of context. Thanks for the long winded confirmation.🤷🏽‍♂️

"The knowledge of any franchise is not needed to demonstrate bad writing."

@shadyacshuns: if this was resetera 80% of members would have already been banned due to perceived minor offenses or due to politely disagreeing.